Why is Hillary Clinton so big?

[Deleted]

Because she used to fuck a president.

[Draco-Onis]

Mostly voting Democrat, except for the recent motion with Bernie, has been 100% about "unity" politics and tradition. If you look at the diversity of the ideas in the Republican debates, you'll find that there are fresh ideas even if a lot of the voters really don't understand them. The Left is mostly about seeming genuine about your ideas and principles when its entirely just a strategy of supporting whatever seems like a popular topic, and the best candidate isn't the one who comes in with the best ideas but the one who "chameleon"s the hardest by changing to fit whatever the background of the day is.

What diversity of ideas are you referring to? although they attack each other they all seem to be on the same page on all the issues some just sugarcoat it better than others.

[Deleted]

That's not true most people were never really excited about her candidacy, she was always a candidate you would take if nothing better was on the table. If Elizabeth Warren was running against her not Bernie Sanders she would have lost the nomination. This year is the perfect mix of bad choices on the left and especially the right that could give her the presidency.

You are basing yourself on poll results. The fact that Hillary is nearly 2.5 million voters ahead of Bernie, shows how favored she is.

And Warren wouldn't win against Hillary. Hillary has name recognition and no matter how much dirt they try to bring up that name stands tall.

Just like they known Hillary for the e-mail gate, the benghazi gate, they also remember how good the country was when Bill and Hillary were in the office. The wages of all Americans rose by double digits, the poverty dropped by double digits, the education levels rose by double digits, the crime rate dropped by TRIPLE digits in many states. In other words they know with those two in the office it's very likely the country will end up being better, and her willingness to improve on Obama's record is an additional bonus.

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Mostly voting Democrat, except for the recent motion with Bernie, has been 100% about "unity" politics and tradition. If you look at the diversity of the ideas in the Republican debates, you'll find that there are fresh ideas even if a lot of the voters really don't understand them. The Left is mostly about seeming genuine about your ideas and principles when its entirely just a strategy of supporting whatever seems like a popular topic, and the best candidate isn't the one who comes in with the best ideas but the one who "chameleon"s the hardest by changing to fit whatever the background of the day is.

I think people remember all too well how easy it was for G.W.Bush to ruin the country.

It will be a long time before you see another republican president.

[Draco-Onis]

You are basing yourself on poll results. The fact that Hillary is nearly 2.5 million voters ahead of Bernie, shows how favored she is.

And Warren wouldn't win against Hillary. Hillary has name recognition and no matter how much dirt they try to bring up that name stands tall.

Just like they known Hillary for the e-mail gate, the benghazi gate, they also remember how good the country was when Bill and Hillary were in the office. The wages of all Americans rose by double digits, the poverty dropped by double digits, the education levels rose by double digits, the crime rate dropped by TRIPLE digits in many states. In other words they know with those two in the office it's very likely the country will end up being better, and her willingness to improve on Obama's record is an additional bonus.

Look at voter participation if people were excited about her being the first woman president, you would not be getting those numbers. I know people on the right think democrats love Obama's record most actually feel it is a let down, if the republican party did not go to the insane asylum they could easily win the presidency. Most democrats will go out and vote for Hillary simply because the prospect of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz scares them to death.

[Hiricine]

What diversity of ideas are you referring to? although they attack each other they all seem to be on the same page on all the issues some just sugarcoat it better than others.

Trump-- leave nato, 2 state solution for Israel, build border wall (not all of them are necessarily great ideas), deport all illegal immigrants (several other candidates like Jeb very much supportive of keeping)

Rand Paul-- Close foreign military bases, end mandatory minimums, audit the federal reserve, end drug war.

Two candidates that actually got a decent amount of traction that not only disagree with each other, but disagree with the rest of the Republican candidates more than any individual difference between the Democrat candidates.

[Cybran]

Because she used to fuck a president.

That particular president fucked/raped a lot of women and even has an illegitimate back son. Should they all become presidents? Is the USA a monarchy now?

[tankbug]

Clinton can just sit there, do nothing, or even lie and cheat about everything, and still be a much better president than Trump the Terrible or Cruz the Crusader. She's the best choice, because Bernie can't win.

[Deleted]

That particular president fucked/raped a lot of women

Any evidence?

[noralya]

She's a big guy.

For you.
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[Terridon]

As a Swede, following the US election just a little bit, please explain to me why Hillary Clinton is so big. She strikes me as a liar, two-faced and dishonest, and I rarely read anything positive about her.

Could any Hillary Clinton voter elaborate and enlighten me?

She's a standard politican. Nothing special will happen with her winning.
Trump is pure crazy and Bernie is very European in his ideas, which a lot of Americans think is Communism.

Overall i like Bernies ideas the most, but he should be very hard to negotiate with. Not a man of compromise which you kinda need as president.
Ultimately if you should take your pick between them, Hillary is the safe bet, since it's just a career for her. Nothing else. She don't want to screw it up by being crazy.

[Draco-Onis]

Trump-- leave nato, 2 state solution for Israel, build border wall (not all of them are necessarily great ideas), deport all illegal immigrants (several other candidates like Jeb very much supportive of keeping)

Rand Paul-- Close foreign military bases, end mandatory minimums, audit the federal reserve, end drug war.

Two candidates that actually got a decent amount of traction that not only disagree with each other, but disagree with the rest of the Republican candidates more than any individual difference between the Democrat candidates.

Rand Paul is an echo of Ron Paul the ideas are not really new and everyone knows that neither of them stand a chance of getting the nomination as evidence as the blip on the radar that was his campaign. Trump's anti immigration platform has been the republican motto for many years he just changed fence (several which they have build) to wall.

The only thing different is that some of the leading candidates have taken some of Ron Paul's stances, Ted Cruz with returning to the gold standard and Trump isolationist stance. On the democratic side there was a stark contrast it's just Hillary goes where the polls go, I don't think anyone honestly thinks she is going to go through with any of it considering who her donors are.

[bloodmoth13]

Hillary is scum, there are just enough ignorant americans that still believe int he system and think she can work.

As for trump voters, from my experience they mostly seem like people who are sick of the status quo, us is in decline thanks to all the BS wars that they start, trump is an outsider, even if hes a terrible candidate all you can hope for is some real change in the govt

Meh, US missed their chance with ron paul, i just hope whoever is next doesnt drag us all into WWIII, and trump seems to be the most diplomatic with russia while the rest of the candidates are trying their hardest to show how russophobic they are.

[Hiricine]

Rand Paul is an echo of Ron Paul the ideas are not really new and everyone knows that neither of them stand a chance of getting the nomination as evidence as the blip on the radar that was his campaign. Trump's anti immigration platform has been the republican motto for many years he just changed fence (several which they have build) to wall.

The only thing different is that some of the leading candidates have taken some of Ron Paul's stances, Ted Cruz with returning to the gold standard and Trump isolationist stance. On the democratic side there was a stark contrast it's just Hillary goes where the polls go, I don't think anyone honestly thinks she is going to go through with any of it considering who her donors are.

Well while you do recognize a little bit that the ideas were different, that was the point I was making was that there were, in fact, differing ideas. Even in the early Democrat primaries there basically was no significant difference between candidates, because when your platform is basically to get 51% of people to assume total control of the other 49%, you can't afford to have different ideas.

I think people remember all too well how easy it was for G.W.Bush to ruin the country.

It will be a long time before you see another republican president.

Its fortunate the common thread of Democrats who hate Bush and Republicans who pretend to like him is no longer becoming the national story. Pretty soon we'll be dealing with bigger ideas, like whether or not people want a big centralized government or if people actually enjoy the idea of running their own lives. The Republican demographic is changing, I think in the next two elections we'll see the "Alt-Right" really get some wind under its wings and people will embrace real change.

[Draco-Onis]

Well while you do recognize a little bit that the ideas were different, that was the point I was making was that there were, in fact, differing ideas. Even in the early Democrat primaries there basically was no significant difference between candidates, because when your platform is basically to get 51% of people to assume total control of the other 49%, you can't afford to have different ideas.

I hate to break it to you but that's the platform of all parties, you know they get the hypothetical majority votes and you take control of the direction of the country for the rest of the people.

Its fortunate the common thread of Democrats who hate Bush and Republicans who pretend to like him is no longer becoming the national story. Pretty soon we'll be dealing with bigger ideas, like whether or not people want a big centralized government or if people actually enjoy the idea of running their own lives. The Republican demographic is changing, I think in the next two elections we'll see the "Alt-Right" really get some wind under its wings and people will embrace real change.

Maybe after losing a couple of elections they will turn it around, I honestly think the current republican party does a lot more harm because there is really no balancing act in politics anymore. When the right goes too far right the left pretty much becomes moderate.

[Grummgug]

As a Swede, following the US election just a little bit, please explain to me why Hillary Clinton is so big. She strikes me as a liar, two-faced and dishonest, and I rarely read anything positive about her.

Could any Hillary Clinton voter elaborate and enlighten me?

The people running corporations want the US to switch to socialism because that would help them make competition illegal and empower them even more. She's currently the best candidate to achieve that, although Bernie Sanders would do just as well if he got popular enough. So Hillary is getting massive backing. The corporations are weaving themes of sexism and women's rights into the media all over the place to try to help her win.

The threat to the corporate powers is Donald Trump because he would move away from any potential shift to socialism. The corporations are working overtime to use the media to label Trump an idiot, crazy, and a racist to try to stop him.

Basically, in this world, whenever you see a concerted effort to label a right-wing person a crazy racist, that's probably coming from the corporations trying to assassinate someone's character.

[JohnBrown1917]

Clinton reminds me of our labour party, which is not a compliment.
But atleast the labour party here is doing terrible the polls.


OT,
She has the mainstream and big corps behind her, simple as that.
Follow the money.

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The people running corporations want the US to switch to socialism because that would help them make competition illegal and empower them even more. She's currently the best candidate to achieve that, although Bernie Sanders would do just as well if he got popular enough. So Hillary is getting massive backing. The corporations are weaving themes of sexism and women's rights into the media all over the place to try to help her win.

Are you're trying to be a comedian? Calling Hilary a socialist? I mean, really? What the hell are you smoking?

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Clinton can just sit there, do nothing, or even lie and cheat about everything, and still be a much better president than Trump the Terrible or Cruz the Crusader. She's the best choice, because Bernie can't win.

Clinton is his only direct competition for the democratic candidacy, so that does not make a lot of sense.

[McFuu]

She is the Democratic Party's hopeful for President. Many people vote the way their party wants them to vote because they don't understand democracy.

In reality, her general policies aren't awful, and while 2-faced and conniving, she also seems the kind of person to set a plan in motion and not allow it to fail.

Compared to the the people she is running against she is also not as much a wild-card as they are. It's hard to imagine a Sanders/Trump/Cruz presidency. With her, we have a decent idea on how it all would go (basically 4 more years of the same). People fear change.

[Adam Jensen]

Because Trump and Cruz are worse.

[Hiricine]

I hate to break it to you but that's the platform of all parties, you know they get the hypothetical majority votes and you take control of the direction of the country for the rest of the people.

Maybe after losing a couple of elections they will turn it around, I honestly think the current republican party does a lot more harm because there is really no balancing act in politics anymore. When the right goes too far right the left pretty much becomes moderate.

Not even close to true for the first part, if you advocate for lower tax rates, smaller government, and less regulation, even if you are using 50.0000001% of the vote, you still aren't advocating for telling other people to do or ruling them. Only someone who advocates for a bigger government (or at least, actually creates one despite advocating against it) can be accused of trying to rule others.

The second part I see the logic of, its likely that the Republican party will have to be in ruins for a new "Millennial" generation to take the reins of it and bring it to where its going to be. Theres a reason we're seeing Trump get so much momentum and its because people hate the existing structure. The reason Hillary is getting any traction is because people like the machine thats already working for them. The most consolidated support she has is among Women and minorities, who statistically speaking receive more in tax benefits and pay less taxes than those in other groups. Her opponent in the primary, Bernie Sanders, isn't advocating freedom from the system, he's trying to get more people into the umbrella who feel as if they've intentionally been left out of it.

[tj119]

Because people in this country flock to liars and morons.