While I get your point that it's important to distinguish between what is an actual tier and what's not, t0.5 is just more evidence that we are getting less content overall. They were pretty time consuming quests with an individual item progression reward. Rok'dhelar, Quel'serrar and Benediction/Anathema was the same. Even in WotLK you had Quel'delar.
Now they just cut out legendaries from raiding and attached them to story narrative questlines as handouts, which I'm kind of OK with. But I miss class specific challenges, and I actually really hate Legion legendaries.
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I get that, I do - and it's not what I'm complaining about. The reality is that content provision since the Siege of Orgrimmar has been embarrassingly bad, irrespective of how the data is presented or how it’s skewed toward a certain agenda.
What on earth does this have to do with anything? This is an example of trolling which, in future, I’ll likely just report.
You think you want more content, but you don't
I would love to see more dungeons in the Legion as the expansion moves on. And make these dungeons actually meaningful. I would love to see crafting materials that only drop from certain bosses. World recipes for professions. More daily quests.
Maybe some of these have already been implemented on Legion, or not. Haven't really cared to check. I rather get "surprised" when the expansion comes
Buying a different mount other than your race mount was huge back then. Think it gave a discount on flight paths too.
WoD had huge rep grinds for what? A tabard and a slight recolour of a mount. Oh and a trinket with ilvl 615. Not worth it at all.
Plus you could argue that Blizz had over 10 years to learn how to make a proper reward for reputation vendors. Unlike vanilla.
Reputations were a massive joke in WoD and you know it.
This is the reason why I'm out of WoW. It stopped being fun when they charged more money for less content. But nobody wanted to believe me back then. :P
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You're thinking of tier gear, not tiers of raiding.
Vanilla had MC, BWL and Naxx that awarded tier 1,2 and 3. AQ was a tier of raiding but didn't technically award tier gear since it was referred to as Tier 2.5, having only 5 pieces instead of 8 that was the standard at the time.
TBC had tier 4 (gruul, kara & magtheridon), tier 5 (ssc & tk) and tier 6 (hyjal & bt). Sunwell plateau was added at the end of the expansion and was a fourth tier of raiding but instead of having its own tier gear it added to T6 aswell as a lot of offset gear.
This being said I would consider Highmaul to be its own tier of raiding although it didn't have any tier gear. But since you didn't do HM and BRF in parallell they're two separate tiers of raiding.
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It may looks that I do not acknowledge the problem stated by the OP but I do. I don't say it is not important we got so few raid tiers (well at a personal level, I don't care. I don't raid but I understand it is important for many players). I just say that stating it ad nauseam on MMOC won't fix the problem. It is why I said it is a pointless thread. I do not try to defend Blizzard for this (we can't defend them. The graph is very telling). I just say that it is stating the obvious that everybody knows (probably Blizzard themselves too). it is why I recommend to be more proactive and put up that graph on official forum and unsubscribe as a sign of protest or just accept the reality and move along.
guess ppl didnt get the memo, the item squish was this, not the number change. less tiers means lower numbers.
I agree that dungeons can't be considered a tier of raiding but I disagree with you on HM, AQ and Sunwell. With them dropping totally different item level gear compared to the raids before or after them and in most cases not even being part of the same patch they must be considered their own tier of raiding. You weren't doing AQ as the same time as BWL and Naxx, it was a natural progression between them. You didn't do Sunwell as the same time as BT and Hyjal but you needed the gear from these raids to continue on with Sunwell. When BRF came out you stopped doing HM but you needed the gear from it in order to progress (ignoring catchup mechanics).
Just because a raid doesn't drop tier gear or Blizzard chose to name the tier gear differently doesn't mean it's not its own tier of raiding. If it's part of a linear progression path of raiding and stands on its own it's a raid tier.
But that's the beauty of opinions. You can have yours and I can have mine and neither is really wrong until officially disproven by a statement from Blizzard.
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Yup 4. I have no idea where he got 5 from. You can't really count ZG, ZA and AQ20.