There need be no confusion if you look at the statement realistically: It's a no on vanilla servers but here's an idea that's been kicking around. What do you think of it? I'll grant that they never quite said no which is leading to a great deal of tea-reading and conclusions around what people want to see. That's OK I guess but give the history of their responses about this in the past this seems to be another in a long line of statements that are summed up as "We're not interested in doing that."
Life is a series of compromises. You can make fun if you like about people willing to accept better for perfect. Idealists often don't get precisely what they want and life goes on. The rest of us will take what we think to be better for what it is. And if it is better then great. We win. Those that sit on the sidelines and criticize don't win anything. It's a choice.
"...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
Not really. Even in garbage gear I find leveling WAY too easy. They need to turn some knobs on mob difficulty if they go through with these new servers. The people who will want to roll on those servers are obviously looking for more of a challenge. So give us challenge! One of the things I love about Vanilla is that there is constant danger when I'm leveling. Getting an extra add or two could kill me. In retail, an extra add or two is meaningless, I'll stomp right through them even in gray gear.
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My claim that they were doing this "to reign in Nost players" mainly stems from the fact that he said this in response to the server, and it seems like something that came up from this ordeal. But in regards to other players, for example, someone that never played Nost, but also quit the game, I fully acknowledge this may be something that could interest them. So in that regards this type of thing probably wouldn't be a bad move at all, my stance of course is not the same as those guys.
For people that feel like their server has been screwed up by realm transfers, or that the community has shrunk down, for example, I can definitely see some these types of guy's wanting to give this a crack, so we are in agreement there.
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lawl, it's funny, I'm actually from Cleveland. I've been to Vegas enough times though and while I've tried much of their fast food (by no means all) In N Out Burger is almost a good enough reason alone to take the flight over lol. We got 5 guys here, they are VERY good, but I'm not a fan of their fries. In N Out's fries are OP.
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Hey if those Pristine servers come out, and they are actually good, you will be thanking that "legacy minority" lol.
See here again... divided. The legacy server community is not at all unified in what they want from it.
If people only played vanilla for the "awesome" leveling experience. Then more people would have had a full roster of alts heading into BC. That wasn't the case.
Not everyone wants this "constant danger" which is really only the result of poor design, areas that are too crowded, premature repops, poor character regeneration. Also the quest design was different, could you go to a place before you wanted to? Yes. Were you supposed to? No.
I leveled my lock pretty much on my own in vanilla, but for my paladin, rogue, shaman, and mage I used leveling guides. Which if followed meant this "constant danger" didn't really exist because you were always in appropriate content that maximized your xp/hr.
Can we stop with the "Legacy community is divided" crap, like you're pretending the retail WoW community doesn't disagree strongly about every single aspect of the game (see Karabor/Bladespire threads, or noflying threads for evidence)
Any community of more than 2 players are gonna have different ideas about what they want. It isn't really a relevant point to raise.
I would prefer a legacy realm a 1000 times more over a pristine server, but as you say, if pristine is the only way they will go, then I will accept that and give it a go. But they will have to do it right as you suggested in a later post of yours. I wonder if they will be open to restoring the elite status on a few mobs, or will it really just be a server with the LFD, etc. features disabled?
I really, really hope they are willing to make some changes.
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I love this 2 hours to lvl 90- 100 and the garrisons missions while i raid that we have now, it made my life a lot easier since i dont have the time to play more than 3 hours a days because of my job. Dunno why people are so upset.....
Also i loved to lvl from 1-60, 60-70,70-80,80-85,85-90 in the past 9 years, but i dont have the time, wish i was 15 again...
(1) Legacy server proponents are not unified on wanting a "challenging" leveling experience
(2) Nowhere in their response where they mention "pristine" servers, do they also suggest it would be more challenging in addition to what is already being described
and THIS is why no one can take you guys seriously. You speak as though you speak for the entire group and you don't.
Your response to this also makes me hope they never add pristine, legacy, or anything of the sort. You will NEVER be satisfied with what they offer, so if you're not bitching about this, you'll be bitching about something else.
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People playing on retail WoW aren't all on board with the ability pruning, most of them don't raid or want to, and nearly every one of them will claim their main class is the most gimped in the next expansion. Its ridiculous Blizzard is wasting that much development time when the playerbase is all over the place, each complaining about the opposite stuff as the other. They should put that money into something with a better roi like hearthstone. Its not like any of us are coming back or that the people who are left will leave no matter what Blizzard does.