Not me, but for the love of God, guys, DO NOT BM AT THE ENEMY CORE! Grubby just hard-threw a game on stream. xD
Not me, but for the love of God, guys, DO NOT BM AT THE ENEMY CORE! Grubby just hard-threw a game on stream. xD
All hail the great matchmaker! For without which we would not have been treated to the 220-games Raynor on his 8th Hero League game ever.
It was amazing. Me as Nova and others were: Lili, Rexxar, Artanis and Thrall. I had dced at the start due to a fire incident. I was only gone for a few minutes but it was enough to give the AI 2 talent choices. It of course chooses weird shit; the stealth mana regen and the decoy range increase. So I just stuck with my normal formula after that at first, I got OitC and precision strike. We were just getting stomped by the opponent (Lili, Leoric, Tracer, Morales and Arthas.) It was just too hard to get to the backline to kill morales or lili without tracer jumping my bone. So i went double tap, lethal decoy and ghost protocol. Don't laugh but GP saved my ass from several ganks and it allowed me to jump the back and escape. And in the end the range on decoy got me a lili kill. She fountained and stayed behind her wall but i knew she wouldn't go far, so I launched it right next to where i thought she would be and 3 hits later she popped. Right after that we steamrolled the middle lane and won.
I'm a thread killer.
pretty much had the best game in recent memory a few minutes ago
went up against a coordinated 5 man (Zag/Lili/Anub/Valla/Azmo and my 2 man (Malf/Azmo) and 3 man (Lili/Valla/Dehaka) on Immortals
it was just a see saw back and forth and ultimately it was my Mule and Twilight Dream, and my friends Bribe taking merc camps during objectives that pushed to victory
fuck it felt so satisfying and I almost dont want to play anymore because the MMR god will punish me like a naughty catholic
"It's 2013 and I still view the internet on a 560x192 resolution monitor!"
My team is TLV, Zagara, Gazlowe, Chen and Li Li vs Chen, Zerrigan, Li Ming, Tyrande, Zagara... WP matchmaking.
Didn't even get one fort down with 3 specialists
Last edited by Zelendria; 2016-05-01 at 10:05 PM.
I can't remember the last time I saw something this bad for a "balanced" match. Everyone was rank 9 and 10.
For the record, the draft-order was Zeratul - then Muis and I - then Nova and Murky. Our team refused to do a single thing to prevent that from happening. I tried convincing them in chat Kael and Tychus was a bad idea. No one ever said a word, they just insta-locked. I was the only one contesting Murky's splitpushing. Uther did too a few times but what could he do as a healer. Kael and Tychus died over and over again from standing out in the middle of the map with 20% hp. Nova and Zeratul could take anyone they wanted, our two morons didn't even try. Throughout the entire match, only Uther spoke. Kael never said a word, Tychus never said a word. They kept going out alone and dying.
This is why placement matches should not be a thing. The system worked "fine" before. Everyone started at rank 50, and to actually get to rank 10 you had to experience all this double-stealth bullshit many times over if you were actually at these two guys' skill level.
Just had a really sick ToD match.
Muradin / LiLi / Sonya / Murky / Sylvanas
vs
Dehaka / Uther / Thrall / KT / Nova
And our Murky also DC'd and was a bot in the first 16 mins.
After 16 mins the score was 4-24. We had 10 kills versus their 27. But then our Murky returned!
In a hilarious turn of events we managed to reach 1-14, at 20 mins. We where almost killed there, but luckily we got one tower just seconds before the shoot, so we survived!
1-0 and we won at 24 mins.
And the highest damage dealer on our team was Li Li.
This way, way too sketchy.
Well my match was lost in draft, not even funny.
We get a last prepick ETC, which is quite ok. Then he says i will heal, halfway through the draft.
Ok, ETC probably wouldve been hard to land moshes on because of Li-Ming (wave of force) or Tyrande (Lunar Flare), so the pick above him goes Muradin.
Well.... Etc starts flipping out about why the muradin pick.
Guess what, he ment to say he'dtake the healing talent on 13 for the group heals.
And to make it worse, this guy only has Tassadar as support.
Solo supp Tass against burst comp, where he doesnt take the shield talent (Khala's Embrace?) at 7 >.>
The first versions of the system started you out at rank 50, you had to climb you didn't lose any points till 40. This made it a whole better since people actually had to play a good amount of games before they ended up at rank 20 and below. Right now it's a mess, wait till you end up getting paired repeatedly with placements and lose massively rank wise, your opinion will change about this system fast if you are someone who plays often.
That draft was fine tbh. You have two tanks which helps against the stealthies because they're not viable targets and both have a long stun. Tychus absolutely destroys Murky in lane and is pretty good against Diablo as well. They didn't have a healer so the poke damage from KT would be awesome. You had cleanse/dshield for octos. You were also very heavy on CC. That being said, if people are playing retarded as you explain that means you'll lose no matter how good your comp is, but if you'd ask me to blindly bet on a winner between these two comps I would've definitely went for yours.
Why would you force someone to play a "good amount of games" to reach rank 20 if their skill level is obviously rank 20 or better from the get go? In the old system you had everyone starting at 50 which meant both the noobiest players in the game as well as the top pro players in the world are grinding from 50 to 1, which just resulted in a lot of confusion because the matchmaker still made matches based on MMR as it does now. Players would get a completely different picture because that rank 40 guy on their team might actually be the highest MMR player even though they're rank 10 themselves. That just caused a lot of people to complain about either the matchmaker being bad (which wasn't the case, but that was the impression they got from seeing such high disparities between the ranks and not realizing that people were getting matched on MMR and not ranks) and ranks not meaning a lot (which was also true because there was no way to tell what rank someone was approximately until they plateaud wherever they belonged, which took way longer than it does now unless you're horrible at the game). The only thing that changed about the system is that you now get close to where you belong rank wise much faster, which clears up a lot of confusion about ranks. Perhaps MMR also inflates and deflates faster during your placement matches, which is also fine and for the better. Matchmaking is still done purely on MMR.
Last edited by Lesane; 2016-05-02 at 11:05 PM.
oh yea, when the draft was finished I felt like we won that draft, pretty hard too in a way, eventho they could've taken safer heroes.
Thing is tho, if you take a squishy like KT or even Tychus (which doesnt has FA nor a shield talent) against 2 stealths, you need to know how to safely position yourself and be aware of them (i often Q'ed into them at obvious bushes or W'ed them out of stealth as ETC). Thing is tho, they were playing bad, KT hanging around or walking from mid to bot lane with 20% hp while either Nova or Zera was up. Shit like that.
Not to mention, as you might see in chat, that every time I landed a mosh (atleast 2-3 people in there, including 1 stealth target) - our KT/Tychus didn't do any dmg (or enough to kill).
Heck, they were practically the same hero dmg as me as ETC and less then Erix as Dehaka.
I disagree with people belonging at R10 just because they won their first 4-5 hero league matches in a row. Because that's what I've already seen today :/
Last edited by Muis; 2016-05-02 at 11:42 PM.
Just had an amazing HL game on Towers of Doom. It started off bumpy (a guy picking Murky after I've already picked Abathur), but the rest of the team was fine - Muradin, Uther and Falstad. Enemies were Diablo, Brightwing, Greymane, KaelThas, Xul.
What followed, though, was a decimaton of enemy team through pure skill and tactical decisions. No level difference, no bursty pickoffs. Just good old prolonged teamfights. Our Muradin was a rowdy bunch, and constantly picked fights with enemies - in lanes, between lanes, on camps. These sometimes went for half a minute or so, and attracted the whole team. Most of the time we won such encounters.
One time, we were having a hard time at the middle altar, but then my soaking payed off, and we hit lvl10 in the middle of a fight. Immediately an Ultimate Evolution went off, and we snuffed them out one by one and proceeded to capture the objective.
Last teamfight at the bottom altar was the most glorious moment of the match (and probably last couple of months). It started very badly, with Muradin dying on his own in the enemy backline, and Falstad backing off at 10% hp. Enemy team was mostly at 60% hp. What followed after was a pure miracle. Uther and Murky started running around and interrupting the objective, somehow remaining alive. Murky went into the backline, managed to kill Kaelthas and scare away Greymane and Xul at 10% hp. Nobody was trying to channel the objective, I must add. Uther meanwhile distracted Brightwing and Diablo, and healed murky. Together (plus me as a hat) we managed to hold them off until Falstad reengaged the fight, and then we finished off everyone, thanks to the Envenomed Spikes' slow at lvl16. Then we took the boss (with vietnam level mine coverage around the area for added protection) and won the game. So satisfying.
absolutely surreal games today
>nova picking up the talent to run faster. proceeds to do just that all game.
>dehaka only tunneling in AFTER our team is pushed back. gets bursted down by vulnerabilities.
>down one talent but lets fight for that tribute. they wouldnt get a curse with it but we're too dumb to know mechanics.
>team sitting mid in cursed hallow for i swear like over 3 minutes. nobody is top and i'm bot getting xp. we go from half a level down to two levels down.
>close game. one person decides to push mid in towers, right next to the teleport thing, all by themselves. so now we're down one and they take the towers for the win.
>nova picking triple tap versus two fat, fat tanks. only used it like twice all game anyway.
>diablo making sure to only cast his stun ultimate when the enemy team has ample time to dodge it.
>leoric coming back to life alone, in the middle of the entire enemy team, when we're all too far away to do anything about it. multiple times.
>team using everything on murky, as always.
>nobody. fucking. soaking. ever. bring that pvp map cause people are already trying that stuff.
I'll up my offer, a month's salary to have BHB removed from the pool or at least force everyone to watch a guide on how to play it.
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Annnnd 3 losses in a row because our last pick didn't want to heal, and picked nova instead.
I am the lucid dream
Uulwi ifis halahs gag erh'ongg w'ssh