Sanders thinks about banning cigarettes

[Northy]

Perhaps we let people make their own decisions, Bernie? You're not our father.

[Felya]

Kind of funny since you've been repeating the same insult towards other people that disagree with you. Maybe some new material is in order.

There is no sign on the internet better at indicating someone knows their wrong, than stooping to insults. I'm sure that every person on this forum can respond to him the same way and at no point he will realize the issue is his explaining. After all, the guy thinks I'm trying to be clever, because I couldn't read his mind to realize that his use of 'biological impact', actually meant 'get you high'.

[Invrlose]

Then sellers will simply just sell enough smokes in bulk to make a profit despite the fine, and users will simply be extra careful to 1. smoke in their house with the windows closed and 2. not let the police in unless they have a warrant (because cops cannot legally enter your house without a warrant unless you open the door and let them in, even if they are looking for evidence of smoking, and the police aren't going to get a judge to sign a warrant to search your house for smokes), and 3. be sure to grind up the smoke with an electronic paper mill (costs like, $40 these days) and either flush the remains down the drain, throw them into the fireplace or outright just dump it in the trash (even if cops find remains of a smoke, they're not going to ticket you unless they can prove you actually smoked it).



This, and you don't even need to grow it; there are multiple kits out there that exist that one can buy and just assemble smokes.

You mean people are going to smoke inside their houses and not give everyone around them cancer? Sounds like a win to me! The purpose of banning cigarettes is to reduce the number of people smoking. If you don't think banning cigarettes would drastically cut down the amount of people who smoke, you're delusional. I've said this like 30 times now. You literally just proved my point with this post, thanks.

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There is no sign on the internet better at indicating someone knows their wrong, than stooping to insults. I'm sure that every person on this forum can respond to him the same way and at no point he will realize the issue is his explaining. After all, the guy thinks I'm trying to be clever, because I couldn't read his mind to realize that his use of 'biological impact', actually meant 'get you high'.

Biological effect, not impact. It's time to stop posting.

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You want to know what fucks the poor more than tobacco?

The Lottery.

[Wildo]

Okay, seriously, are you Americans all on crack? Has someone tested the water in all the major cities. This is what you consider elite talent for running your nation? WTF are you guys doing. It's hilarious, but scary all at the same time.

[bloodmoth13]

You want to know what fucks the poor more than tobacco?

The Lottery.

been doing studies on schedules of reinforcement lately, couldnt agree more, gambling is the definition of stealing from the poor to give to the rich, and poor are much more likely than rich to get addicted.

a ban on gambling seems more appropriate to me, especially slot machines and even lotteries.

[TITAN308]

been doing studies on schedules of reinforcement lately, couldnt agree more, gambling is the definition of stealing from the poor to give to the rich, and poor are much more likely than rich to get addicted.

a ban on gambling seems more appropriate to me, especially slot machines and even lotteries.

I'm not even talking slot machines or casinos.

I'm talking about paper lottery slips and those scratch off's you buy at gas stations.

More than a tax on the poor, its a tax on the stupid.

[Trollfat]

Okay, seriously, are you Americans all on crack? Has someone tested the water in all the major cities. This is what you consider elite talent for running your nation? WTF are you guys doing. It's hilarious, but scary all at the same time.

Ikr. I'm a Bernie supporter and I can't understand why people are getting behind this.

[taliey]

We're pretty informed about cigarette consumption. I believe our European and Asian counterparts smoke more than we do.

The excise tax on it covers a lot.

[Stone the Crow]

Ikr. I'm a Bernie supporter and I can't understand why people are getting behind this.

If you were a Bernie supporter you know even he isn't behind this. At no point whatsoever has he said what the original poster claimed in the thread's title.

It's all. Complete. And utter. Bullshit.

[Orlong]

Here is a catch though... Being a smoker and not being able to get smokes, increases stress, rage and obesity, that none smokers do not face.

Which is why they shouldnt be banned

[Felya]

Biological effect, not impact. It's time to stop posting.

Impact is a synonym of effect, while biological effect is not a synonym of 'getting high'... you are also posting memes now... A little self awareness goes a long way...

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Which is why they shouldnt be banned

I don't think it should be. There are probebly things that should be banned, but I cannot think of any this early in the morn. I just don't pretend there is some sort of health benefit that outweighs the health detriment, even if it supports my opinion to pretend it does.

[Deleted]

Cool, more industry-destroying ideas from that guy

been doing studies on schedules of reinforcement lately, couldnt agree more, gambling is the definition of stealing from the poor to give to the rich, and poor are much more likely than rich to get addicted.

a ban on gambling seems more appropriate to me, especially slot machines and even lotteries.

Nobody is forcing anyone to gamble, people that gamble do it willfuly. I gamble, and thats my problem, and I dont expect the governament or some people to make me stop it. Is it bad? Yeah, but thats my business. My responsabillity.
And bernie supporters get mad when someone calls him a commie... the more time passes, the more he looks like a lunatic/child

[Invrlose]

Impact is a synonym of effect, while biological effect is not a synonym of 'getting high'... you are also posting memes now... A little self awareness goes a long way...

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I don't think it should be. There are probebly things that should be banned, but I cannot think of any this early in the morn. I just don't pretend there is some sort of health benefit that outweighs the health detriment, even if it supports my opinion to pretend it does.

I'm a pharmacist. Me> you

[zenkai]

cigarette butt litter is the #1 thing I hate about smokers, I hope they make it illegal for that alone.

[Felya]

I'm a pharmacist. Me> you

Sure, you are the man and superior in every regard. Too bad you cannot express it... Imagine what you'd be if you could express your superiority... Maybe a doctor...

[unfilteredJW]

Smoking does have benefits. It reduces stress and rage, and helps curb obesity, and there have been studies showing many other benefits:

http://www.livescience.com/15115-5-h...g-disease.html

Orlong signing in from 1950

[bloodmoth13]

Cool, more industry-destroying ideas from that guy



Nobody is forcing anyone to gamble, people that gamble do it willfuly. I gamble, and thats my problem, and I dont expect the governament or some people to make me stop it. Is it bad? Yeah, but thats my business. My responsabillity.
And bernie supporters get mad when someone calls him a commie... the more time passes, the more he looks like a lunatic/child

The persons own mind is forcing them, its addictive, addictions cause people to perform actions they may not want to.
If you are responsible enough with your wealth and know when to quit, then i have no problem with you gambling, but those who are poor generally are the kind of people who arent responsible enough in the first place, gambling away what little they have because they are psychologically conditioned to repeat the action even with out rewards.

Whats worse is when they get into debt through gambling, its nearly irreversible. The gambling industry thrives because of people like this, suckers who waste their paychecks on an abysmal chance that they might get their money back or more, Its just rich who know the psychology on gambling preying on those who do not, the wealth doesnt come from the wealthy, studies show that wealthy people are less likely to gamble, so casinos suck their wealth out of the poor

It also affects society as a whole in many ways, since its preying on the poor and those who lack self control, its likely that they end up with nothing at the end and will have to resort to other options, either they will rely on benefits, siphoning tax payers money into the pockets of the wealthy, or in extreme circumstances they will turn to crime.
They may also have dependents, children who will have to go to school without food, who in turn cant focus, then get shit grades, low self esteem and then become a burden on the state.

If you really love gambling so much you can do it in your own home im fine with that, but there should be a ban on casinos and slots in pubs that are easy to access and detrimental to society.
Im not interested in laws that are impossible to enforce, but making it harder for poor to become addicted to something detrimental to them just seems like a smart direction for an intellegent society to take
We need more money shifting from the rich to the poor to create a bigger middle class, not the other way around.

[TITAN308]

Sure, you are the man and superior in every regard. Too bad you cannot express it... Imagine what you'd be if you could express your superiority... Maybe a doctor...

We can settle this easily.

Both of you are forbidden from shaving for 1 months. Post pictures at the end of the month.

[bloodmoth13]

Orlong signing in from 1950

Lol
There are more healthy ways to deal with stress and curb obesity than smoking, its like saying cyanide is healthy because it kills germs

[Felya]

We can settle this easily.

Both of you are forbidden from shaving for 1 months. Post pictures at the end of the month.

Oh dude, I'm already there... Cannot grow a beard, but I work from home... So, who cares?