Russia's foreign minister warns Sweden off Nato

[Polyxo]

Unforseen twist: Russia joins NATO

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Unforseen twist: Russia joins NATO

After it breaks apart in to pieces, sure.

[shadowmouse]

Russia's foreign minister warns Sweden off Nato

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Warning people about natto is understandable!

[Marcellus1986]

Erm... Have you heard NATO talking about Russia lately. They really aren't using diplomacy at all.

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There's only one delusional field of buttercups. And its the one you or anyone thinking Russia will attack EU is firmly planted on.

Cool story. Russia's actions over the past 2-3 years seem to support my world view. Not yours.

[Slant]

Erm... Have you heard NATO talking about Russia lately. They really aren't using diplomacy at all.

That tends to happen when you start annexing regions like Crimea. The last time the world community was quiet about a country annexing regions was when Germany annexed Bohemia et all back into the Empire. Didn't turn out to be a good strategy to shut up and let Germany do what they want.

[Breccia]

Sweden has a zero percent chance of invading Russia under basically any conditions. Russia building up their forces to stop the Swedes is pointless to the point of insanity.

Now the Finns...that, they should be scared of.

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That tends to happen when you start annexing regions like Crimea. The last time the world community was quiet about a country annexing regions was when Germany annexed Bohemia et all back into the Empire. Didn't turn out to be a good strategy to shut up and let Germany do what they want.

Germany should demand Prussia back, all of it. And Silesia, and Konigsberg, especially Konigsberg.

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Germany should demand Prussia back, all of it. And Silesia, and Konigsberg, especially Konigsberg.

After the Russians had it? Nah man, they can keep that piece of trash. It's ruined now. Or give it to Poland. I mean it's surrounded by Poland anyway, it makes sense for them to get it and incorporate it into their natural borders. Far more sense than having a German enclave again.

[Aggrophobic]

Threats like this are a bit stupid though. It'll make a lot of Swedes consider NATO as good alternative to that "big bully" in the east.
Russia would have been better off saying nothing.

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Threats like this are a bit stupid though. It'll make a lot of Swedes consider NATO as good alternative to that "big bully" in the east.
Russia would have been better off saying nothing.

Most of all that comes out of the Kremlin in regards to foreign policy (both words and actions) is, ultimately, targeting the domestic audience. A blunt way to put it is that Putin wants Westerners to fear and hate Russia, and vice versa. Provocation leads to condemnation, leads to further animosity. No matter who's at fault or what's the nature of it, provocation of any kind in any scenario ultimately serves Putin's interest of channelling Russia's hate/fear towards the foreign.

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After the Russians had it? Nah man, they can keep that piece of trash. It's ruined now. Or give it to Poland. I mean it's surrounded by Poland anyway, it makes sense for them to get it and incorporate it into their natural borders. Far more sense than having a German enclave again.

LOL that's also true, imagining the amount of raised taxes the restoration of all the reclaimed territory would take, it would bankrupt Germany faster than Greece.

[Slant]

LOL that's also true, imagining the amount of raised taxes the restoration of all the reclaimed territory would take, it would bankrupt Germany faster than Greece.

Well, we could do it. We've done the same with the whole lot of Eastern Germany. But why would we do it? German Russians are a notoriously aggressive bunch of fucked up kids outright refusing to integrate. I mean people are talking about Muslims integrating and how refugees don't fit in here... but German Russians? They make every refugee Muslim look like a model citizen.

Bankrupt us? Nope. But there's absolutely 0 public support for importing Russians like that.

[Uzkin]

Speaking for Finland, really hope we won't. I have no interest in seeing my sons potentially sent off to some war the Americans decide to start where-ever. There's no point for Russia to attack us as we are, if there ever was a larger conflict (like happened in WW2) where we ended up on different sides NATO couldn't do shit for us anyways.

We're a tiny country next to a huge one, our economy depends on being friends with Russia. To join NATO and piss them off would be idiotic.

Exactly this. Joining NATO would be absolutely, utterly stupid; it would cost us money, make us a more prominent target for all kinds of terrorists, could drag us into some far-away conflict, and would be a hostile act against our biggest neighbor, freezing bilateral relations and causing us massive economic and other kind of damage. Luckily, the majority of the Finnish people are intelligent enough to say no to NATO.

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That tends to happen when you start annexing regions like Crimea. The last time the world community was quiet about a country annexing regions was when Germany annexed Bohemia et all back into the Empire. Didn't turn out to be a good strategy to shut up and let Germany do what they want.

There's "condemning" and there's "throwing petrol on fire".

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Strong man Gabriel would rather FIGHT TO THE DEATH in a 15 year long war. After all he does it everyday on call of duty. Its not THAT different isn't it?

Ha ha ha yeah these arm-chair warriors are so tough


Russia already has IKEA, no reason to invade.

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Threats like this are a bit stupid though. It'll make a lot of Swedes consider NATO as good alternative to that "big bully" in the east.
Russia would have been better off saying nothing.

The threat comes from Sweden, if it adds itself to an anti-Russian hostile military alliance, Russia is just informing that it will add Swe to list of countries it will need to counter to ensure Russia stays secure. Sweden can choose to remain neutral and most people seem to favor that, so there is no real threat methinks. Ofc the Russophobes will twist words n try to make it seems like Russia is reacting for no reason.

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Lavrov? Wasnt that the crazy Russian clown who wants to bring back the Soviet Union and has no real power to threaten anyone?

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Lavrov? Wasnt that the crazy Russian clown who wants to bring back the Soviet Union and has no real power to threaten anyone?

You must watch some really fucked up media.

Must be western media.

[Aggrophobic]

Ha ha ha yeah these arm-chair warriors are so tough


Russia already has IKEA, no reason to invade.

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The threat comes from Sweden, if it adds itself to an anti-Russian hostile military alliance, Russia is just informing that it will add Swe to list of countries it will need to counter to ensure Russia stays secure. Sweden can choose to remain neutral and most people seem to favor that, so there is no real threat methinks. Ofc the Russophobes will twist words n try to make it seems like Russia is reacting for no reason.

Call it what you will but saying things like this will make more swedes see Russia as an actuall threat. It might work as propaganda at home but it has the opposite effect in the west. Not sure it's the way to go.

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Cool story. Russia's actions over the past 2-3 years seem to support my world view. Not yours.

That's ok. People believe in all sort of factless crazy shit. Bearded men in the sky, virgins in heaven, alien reptiloids... You think Russia can actually invade Europe, Its a free world.

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Call it what you will but saying things like this will make more swedes see Russia as an actuall threat. It might work as propaganda at home but it has the opposite effect in the west. Not sure it's the way to go.

Stop propaganda talks affect your judgement? On both sides that is.

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Ha ha ha yeah these arm-chair warriors are so tough


Russia already has IKEA, no reason to invade.

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The threat comes from Sweden, if it adds itself to an anti-Russian hostile military alliance, Russia is just informing that it will add Swe to list of countries it will need to counter to ensure Russia stays secure. Sweden can choose to remain neutral and most people seem to favor that, so there is no real threat methinks. Ofc the Russophobes will twist words n try to make it seems like Russia is reacting for no reason.

...? Russophobes? What the fuck, lmao.