‘Game of Thrones’ Accused of Promoting Rape Culture

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If they think GoT is bad, they should pass on Spartacus.

These people should do something useful with their lives.

well personally i enjoy the fact they can say with a straight face we live in a rape culture, see GoT - But not also insist we live in a murder culture, as the number of murders are orders of magnitude worse, and more common than the rape in GoT.

[Aggrophobic]

Come on it's not a contest, I find both equally despicable.

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Nope I think the death sentence is even more medieval.

Indeed it is but saying that all of the middle east is "pro rape" is really silly.

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HEY BUDDY! The night is long and full of terrors! Do you want long terrifying nights? XD

Are there any other nights?

[Tennis]

No, you got that wrong. You could actually be sentenced to death in some middle eastern countries for rape.
Never seen that in the west though so by your logic, rape is more acceptable in the west, right?

Good point. The west is much softer on Rape.

[Belize]

Rape culture is a setting in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to societal attitudes about gender and sexuality.

Is this not real?

Sure, if you live in the Middle East. Not in the west though.

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How is this tread still open? Gender is being discussed here.. not allowed.

[MCMLXXXII]

Indeed it is but saying that all of the middle east is "pro rape" is really silly.

It is but I don't have much trust in ME justice.

[tehealadin]

Wait how is it the US' fault that another group of people has a rape culture?

Its pretty damn big double standard when people throw around that US has a rape culture all the time yet the minute someone puts that label on another culture or society its BAN CITY.

I wasn't being serious. I should have known that sadly, my post wasn't insane enough as to be obvious.

[Xar226]

They're both right and wrong, as far as I am concerned.

As far as being wrong: I think sex can be an important part of a story. The mere fact that something might depict rape, incest, pornography or any other of a list of things people may find objectionable is no problem for me. It's a part of real life and it should be a part of our stories. Not all of them, of course, but ones in which they are appropriate.

Being right: GOT does go to that well a lot, especially the TV show, and it begins to feel gratuitous. As much as I have no problem with sex as part of a story, and neither do I have a problem with pornography to get your sex on, I do take issue with situations where it feels like sex is just thrown at you for no reason because hey, sex right?

All of that said, while this group has the right to feel and to say what they wish, so too do the producers and writers have the right to do what they please with their story. People who aren't capable of seeing sex and violence shouldn't be exposed to them. There's a reason it's TV-MA, after all.

[Sylv_]

Feminazi's are crazy as fuck, first and foremost.

Rape was inherent of the time, it's what happened. People had no rights. But of course, these crazy cunts focus just on women, cause they're selfish little twitts. What about the men who were slaves? What about the farm hands that were slaughtered by crazed knights?

These bitches don't think of that, cause they only think of themselves and their delusional fictional world.
Rape is illegal, how does that promote rape culture? Pretty sure if someone is a criminal and they're breaking the law, that is something different than rape culture.

GoT captures the times and tries for authenticity. Pretty sure you wouldn't find a rad fucking car in place of a horse cause well, horses matter too and it's animal cruelty. Someone get PETA on the phone so they can say that GoT promotes animal cruelty culture.

Fucking psychos.

[jackofwind]

That's how it is presented. I said I don't find it appealling. It is kind of down to the TV production company to make it appealling.

I'm curious about the icezombies though.

That's how someone who hasn't read the books might think its presented. The fact is that the story started to be written over 20 years ago now. People getting their panties shoved up their butts about it now because they like to hate on popular media just look silly.

The books (and thereby the show as well) aren't about dragons, they're not about about rape, they're not about tits or sex or abuse or anything. They're a low fantasy drama set in a fictional world designed to resemble western Europe. If you don't like it then don't like it, but don't pretend that you know what it's about if you have't read it.

And if you want to read an even better contemporary fantasy series check out the Malazan Book of the Fallen. Erikson's work would make the people complaining about ASoIaF shit themselves.

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I stopped watching after season two. The production and casting is great, but the story choices, acting, character interpretations and reliance on shock value and "your favorite character will die" meme proved to much to me.

It's a good show for sure, but it's super overrated.

No-one of huge, significant importance died in S2 so it seems odd to me that was the season that broke the camel's back.

[galvin]

Surprised people not complaining about outlander. Sometimes it goes full porn.

[Flurryfang]

Scenes I found unnecessary:

- Danaerys being raped by Drogo. Wasn't like that in the books, and it makes no sense that she would be severely raped for quite a while and then suddenly go "oh I'll change this" and then fall deeply in love with him. The book version made a lot more sense.

- Cersei being raped by Jaimie under Joffrey's dead body. Apparently this one wasn't even supposed to be a rape scene, since no one later acknowledges it. So it was just very bad screenwriting. In the books, they just have sex there.

- The rape of Craster's daughters by the mutineers was a little too explicit and exploitative for my taste. Gratuitous and unnecessary to show it like that.


Everything else (as far as I remember) was sort of acceptable to me, cause it made sense in the story and / or wasn't too gratuitous.

All of the mentioned rape scenes was really done to show something.

The Daenerys scene was made to show, that she was really a thing being bought. Drogo did not care about her. The scene showed, that she was not in a good place and that she had to do something to improve her position. If they had only showed the scene, where her "wounds" were bandaged, it would not have the same effect.

The Cersei scenes shows that the relationship between Cersei and Jaime, is going very bad and that Jaime, in his fight to stay faithful to the woman he loves, is getting very frustrated. It really concluded the entire scenario, where Jaime just wanted to make Cersie happy, but nothing went well and since she would not reward him for his hard work, he took it in frustration.

And the rape of the Craster daughters were just to show the savage nature the men of the nights watch had decended into. By having sex, they had thrown away their vow to the nights watch.

We can maybe dicuss about if they had to show as much as they did, but that it happend was really not a bad thing for the storytelling.

[Mehrunes]

No-one of huge, significant importance died in S2 so it seems odd to me that was the season that broke the camel's back.

And only later seasons introduced deaths that didn't happen in the books, so aiming this criticism at the show seems somewhat misguided.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Whenever I hear about this show it is about some act of violence, sexual or otherwise. I've never heard any one say "This has some great characters/special effects/storylines" or whatever. I can't see who would find that appealling other than 14-year kids into metal or whatever.

Maybe it is the greatest story ever told, I don't know, but that's the way it is marketed and presented by its fan, which is what I was getting at, not the actual content. The few times I leafed through the book it didn't seem that bad but I wasn't motivated to continue with it.

I will say this definitely because I was motivated to check this out: the dragons look really shit. Why are they the size of poodles?

I'm calling bullshit.

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They can't remove the boobs or violence from GoT because..... what will be left?

That's like it's entire appeal.

[provaporous]

Scenes I found unnecessary:

- Danaerys being raped by Drogo. Wasn't like that in the books, and it makes no sense that she would be severely raped for quite a while and then suddenly go "oh I'll change this" and then fall deeply in love with him. The book version made a lot more sense.

- Cersei being raped by Jaimie under Joffrey's dead body. Apparently this one wasn't even supposed to be a rape scene, since no one later acknowledges it. So it was just very bad screenwriting. In the books, they just have sex there.

- The rape of Craster's daughters by the mutineers was a little too explicit and exploitative for my taste. Gratuitous and unnecessary to show it like that.


Everything else (as far as I remember) was sort of acceptable to me, cause it made sense in the story and / or wasn't too gratuitous.

the first 2 are film interpretations, but the third is absurd.
Its the frozen North, they are all criminals, there is no law around, they had just broken their oaths if i remember correctly, so they were most likely fucked anyway. its midevil times and there did exist a sort of "rape culture" historically speaking.