What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
Robert Byrd isn't in the fucking KKK. He hasn't been since 1952. Posting a meme like that means you didn't check your facts, just like Donald Trump doesn't.
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Compared to conservatives who have actually destroyed parts of this country? Yeah I will take my chances with Democrats. The governor of Michigan destroying Flint's water pipes, Bush and the 3 Senators that made the Graham-Leach-Bliley act that caused the housing bubble and recession of 2007. If you don't call those people Anti-American, I don't know what is.
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When the candidate is trying to make racist policy, then that tends to get the votes from the racists. Which is why Trump will lose in November. There aren't enough racist white people to make him win.
The KKK has been nothing but a meme for the last 30 years. People jumped up and down when ex-KKK David Duke said positive things about Trump while the same people were silent on ex-KKK Robert Byrd endorsing the clintons and some even making excuses saying oh he was their GD in the 40's. The KKK during Byrds time however was not a meme and they were oppressing blacks with fear and violence in that age so I am not sure how it can be dismissed so easily.
A lot of people here would be too young to know that in 2000 when Trump was tapped to become a third parties nominee that he pulled out when that party brought in David Duke. Citing that David Duke is a 'racist and bigot' and that he did not want to be associated with him. Tried to find the image on my hard drive of that but I have over 30k images so its lost
Also as a reminder here are some Trump protesters that half of the people here probably support...
I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it.
The difference being Duke is still a white supremacist and anti-semite. Byrd on the other hand acknowledged how stupid he was and apologized repeatedly for being a member.
""I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."
"“Voting for these people, voting against Donald Trump at this point, is really treason to your heritage,”
Can you guess who said what?
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
It was more the fact that he did back in 2000. He did 3 days prior to being asked as well as disavowing same day and the next day and a week after that if I recall. When I see the video where he hesitates etc it just looks to me that his earpiece was being stuffed with.
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I don't really understand why you bothered replying with that in all honesty. What David Duke thinks has no bearing on Trump in the least. Robert Byrd was the GD during a period when the KKK was an actual problem, committing violence against blacks and jews. Its like a death row inmate saying 'I know now I was wrong'. It really doesn't matter in my eyes but I guess it does in yours and thats ok. We all have different opinions and some people choose to forgive others based on their own bias, that's life.
I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it.
You know when an article starts with this line:
"An African American reporter sat down with the Grand Imperial Wizard of the Rebel Brigade Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) to discuss a little politics."
it's going to be a great article, what a world
I'm just surprised Trump himself wasn't the KKK Grand Imperial Wizard all along - or maybe he is and that's the big reveal after the election, the prestige
Having said that, isn't KKK endorsement the same as political sabotage?
Why because you compared the support of Duke to the support of Byrd. Byrd renounced what he did. Duke is still a white supremacist. I know it doesn't matter to you. You are a Trump supporter after all. What Duke believes now doesn't matter. What Bryd used to believe does. Classic Trump supporter at that.
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
Oh boy.
I couldn't care less about construing the argument in my favor as a Trump supporter as there is no need to, its just hypocritical in my opinion and hence I will call it out. What is not sinking in for you is that it does not matter that Byrd renounced it. He was the GD during the height of the KKK so its just redundant for reasons I already said. Again, Trump denounced David Duke many times over the years and recently during this cycle multiple times. DD liking Trump has nothing to do with Trump's campaign. At least Trump disavowed Duke multiple times, still waiting for Ted Cruz to disavow the endorsement last year of priest Mike Bickle who has said gays should be killed and that Nazi's were a god sent gift. Imagine if he endorsed Trump the media will still be running cycles about it. David Duke didn't even endorsed Trump in the first place which he said so himself and look at the media uproar it created.
This latest crap is just that - crap. Desperation of the media and haters because Trump is at 1002 delegates and WILL become the nominee. Bernie will not be nominated and Hillary has no chance to beat him even though the media will be shilling for her 24/7. The only chance she would have is to refuse to debate him during the ~6 month period.
Still not sure why you feel the need to reply but I'll defend myself regardless.
I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it.
a couple weeks ago some kkk member came out in support of Hillary most of the members of the regressive left on this forum came rushing to her defense saying "She has no control over who supports her" a couple weeks latter one comes out in support of trump those same people are here now saying "see Trumps a racist"
so fucking hilarious
or so fucking sad
I'm not really sure which
SO FUCKING WHAT!!! You liberals on the left act as though no questionable people are supporting your views. Lets see Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, ties to Frank Marshall Davis, The Black Panthers, just to name a few. The fact that some crazy supports one of the political candidates mean absolutely DICK!! Give it a fucking rest already. If you get Trump or Hillary stating they praise these types of endorsements then that would be news until then, this is not news.
Whether he gets the nomination is yet to be seen as it might very well go to someone else, even if he does win the primaries. As for Hillary having no chance to beat him, mind explaining what makes you so sure? His debating skills are laughably poor, and he can't really insult his way out of debates when the time comes whereas Hillary has far more experience than him to fall for those tactics.
While Hillary's appeal isn't that great, Trump isn't winning any favours and is doing terribly except for polls tailored specifically for targeting his desired demographic. It would be different if he actually took some time to go into detail on his policies among his insults, but he's too busy mud-slinging to even bother.
"It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all outta ass."
I'm a British gay Muslim Pakistani American citizen, ask me how that works! (terribly)
I don't see how you can back this up. Duke said each of the following on his radio show in February:
“Voting for these people, voting against Donald Trump at this point, is really treason to your heritage.”
"I’m not saying I endorse everything about Trump. In fact, I haven’t formally endorsed him. But I do support his candidacy, and I support voting for him as a strategic action. I hope he does everything we hope he will do.”
“And I am telling you that it is your job now to get active. Get off your duff. Get off your rear end that’s getting fatter and fatter for many of you everyday on your chairs. When this show’s over, go out, call the Republican Party, but call Donald Trump’s headquarters, volunteer. They’re screaming for volunteers. Go in there, you’re gonna meet people who are going to have the same kind of mind-set that you have.”
So, he:
a) said he will vote for Trump
b) encouraged others to vote for Trump
c) called voting against Trump treason to...well it's his radio show, so basically being white
d) told his listeners to volunteer to help Trump
e) suggested to his listeners, who are intentionally listening to David Duke's radio show, that the people volunteering at Trump headquarters will have the same mindset. (ouch)
Endorse: a) to approve openly <endorse an idea>; especially : to express support or approval of publicly and definitely <endorse a mayoral candidate>
b) to recommend (as a product or service) usually for financial compensation <shoes endorsed by a pro basketball player>
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David Duke 100% expressed support and approval of Trump's candidacy, and he did so publicly and definitively. He also 100% recommended it, though I highly doubt it was for financial compensation. In fact, the only way David Duke did not endorse Donald Trump was in the sense he didn't write his name on Donald Trump's back. You know, like a check.
Now I'm still in the camp of "Donald Trump is not guilty because assholes like David Duke endorse him". And he did disavow Duke and the KKK almost every time. So it's largely irrelevant. But yes, Duke did endorse Trump by every applicable sense of the word. Why he says he didn't "formally" is beyond me.
I dislike Trump and I'm not fond of Hillary, but using who is supporting whom as a tactic to reflect on the candidates character in an effort to discredit them is pretty juvenile. It's not just the "regressive left" that's guilty of this though, conservative Republicans are equally culpable.
"It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all outta ass."
I'm a British gay Muslim Pakistani American citizen, ask me how that works! (terribly)
Yeah it does matter that he renounced it. If DD liking Trump has nothing to do with Trump's campaign, then Byrd should have nothing to do with Clinton's right? But you keep implying that it does...cuz. Cruz not doing something is meaningless to this. He is as vile as Trump is. Trump disavowing Duke? Sort of like this?
"Well, just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke. okay? I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So, I don't know."
""I don't know any -- honestly, I don't know David Duke. I don't believe I have ever met him. I'm pretty sure I didn't meet him. And I just don't know anything about him."
Trump did indeed disavow Duke which made these claims even more bizarre.
Duke said this: "Voting for these people, voting against Donald Trump at this point, is really treason to your heritage,”. He didn't endorse him, he just said you should vote for him. Totally different am I right?
Defending yourself? Victim mentality much?
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
grand imperial wizard? how old are they? 10?
Formerly known as Arafal