In true socialism you only need to work two days a week

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...because despite of huge oil reserves, the country is so thoroughly messed up that you don't have enough electricity to work.

The country in question is, of course, Venezuela -- the 21st century incarnation of a socialist utopia.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuel...tor-1461718411

CARACAS—Venezuelan bureaucrats will work two days a week to save electricity in the country facing a deepening energy crisis.

Public employees, who account for more than a third of Venezuela’s formal labor force, will have Wednesday and Thursday off, adding to an earlier decree which made Fridays a holiday, President Nicolás Maduro said on state television. Primary schools will also shut Fridays to save power.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36145184

Not long ago, Venezuela ran out of toilet paper. For more triumphs of socialism, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortages_in_Venezuela.

[Hif]

You want socialism you look at Europe. Not at Venezuela.

[May90]

I'd say, Venezuela isn't as much socialism as a tyranny. A tyranny, no matter in what economical system, always leads in trouble.

You want socialism you look at Europe. Not at Venezuela.

I'd say, for example, Nordic countries are capitalism with socialist elements, not socialism per se.

[Hif]

I'd say, Venezuela isn't as much socialism as a tyranny. A tyranny, no matter in what economical system, always leads in trouble.


I'd say, for example, Nordic countries are capitalism with socialist elements, not socialism per se.

I disagree with the notion that capitalism is separate from socialism. It isn't. A socialist country does have a market economy. What it has in addition compared to a purely capitalistic economy is a government provide safety net for the poorest and the disenfranchised.

[Deleted]

You want socialism you look at Europe. Not at Venezuela.

Yep, EU has been struggling with a massive economical crisis for years, combined with gutless, immoral, ignorant and inefficient management.

[Deleted]

You not understanding what socialism is doesn't make Venezuela a socialist state.

[J Allen Brack]

You want socialism you look at Europe. Not at Venezuela.

Typical child who doesn't understand that social programs do not equal socialism. We're talking about state-owned means of production. Venezuela is socialist. Nordic cuckland is not.

[Deleted]

I disagree with the notion that capitalism is separate from socialism. It isn't. A socialist country does have a market economy. What it has in addition compared to a purely capitalistic economy is a government provide safety net for the poorest and the disenfranchised.

What you mean is that socialism needs money created by capitalism to work, because socialism and socialists are unabe to keep even the basic functions of the society working on their own.

And at the same time socialists attempt to strangulate capitalism with all means possible.

[Hif]

Typical child who doesn't understand that social programs do not equal socialism. We're talking about state-owned means of production. Venezuela is socialist. Nordic cuckland is not.

State owned enterprises is communism. Your education system failed you.

[Hooked]

You cant have socialism with 3rd world illegal immigration and expect to thrive. That is a fact, globalist illegal immigration now falls under refugees, that's the new keyword that skirts them past the normal rules and laws of a 1st world country. I hate the globalists.

[Hif]

What you mean is that socialism needs money created by capitalism to work, because socialism and socialists are unabe to keep even the basic functions of the society working on their own.

And at the same time socialists attempt to strangulate capitalism with all means possible.

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are all socialist programmes.

[Hooked]

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are all socialist programmes.

Yeah its fine when the benefits are for us, not so fine when they try to add millions of 3rd world gimmedats. Socialism and this sick need of the left to bring in as many 3rd world leeches as possible is un-American and anti western. Its a Trojan horse, its obvious you sickos.

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Typical child who doesn't understand that social programs do not equal socialism. We're talking about state-owned means of production. Venezuela is socialist. Nordic cuckland is not.

You clearly do not understand socialism, "state owned means of production" is not socialism, that is called "state capitalism".

[Hif]

Yeah its fine when they are for us, not so fine when they try to add millions of 3rd world gimmedats.

Who is us? The US accept 100,000s of third worlders every year.

[Deleted]

State owned enterprises is communism. Your education system failed you.

No, that is state capitalism, not communism.

[Hooked]

We have quite some socialism here, we also have 3rd world immigration and we are thriving.
Sucks to be your argument.

PS. Lovely thread, this is surely going places!

Well Norway is paying each refugee 1000 euros to leave. Yeah great success, you guys are awesome.

[Surfd]

Yep, EU has been struggling with a massive economical crisis for years, combined with gutless, immoral, ignorant and inefficient management; the inevitable result of too many socialists, new and old, mingling within the structures like vermin and rotting it from the inside.

Replace socialists with capatilists, and "massive economical crisis" with "inability to keep their country functioning without being in a constant state of war with someone", and you could be talking about a major first world country i know.

How is that military industrial complex working for ya?

[Hooked]

They are still better people than you are, so I don't blame them for wanting more of them.

Yeah think that, if the circumstances were reversed they would tear down your windmills and put clotheslines where the windmills used to be. That would be a bargain for your people if that's all they did.

[tankbug]

Typical child who doesn't understand that social programs do not equal socialism. We're talking about state-owned means of production. Venezuela is socialist. Nordic cuckland is not.

In Norway, the state has owned or at least owned the majority of shares of the biggest companies, and it has benefited from it. When the oil reserves were found, the big oil companies had very tough contracts with the government to make sure the wealth ended up where it belonged, in the hands of the people. Now, it's not a pure socialistic state, but no one in the western world is advocating that kind of government either. So if that's what OP is talking about, this post is useless, kinda like "murder is bad!".

P.s. try to introduce any form of government in a poor country with lots of corruption, distrust of authorities, organized crime, unsafe streets and hopelessness. See how easy it is to turn it into a flourishing, working democracy.

[Hooked]

You're not making sense at all, but don't worry: We're used to that.

But please.. Tell us more about this leeching Trojan horse?
Trojan horse for what? What is their goal?

Their goal is to invade and take over. Merkel and Obama seem to agree, everyone else says fuck no. Coalition of the willing is a military term, this is an attempt by the globalists to further tear down freedoms for the collective.