"The Lost Boys" – young men opt for virtual life of pornography and gaming

[May90]

And you think feminists cause this?

So you live in a world where men love monogamy and having children and hate Tinder-esque casual sex, but feminists force them into it?

One person in one of these threads claimed that cheating is solely a woman's responsibility, because allegedly she decides whether sexual encounter happens or not, and so a man cheating on his wife is not to be blamed, only the woman he cheated on with is.

After that, I am not surprised by anything.

[Fahrenheit]

I believe it. There is a good portion of limp wristed, low testosterone gamers here. Talking about how hard their lot in life is and shit.

[twiddler]

Econ is my thing, yes.


That doesn't mean i'm overlooking something when I say I don't think your quibble is valid (because seriously, I might be missing something here)



When I've encountered what you've described, it's been more about predicting outcomes, not telling others how to achieve said outcomes.

A sports analyst might say that Andy Dalton is about to get in the Seahawks' booty, since Andy Dalton plays very well when he's at home and when Aj Green and Tyler Eifert are healthy.

A sports analyst isn't going to say when Dalton should call audibles and run a 10 yd QB sneak in the end-zone.

But again, sports economics and analyctics are subjects I don't dabble in much (Though I probably should try to win money playing fan duel). From what I've seen of it, I don't see how financial analysis is similar.

We definitely are not on the same page. If you aren't aware of the integration of nerds into sports, it's essentially the very reason I mentioned finance. These are people with little to no experience in the domain who are transforming operations through analytics. Same with quants, whether it be optimization of operations research or prop shop traders, data scientists in sports are using statistics and movement data to analyze and suggest plays. From what I've heard from these colleagues and a few data science conventions, it extends as far as pattern recognition to understand weaknesses from the team down to the player. So, for instance and as a simple example, their software allows you to identify the most common defenses against a screen and roll with players spaced some minimal distance. So, yes, this is actually a case of your sports analyst is telling you what you should do, why, and when.

Unfortunately, being proprietary technologies, finding a good thorough example is somewhat difficult at the moment but I'll post something if I find anything. You could go check out stats.com's sportvu page and look up their videos if you wish, though. On my phone and too lazy to link.

[THE Bigzoman]

We definitely are not on the same page. If you aren't aware of the integration of nerds into sports, it's essentially the very reason I mentioned finance. These are people with little to no experience in the domain who are transforming operations through analytics. Same with quants, whether it be optimization of operations research or prop shop traders, data scientists in sports are using statistics and movement data to analyze and suggest plays. From what I've heard from these colleagues and a few data science conventions, it extends as far as pattern recognition to understand weaknesses from the team down to the player. So, for instance and as a simple example, their software allows you to identify the most common defenses against a screen and roll with players spaced some minimal distance. So, yes, this is actually a case of your sports analyst is telling you what you should do, why, and when.

Unfortunately, being proprietary technologies, finding a good thorough example is somewhat difficult at the moment but I'll post something if I find anything. You could go check out stats.com's sportvu page and look up their videos if you wish, though. On my phone and too lazy to link.

You don't have to. My laptop is the shizznitz.


Apparently, you're better off going for it on 4th down when you're on your own 37

http://advancedfootballanalytics.com...4th-down-study


What?! How many teams actually go for it on 4th down though? How big was the sample in the data? If your sample has a high number of hail-mary situations, the data set might be a little skewed. I have so many questions.


I have to seriously thank you here for a minute. I didn't know this was actually a thing.

I mean, I know about data science and all that and I've been dabbeling, but I didn't know it had this kind of grip on sports.
@May90. My analogy didn't apply. I'll give you shit another time.

[Celista]

One person in one of these threads claimed that cheating is solely a woman's responsibility, because allegedly she decides whether sexual encounter happens or not, and so a man cheating on his wife is not to be blamed, only the woman he cheated on with is.

After that, I am not surprised by anything.

Amazed by off-topic posters on a regular basis.

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And you think feminists cause this?

So you live in a world where men love monogamy and having children and hate Tinder-esque casual sex, but feminists force them into it?

He thinks so, yes. But i love the way you point out the inherent silliness in such a POV

[Vash The Stampede]

And you think feminists cause this?

So you live in a world where men love monogamy and having children and hate Tinder-esque casual sex, but feminists force them into it?

Feminists play a role in this. What man wants a women who is constantly fighting him for dominance in a relationship? Especially men who do want a loving relationship? Nerds/Geeks want this monogamy relationship more so than other men, but are very... picky. Unlike men who move from relationships, who aren't very picky because they plan to move on anyway.

So is it a surprise that young men today tend to live a fantasy life, where they see nothing but porn and games? Feminism isn't the only reason for this, but it's definitely one of them. Either directly or indirectly.

Hey guys, don't you want a woman like this?


Or do you want to play Japanese games with Boob bouncing technology?

[Pull My Finger]

Yeah I can definitely tell that a LOT of young men today are INCREDIBLE pussies, no doubt about that.

[Deleted]

And you think feminists cause this?

So you live in a world where men love monogamy and having children and hate Tinder-esque casual sex, but feminists force them into it?

No of course not

Traditional society involved forcing both men and women into monogamy and having children

That's kind of how you create a stable society, you make everyone have a stake in society by giving them something to lose: family, children, etc - things that "tie them down" and force them to make an effort

But when you free girls from social expectations, you free men also, so they lose their obligation to be providers/fathers/etc -- and that's how you end up with both genders now spinning their wheels, free but also goalless and perhaps a bit lost

Look, it's pretty good in some ways (casual sex etc), but pretty socially unproductive, especially when it comes to raising children

[May90]

Feminists play a role in this. What man wants a women who is constantly fighting him for dominance in a relationship? Especially men who do want a loving relationship? Nerds/Geeks want this monogamy relationship more so than other men, but are very... picky. Unlike men who move from relationships, who aren't very picky because they plan to move on anyway.

So is it a surprise that young men today tend to live a fantasy life, where they see nothing but porn and games? Feminism isn't the only reason for this, but it's definitely one of them. Either directly or indirectly.

Hey guys, don't you want a woman like this?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NQaY5Vb.gif[IMG]

Or do you want to play Japanese games with Boob bouncing technology?
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You seriously think that most, or even a significant percentage, of women are like this? Ugh...

What about Japan, which is known for a large number of so-called Hikki, people never going out and spending all the time in virtual reality? Are Western feminists to blame for that too? Or are Japanese ones?

Seems like a ridiculous assumption to me. People spend a lot of time on porn and gaming because they like it. That's all there is to it, really.

[Freese]

Feminists play a role in this. What man wants a women who is constantly fighting him for dominance in a relationship? Especially men who do want a loving relationship? Nerds/Geeks want this monogamy relationship more so than other men, but are very... picky. Unlike men who move from relationships, who aren't very picky because they plan to move on anyway.

So is it a surprise that young men today tend to live a fantasy life, where they see nothing but porn and games? Feminism isn't the only reason for this, but it's definitely one of them. Either directly or indirectly.

Hey guys, don't you want a woman like this?


Or do you want to play Japanese games with Boob bouncing technology?

I don't want either of those things. Also, I work for a major university (you know, a hot bead of "liberal" ideology and "feminism") and I have never seen a woman like that in my life (except on the computer screen).

[Mormolyce]

No of course not

Traditional society involved forcing both men and women into monogamy and having children

That's kind of how you create a stable society, you make everyone have a stake in society by giving them something to lose: family, children, etc - things that "tie them down" and force them to make an effort

But when you free girls from social expectations, you free men also, so they lose their obligation to be providers/fathers/etc -- and that's how you end up with both genders now spinning their wheels, free but also goalless and perhaps a bit lost

Look, it's pretty good in some ways (casual sex etc), but pretty socially unproductive, especially when it comes to raising children

IMO if you're not 100% into having children, you shouldn't be having them. This is better for everyone, since you get fewer absent or incapable parents, and in any case the planet does not need more humans.

None of this has much to do with feminism though, but rather the liberalisation of society and the death of the old order. Which happened before most of us were even born, so this is nothing new.

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Feminists play a role in this. What man wants a women who is constantly fighting him for dominance in a relationship? Especially men who do want a loving relationship? Nerds/Geeks want this monogamy relationship more so than other men, but are very... picky. Unlike men who move from relationships, who aren't very picky because they plan to move on anyway.

So is it a surprise that young men today tend to live a fantasy life, where they see nothing but porn and games? Feminism isn't the only reason for this, but it's definitely one of them. Either directly or indirectly.

Hey guys, don't you want a woman like this?


Or do you want to play Japanese games with Boob bouncing technology?

Talk about your false dichotomies.

Do you really think all women are raging harridans? Maybe you should get off the computer and meet some? Most of them are lovely.

P.S. Would bang the redhead.

[Spectral]

None of this has much to do with feminism though, but rather the liberalisation of society and the death of the old order.

These are pretty tightly interwoven. I'd probably be inclined to agree that third-wave feminism is a consequence of cultural shift rather than a driver, but there seems to be a feedback loop there.

[Gilbergrape]

If "feminism" and "social justice warriors" are supposedly ruining our society, then how are people successfully falling in love and getting married every day of each year? I just ask because the default argument on this board is to blame feminism and SJW for all of your troubles, yet millions of people every year still get married, have sex, reproduce, etc. without difficulty. What's the true problem here?

Just because you ignore or don't know the negative effects that feminism has and had on many men, especially divorced men and fathers, does not mean that these victims of the biased laws that feminism fought for, don't exist. Feminism is about equality for women in the areas women see something to get (money, career), while ignoring and shutting down all the other areas men are at a disadvantage (divorce, children, taxation, lifespan, health, work conditions, army, bills, ...).

[Celista]

Feminists play a role in this. What man wants a women who is constantly fighting him for dominance in a relationship?

Are you stating that you think men should be dominant in the relationship, rather than equal partners? Because that is what it sounds like.

[Azadina]

Are you stating that you think men should be dominant in the relationship, rather than equal partners? Because that is what it sounds like.

Didn't you get the memo, that patriarchy doesn't exist, but woman is supposed to serve a man?

[Celista]

Didn't you get the memo, that patriarchy doesn't exist, but woman is supposed to serve a man?

Oh I post on these forums on a regular basis, I definitely got that memo.

[Skeppio]

Are you stating that you think men should be dominant in the relationship, rather than equal partners? Because that is what it sounds like.

I think they're stating that both partners should be equal. But what these feminists want is not an equal relationship. What they want is a slave, ATM and punching bag, all in one package.

When men are told that they're pure evil and should never ever stand up for themselves or question a woman in any way, it's no wonder why they'll retreat to a world where they can have a breather from that shit.

[Celista]

I think they're stating that both partners should be equal. But what these feminists want is not an equal relationship. What they want is a slave, ATM and punching bag, all in one package.

Have you actually ever met women like this, or are you just basing your views of feminists off of things you read on the internet?

[Skeppio]

Have you actually ever met women like this, or are you just basing your views of feminists off of things you read on the internet?

A little from Column A, a little from Column B.

[Celista]

A little from Column A, a little from Column B.

Hmmmmmmm. >.>

/10 char