[Megathread] Bernie Sanders 2016

[Skroe]

So have we all agreed yet that the end has finally come? Granted it was a doom fortold many moons ago, but it has arrived?

Or are we moving our collective fantasy to Sanders winning California 98%-2%?

[Theodarzna]

So have we all agreed yet that the end has finally come? Granted it was a doom fortold many moons ago, but it has arrived?

Or are we moving our collective fantasy to Sanders winning California 98%-2%?

In my case I never said he would win, just that I wish him in till the end win or lose. I think he should stay with it till the end then not endorse Hillary.

[Skroe]

In my case I never said he would win, just that I wish him in till the end win or lose. I think he should stay with it till the end then not endorse Hillary.

There is an article in the New York Times today about you.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/op...sers.html?_r=0

[Matchles]

In my case I never said he would win, just that I wish him in till the end win or lose. I think he should stay with it till the end then not endorse Hillary.

If he doesn't endorse his career is over. No fucking way ANY Dem in the Senate, House, state or local government helps him out in any manner if he throws a tantrum and ends up giving the presidency to the Republicans. We have been through this before so ignorance isn't an excuse.

[InventiveMeasures]

So yeah, like said before, Hillary's goons spent $1 million to recruit people to fuck with Bernie's social media.



Amazing tactics. These are the people, in this thread too, insulting Bernie's supporters. Amazing people.

I didn't get a chance to see that one. That's pretty foul. Thanks for the link.

[Matchles]

I didn't get a chance to see that one. That's pretty foul. Thanks for the link.

It also has nothing to do with the group that a Hillary Super PAC is paying for online presence. TYT talking out their asses again trying to make connections where there are none. A quick list of how they are wrong.

1. Clinton and her campaign have nothing to do with the funding of the correct the record people.
2. Whoever posted the child porn (if that is what it was) has nothing to do with the guy that reported the site (notice his report was for threats of violence, NOT inappropriate or banned material)
3. That guy who posted the takedown request is not part of the Super PAC group.

This would be like holding Sanders responsible because one of his supporters committed a crime. About as stupid a claim as you could make.

[Skroe]

If he doesn't endorse his career is over. No fucking way ANY Dem in the Senate, House, state or local government helps him out in any manner if he throws a tantrum and ends up giving the presidency to the Republicans. We have been through this before so ignorance isn't an excuse.

His career is over anyway.

After Clinton beats Trump, she's going to make sure the liberal wing is decimated. There is no way in hell they let Elizabeth Warren raise a rival power base that Clinton has to deal with it while simultaneously dealing with a hostile Republican party.

You can stick a fork in both Warren and Sanders.

[Sury]

So this was said before but here's a video from a couple days ago:

But yeah, I suppose you can still keep repeating that Bernie will start "campaigning for Hillary". Maybe he'll ask his supporters to vote for Hillary. It's not impossible. However, it doesn't look like it.

Let's look closely at what he said and how he addressed the question so we come to the proper conclusion of why he answered the way he did. It was clearly an attempt on his part to not make the decision for his supports. He propped up his positions and challenged Clinton to address the concerns of Sander's supporters. Here is the direct quote as he addressed the question.

"First, uhm, I think it is.. you know we are not a movement where I can snap my fingers and to say to you or anyone else what you should do. Because you won't listen to me. You shouldn't. Uh, you will make these decisions yourself."

He then goes on to state it is incumbent on her to move farther left to better align herself with the views of the average Sanders' supporter, which is perfectly acceptable of a request on his part.

Do I think he will outright give her his endorsement? I do not believe it will be that black and white. He has however backed off more recently in what appears to be his way of ensuring his supporters have a bridge to cross come November with another Democratic nominee on the other side. I do not want to speak for the man by any means but as passionately as he addresses the concerns of the people he represent, I believe he knows how important it is for Democrats to continue to hold the Oval Office when it is time to pick the upcoming Supreme Court Justices. He most certainly knows at his age this was a last attempt on his part to advance his positions on a national level.

Secretary Clinton may make some of you here sick to your stomach at the idea of her becoming POTUS. At the end of the day if you represent yourself as a Liberal then realize a Democrat in the Oval Office will offer you more opportunity to advance the change you desire, which Senator Sanders campaigned on, than a Republican ever will. She may be far too conservative for your liking but she is your last best option. Donald Trump is leading an entirely different movement with much different supporters who have drastically different concerns (based on a conservative approach to similar problems).

If you happened to watch either of Sanders' or Clinton's speeches tonight you will find the two are in fact offering olive branches to one another. No such olive branch currently exists between extreme Liberals and Conservatives. Those of us in the middle see it very clearly from our perspective the disruptive effect of partisanship in the current political climate.

[Theodarzna]

If he doesn't endorse his career is over. No fucking way ANY Dem in the Senate, House, state or local government helps him out in any manner if he throws a tantrum and ends up giving the presidency to the Republicans. We have been through this before so ignorance isn't an excuse.

The Clintons will make sure his career is dead no matter what.

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His career is over anyway.

After Clinton beats Trump, she's going to make sure the liberal wing is decimated. There is no way in hell they let Elizabeth Warren raise a rival power base that Clinton has to deal with it while simultaneously dealing with a hostile Republican party.

You can stick a fork in both Warren and Sanders.

Ah, all those voters will simply become Kissinger worshiping chickenhawks alla you?

I'm sorry not all of us our that worried about our dads stock portfolio.

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There is an article in the New York Times today about you.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/op...sers.html?_r=0

Ah, you just want someone easily boxed in, from a fake conservative that is hilarious.

However, if you will go back, I've never said I thought Sanders was going to win.

[Milchshake]

Bernie sent out another plea for money. Posting on a gaming board isnt going to win him Montana and Oregon or another lose in California.

[Skroe]

The Clintons will make sure his career is dead no matter what.


Ah, all those voters will simply become Kissinger worshiping chickenhawks alla you?

I'm sorry not all of us our that worried about our dads stock portfolio.

LOL No. It's just that they won't matter. Losing elections has consequences. It's supposed to absolutely suck.

Ah, you just want someone easily boxed in, from a fake conservative that is hilarious.

However, if you will go back, I've never said I thought Sanders was going to win.

Not really. I'm just loving this. But the article stands (in general).

Sanders path to victory was non-existent on March 14th

It shouldn't have taken until April 26th for that point to get driven home.

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Bernie sent out another plea for money. Posting on a gaming board isnt going to win him Montana and Oregon or another lose in California.

Oh man, let the scam continue!

[Theodarzna]

o your stomach at the idea of her becoming POTUS. At the end of the day if you represent yourself as a Liberal then realize a Democrat in the Oval Office will offer you more opportunity to advance the change you desire, which Senator Sanders campaigned on, than a Republican ever will. She may be far too conservative for your liking but she is your last best option. Donald Trump is leading an entirely different movement with much different supporters who have drastically different concerns (based on a conservative approach to similar problems).

If you happened to watch either of Sanders' or Clinton's speeches tonight you will find the two are in fact offering olive branches to one another. No such olive branch currently exists between extreme Liberals and Conservatives. Those of us in the middle see it very clearly from our perspective the disruptive effect of partisanship in the current political climate.

The Oliver branches are a lie IMHO, I see Hillary as beyond trust and beyond worthiness of trust.

She practically consorts with a demon (Kissinger) and keeps court with the most vile slithering creatures whom have ever lurched out of the pits of New Yorks Financial Services "Industry."

To say Hillary is going to advance a thing is a complete joke.

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LOL No. It's just that they won't matter. Losing elections has consequences. It's supposed to absolutely suck.




Not really. I'm just loving this. But the article stands (in general).

Sanders path to victory was non-existent on March 14th

It shouldn't have taken until April 26th for that point to get driven home.

I again have never proclaimed he would win. Just my support for him, you seem fanatically in your sperging out over him. I must ask, did your mom get boned by a Sanders supporter? Is it happening right now?

Ah, so they don't matter? What happened to everyone having to unify behind her to defeat trump? Something about a focused laser?

I suppose now you and the fellow chicken hawks defending daddy's money don't need the laser? Then why do you care so much?

[Skroe]

I actually want to paint it in big letters right now.

Fuck Bernie Sanders. Really. Fuck Him. And his shit ideas.

Fuck him and his shit campaign.
Fuck him and every single mother fucking Facebanking BernieBro.

I am laughing right now. Very, very hard. A crap campaign based on crap ideas that was based around a non-existent revolution, bullying, economic kookery and bullshit was staked through the heart like the vampire it was.

And I couldn't be happier. He lost bad, and I'm glad. I find it hilarious. The bad guy lost.

This is a loss for liberalism months in the making and I hope it hurts like hell. I hope that liberals never forget that their best shot in years just got stepped on by the moderate majority that things what Bernie Sanders is selling isn't for them.

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I again have never proclaimed he would win. Just my support for him, you seem fanatically in your sperging out over him. I must ask, did your mom get boned by a Sanders supporter? Is it happening right now?

Ah, so they don't matter? What happened to everyone having to unify behind her to defeat trump? Something about a focused laser?

I suppose now you and the fellow chicken hawks defending daddy's money don't need the laser? Then why do you care so much?

Dancing on his political grave was last week.

This, on the other hand, is pissing on it.

When Donald Trump is similarly annihilated in the Fall, he and his ilk will get the exact same thing. Extremists have no place here, on the right or the left.

[Milchshake]

I feel bad for the BernieBros. Not sure if they're even liberals. Though one gets the impression they're mostly white males. As liberals they would know that Democrats rely less-and-less on the white male vote in presidential elections. Obama showed the path forward, and Hillary is following. Even if they dogpile for Trump, the Dems will cope as they already have.

This is like the Ellaria Sand moment. Bernie gets to play the part of Prince Doran.

[derpkitteh]

I actually want to paint it in big letters right now.

Fuck Bernie Sanders. Really. Fuck Him. And his shit ideas.

Fuck him and his shit campaign.
Fuck him and every single mother fucking Facebanking BernieBro.

I am laughing right now. Very, very hard. A crap campaign based on crap ideas that was based around a non-existent revolution, bullying, economic kookery and bullshit was staked through the heart like the vampire it was.

And I couldn't be happier. He lost bad, and I'm glad. I find it hilarious. The bad guy lost.

This is a loss for liberalism months in the making and I hope it hurts like hell. I hope that liberals never forget that their best shot in years just got stepped on by the moderate majority that things what Bernie Sanders is selling isn't for them.

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Dancing on his political grave was last week.

This, on the other hand, is pissing on it.

When Donald Trump is similarly annihilated in the Fall, he and his ilk will get the exact same thing. Extremists have no place here, on the right or the left.

you are definitely everything wrong with this planet.

were i ever in power, you wouldn't be.

anyway, i'll be voting trump then. figured that's how it'd be eventually. definitely think he's got a chance at actually winning, considering how cnn polls seems to tell quite a story of shifting ideas about trump from the right. the majority of people seem to think that he should get the nomination if he's the closest to the 1200 something.

[Gray_Matter]

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Bernie will win California with 75 - 25.
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wow. No he won't. And even if he does he still probably loses.

It's over, they need to give up with these fake impossible CA margins.

By my calculations he needs to win both NJ and California by 35%. Those percentages will go up when he doesn't meet the other targets on the way.

[Skroe]

I feel bad for the BernieBros. Not sure if they're even liberals. Though one gets the impression they're mostly white males. As liberals they would know that Democrats rely less-and-less on the white male vote in presidential elections. Obama showed the path forward, and Hillary is following. Even if they dogpile for Trump, the Dems will cope as they already have.

This is like the Ellaria Sand moment. Bernie gets to play the part of Prince Doran.

They don't care.

Really! And that's the problem. Page 1, Paragraph 1 of the Democratic Party Playbook says "Identity Politics is our Thing". And its true. The Democratic Party is based around identity politics.

Bernie Sanders and his campaign's central failure was that they mistook their distaste for politics as licence to be terrible at it.

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you are definitely everything wrong with this planet.

were i ever in power, you wouldn't be.

anyway, i'll be voting trump then. figured that's how it'd be eventually. definitely think he's got a chance at actually winning, considering how cnn polls seems to tell quite a story of shifting ideas about trump from the right. the majority of people seem to think that he should get the nomination if he's the closest to the 1200 something.

Go Ahead.

Waste.Your.Vote.

[Gray_Matter]

Actually he is correct, just no in the way he probably thinks.

Sanders did not start a revolution as this push started long before he tried to run and has been getting stronger with each year. It was the push with Ron Paul when he ran, it was the push that got Obama elected and it was the push that turned Sanders into the credible threat to Clinton that was strong enough the media and DNC had to do him dirty to keep him from gaining support. Though Matchles doesn't agree with me on this.

Next election I expect to see this push return and probably just as strong if not stronger.

That depends on whether the "movement" support the democratic party or try to crash it. You can't change a party from the outside.

[Milchshake]

They don't care.

Really! And that's the problem. Page 1, Paragraph 1 of the Democratic Party Playbook says "Identity Politics is our Thing". And its true. The Democratic Party is based around identity politics.

But but they claim to have been a "registered democrat" for years. How could they have missed this? Wait... are you implying that white privilege made them over look identity politics?


Dont drink the tears yet, they're not ripe yet. When Bernie endorse Hillary.... that will be the time.

[Skroe]

But but they claim to have been a "registered democrat" for years. How could they have missed this? Wait... are you implying that white privilege made them over look identity politics?


Dont drink the tears yet, they're not ripe yet. When Bernie endorse Hillary.... that will be the time.

That and they're the political imbeciles of our time. It's like they're the mirror universe version of Obama's 2008 campaign. Instead of brilliance and innovation, it's back slapping bullcrap and more back slapping bullcrap. Sanders down? DONATE $27 DOLLARS! QUICK! What are these Superdelegate things? You're saying they were here the WHOLE TIME? Black people vote democratic!?! And we need them to win?! *Gasp*.

Sanders 2016 is a text book case in what-not-to-do. It's rampant idoicy is arguably the worst of the 2016 campaign... except maybe whatever Jeb Bush had.

And I can't help but feast on the tears. It's so richly deserved to a fact-free hype train that barreled right down the Accela line, straight into the ocean . Ill save some for the Great Sanders Prostration though.