Trump protesters get violent in CA

[BuckSparkles]

I understand that half of what Trump says he'll do he can't or won't do, banning Muslims, tagging Muslims, building a Mexican paid wall, beyond waterboarding torture, but I don't understand why people want to vote for him. He knows a lot of that is unconstitutional so I take him as a liar. Almost as bad as Hillary. They are all corrupt bigots, smh. 350 million in this country and we have to choose between two of the worst people to run the country...

"Bigot" isn't something I care about. Rather have a society of free speech and occasional assholes than a society of political correctness and forced tolerance. I know the left thinks bigots are the worst thing imaginable, but corruption speaks volumes higher.

Clinton is political corruption incarnate. That puts her far lower than Trump or Cruz.

If you had a candidate that 100% of his policies would benefit America, but he was not a fan of a certain race, would that really be such an issue?

[TZucchini]

The "Let's build a wall/fence and stop the mexicans!" isn't a new idea in America.

I'm not sure why you keep leaving out the "and make Mexico pay for it." That's obviously the aspect unique to Trump.

[Skillslam]

SJWs think when you put labels on people it gives you free reign to do whatever you want to them.

Sortof like stars of david eh?

[Dug]

I'm not sure why you keep leaving out the "and make Mexico pay for it." That's obviously the aspect unique to Trump.

Because it's never going to happen so why even acknowledge it? The concept is "build a wall" which has been a thing for awhile now. The how is kind of irrelevant.

[Barnabas]

I'm not sure why you keep leaving out the "and make Mexico pay for it." That's obviously the aspect unique to Trump.

Honestly it won't get funded completely by anyone. It would receive little to no funding. So if latins are upset over the wall it's a really stupid point considering the fence only got one stage of funding and was only a few miles.

[Cthulhu 2020]

No, he didn't.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/us...epts.html?_r=0

Your article talks about how they're loosening the restrictions on accessing information gathered from out of country. i.e. did jack shit to prove your point.

Domestically, they've done a lot to reign in the scope of the NSA.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ms-speech-live

And please remember that I said nothing about ending it.

But AGAIN (getting back to my original point, considering people like to launch on tangents when they're shown to be wrong), a lot of what he has done in the way of good things affects your life far more than that uncomfy feeling you get that that conversation you had about smoking pot exists in some NSA data warehouse. Words have translated into action over the last 7 years, despite your insistence that it hasn't.

[Pangean]

"Bigot" isn't something I care about. Rather have a society of free speech and occasional assholes than a society of political correctness and forced tolerance. I know the left thinks bigots are the worst thing imaginable, but corruption speaks volumes higher.

Clinton is political corruption incarnate. That puts her far lower than Trump or Cruz.

So Trump who has admitted to paying off politicians is somehow not corruption incarnate?

[TZucchini]

Because it doesn't matter at all. The wall is what is egregious and ridiculous, not making Mexico pay for it.

You don't think trying to force a sovereign nation, who also happens to be one of our biggest trading partners, to pay for a wall that we're building, to be ridiculous?

It's literally one of his dumbest ideas.

[Pangean]

SJWs think when you put labels on people it gives you free reign to do whatever you want to them.

Sortof like stars of david eh?

Uh no. Or perhaps you don't really understand the difference?

[BuckSparkles]

So Trump who has admitted to paying off politicians is somehow not corruption incarnate?

In that situation, I would say the payer is not as bad as the payee.

A business man was looking out for a business. The politician let themselves be bought.

[dd614]

Trump is a populist-nationalist. He isn't totally right or left-wing. He is somewhere in the middle, taking points from both. Pretty much exactly what America needs.

[Skillslam]

Because it doesn't matter at all. The wall is what is egregious and ridiculous, not making Mexico pay for it.

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Good job, you brought up Nazi's in an internet discussion. You're so original.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post40078064

Bigots like yourself are so willfully blind


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[BuckSparkles]

Trump is a populist-nationalist. He isn't totally right or left-wing. He is somewhere in the middle, taking points from both. Pretty much exactly what America needs.

I would agree he is more moderate then people realize.

I had one of my roomates try and tell me Trump was more conservative than Cruz. I laughed at them.

[dd614]

In that situation, I would say the payer is not as bad as the payee.

A business man was looking out for a business. The politician let themselves be bought.

And in the case of the Clintons, every foreign dictatorship has given money to their foundation to buy influence.

[Cthulhu 2020]

You don't think trying to force a sovereign nation, who also happens to be one of our biggest trading partners, to pay for a wall that we're building, to be ridiculous?

It's literally one of his dumbest ideas.

Emphasis this. Mexico is not only our third largest trading partner, they're also our most important ally. Being on our southern border, if we were to sour our relations with them, and Russia or China took advantage of that to sweet talk Mexico, we'd be in shit.

Trump's wall idea is stupid on so many levels. That people want to risk massive detriment to economy and national security because they're afraid of some field workers... just fuck the idiots that want to do this.

[TwoNineMarine]

That tolerant left though.

Lololololololololololololololololol

[dd614]

I would agree he is more moderate then people realize.

I had one of my roomates try and tell me Trump was more conservative than Cruz. I laughed at them.

I have no time anymore for American conservatism, especially after seeing Ted Cruz and the "Never Trump" GOP media pundits. I used to be a hardcore conservative, but not anymore. I don't want to be associated with people who throw a temper tantrum and say they'll vote Hillary because someone dared question George W Bush's legacy.

[BuckSparkles]

I have no time anymore for American conservatism, especially after seeing Ted Cruz and the "Never Trump" GOP media pundits. I used to be a hardcore conservative, but not anymore. I don't want to be associated with people who throw a temper tantrum and say they'll vote Hillary because someone dared question George W Bush's legacy.

I hear you on that. I could go a little more towards the center if that ends up being beneficial.

Conservatives sharply lose me at religion. So being a nonreligious conservative puts me in an awkward position.

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Again, it doesn't actually matter. I don't understand why you are so stuck on making mexico pay for it being stupid, when the idea of the wall is SO MUCH STUPIDER.

Nah, the wall isn't stupid. Making Mexico pay for it is kind of questionable.

[Skillslam]

That was before i even entered the thread.

Herpderp.

So you admit to not even reading the thread before coming in to drop troll bombs

[BuckSparkles]

So you admit to not even reading the thread before coming in to drop troll bombs

How is Boomzy trolling? I have not seen any trolling from them.