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    Legion - Artifact Trait and Respec Costs, Kirin Tor Ring, Tweets, Blood DK Preview

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    Legion - Artifact Respec Cost
    In Legion, you can go back and change the tree you are filling out for your Artifact weapon if you change your mind. While you eventually may be able to fill out the entire tree, doing so will take some time.

    The current cost to respec your artifact is however much the next trait or rank would cost you. If your next trait costs 525 Artifact Power, you will need to earn 525 Artifact Power to unlearn and regain the Artifact Power you previously spent.



    Legion - Artifact Trait Costs
    In Legion, each artifact has a tree of traits you can unlock with multiple ranks per trait for some of the traits. The chart below shows the Artifact Power cost for each rank. Keep in mind that this isn't finalized and values can be placeholders.

    The Artifact power cost increases per total ranks you have purchased. For example, if you fill out 3 Artifact powers with a total of 3 ranks each, the next rank or trait will cost you 525 Artifact Power. The same applies if you just filled out 9 Artifact powers with 1 rank each.

    Right now the second through 11th ranks have an increase in cost of 25 Artifact Power per rank, but after that it becomes exponentially more expensive.

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    Legion - Empowered Ring of the Kirin Tor
    The Kirin Tor rings may be returning in Legion! Sminx Glasseye sells the Empowered Ring of the Kirin Tor for 50,000. The vendor currently belongs to the old Kirin Tor faction, so it is possible there will be reputation discounts.

    Currently the ring has Intellect, unlike all of the other Legion rings and neck items. It is possible that this is just an oversight and the final ring will have Stamina instead.



    Blue Tweets
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Classes
    Has anyone heard of an official announcement, that gnome hunters will be playable in Legion pre-patch? Google was giving me no answers.
    Yep! (Muffinus)

    Art
    Draenei male's weapons are not scaling properly in Legion alpha. Id post an ingame screenshot, but...
    We're on it. Should look better in a coming build. (WarcraftDevs)

    World Quests
    Re;World Quests. Are there a cap on how many world quests can be up in a zone at any given time in Legion?
    If yes, does that mean a profession quest could potentially bump out a non-professional quest?

    Prof. quests are deemed lower priority, if one tries to spawn in an occupied spot, it will try to spawn elsewhere (Muffinus)

    PvE
    mythic + dungeons will the be available at launch or delayed like raids?
    Current thinking: Mythic dungeons available right away; scaling keystone system unlocks alongside raiding. (WarcraftDevs)

    Will Mythic Dungeons and the scaling have matchmaking or must you put groups together yourself?
    Just as on live today, players must form groups for Legion Mythics. The Premade Group Finder is great for this. (WarcraftDevs)

    Lore
    Hello sir. Do you know if Sargeras is technically dead? I believe he is, since his spirit was attached to an avatar that was
    As of now, we don't know. (Muffinus)

    Reputation / Questing
    Do these new tapping rules apply just to Legion content, or also to pre-Legion content?
    The entire world (Muffinus)

    Wait so up to 5 non grouped people can tag 1 mob and get individual exp and loot?
    Yes (Muffinus)

    I can't post on the forums but wht happens to the grey loot that drops? Will a random be able to steal it from you? -
    Everything is personal loot, even the old world. No fighting for greys. (Muffinus)
    I assume old-world doesn't have any fancy mob scaling like in Legion though? Just the open tag/personal loot feature?
    Correct (Muffinus)

    Why don't rares have this HP scaling mechanic anymore? Devs seem to drop it in WOD rares comp to MOP rares.
    They should, if they're missing a scaling record, it's a bug (Muffinus)

    Ghostcrawler Tweets
    Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.
    Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
    Hey Greg, you don't work at Blizzard anymore but you surely have thoughts about Nostalrius and the whole debate?
    I've been asked this a lot. I'm not going to pick a side about who is right or wrong because it's probably not that simple (OccupyGStreet)
    I definitely feel for the players who lost something. (OccupyGStreet)
    But I'm sure Blizzard had good reasons. Maybe they had to protect their IP, because you can lose it if you do not. IDK. (OccupyGStreet)
    I think most of you know that one thing Blizzard and I do disagree on is how much you should communicate with players. (OccupyGStreet)
    What is your stance if I can ask?
    I try to be as transparent with players as I possibly can be. (OccupyGStreet)
    Blizzard had a different philosophy, which is fine. I don't begrudge them that. (OccupyGStreet)

    Since the Nostalrius thing came up, what is your stance on bringing back vanilla servers officially. Sorry if asked before.
    Philosophically, if it was my game, I would think it was cool to try. But that still doesn't make it easy. (OccupyGStreet)
    Technical challenges are massive. Players won't accept "We aren't going to fix bugs on some servers." It's always "Just this one?" (OccupyGStreet)



    Final Boss - Blood Death Knight Spec Preview
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    Do these new tapping rules apply just to Legion content, or also to pre-Legion content?
    The entire world (Muffinus)

    Wait so up to 5 non grouped people can tag 1 mob and get individual exp and loot?
    Yes (Muffinus)

    I can't post on the forums but wht happens to the grey loot that drops? Will a random be able to steal it from you? -
    Everything is personal loot, even the old world. No fighting for greys. (Muffinus)


    This actively excites me.

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    Just as on live today, players must form groups for Legion Mythics

    I really wish they would reconsider this, what's the problem having LFG for this, people that don't like LFG can still form there own group or do guild runs like today, this way everybody wins.

    Sorry but I don't miss the old days spamming trade looking for group, or premade group finder groups asking for overgeared people

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    383.000 Power for the Full Weapon? Nice^^ Lets hope this will take a long long Time to get that much

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermany View Post
    383.000 Power for the Full Weapon? Nice^^ Lets hope this will take a long long Time to get that much
    Actually this is just the last rank, overall its closer to a million right now.
    Personally I like this strategy, gets you a baseline quickly (getting 20 or so should be pretty fast), but maxing out takes effort.

    I do however feel like its still placeholder values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard190 View Post
    Just as on live today, players must form groups for Legion Mythics

    I really wish they would reconsider this, what's the problem having LFG for this, people that don't like LFG can still form there own group or do guild runs like today, this way everybody wins.

    Sorry but I don't miss the old days spamming trade looking for group, or premade group finder groups asking for overgeared people
    You can easily form your own group in the group finder tool now on live and ask for what ever ilvl you wish and all that process that like 5 min max at anytime of the day, and I am rly glad blizzard is sticking to that system and not go for that LFG garbage cause LFG/LFR + Difficulty don't match just like water and oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard190 View Post
    Just as on live today, players must form groups for Legion Mythics

    I really wish they would reconsider this, what's the problem having LFG for this, people that don't like LFG can still form there own group or do guild runs like today, this way everybody wins.

    Sorry but I don't miss the old days spamming trade looking for group, or premade group finder groups asking for overgeared people
    I would agree with you but, the mythic+ dungeons are actually pretty challenging. They're supposed to be ''on par'' with raids on a smaller scale. So to queue for this with random people would be terrible, it'd be like doing raids on hc/mythic when they just released with complete strangers.

    Also i hope blizz isn't going to nerf the artifact power, since the first 20 ranks are easily attainable. I'm not one of those ''back in my day'' but i really love how they put very grindy things into the game, professions are taking forever too to get recipes.

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    Battle.Net Mount and Pet Giveaway - What is this? The link seems to be incorrect; it just goes to the rainbow glyph article from the other day.

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    So that's it then? First race will definitely be run with unbalanced specs, not to mention any offspecs will be sec
    verely limited... Seriously bad choice to make it this way! Maybe they'll give artifacts the same treatment as Legandary items for PvE races?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post
    Actually this is just the last rank, overall its closer to a million right now.
    Personally I like this strategy, gets you a baseline quickly (getting 20 or so should be pretty fast), but maxing out takes effort.

    I do however feel like its still placeholder values.
    even better. Lets hope it stays that way^^ Dont want to get the Full weapon in like a week or so :P Would be nice if even for Hardcore 25/8 Players this would take some months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingbear_grimbatol View Post
    So that's it then? First race will definitely be run with unbalanced specs, not to mention any offspecs will be sec
    verely limited... Seriously bad choice to make it this way! Maybe they'll give artifacts the same treatment as Legandary items for PvE races?
    Why does Blizzard have to give any thought to the top 10 guilds at all? Primary goal should be to make the game fun for 99.9% of people before top guilds.

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    does Blizzard realize that the artifact trait that we least want will cost the most in that system ?? why is the graph exponential and not linear??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingbear_grimbatol View Post
    So that's it then? First race will definitely be run with unbalanced specs, not to mention any offspecs will be sec
    verely limited... Seriously bad choice to make it this way! Maybe they'll give artifacts the same treatment as Legandary items for PvE races?
    You mean like since the game launched?

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    mythic + dungeons will the be available at launch or delayed like raids?
    Current thinking: Mythic dungeons available right away; scaling keystone system unlocks alongside raiding. (WarcraftDevs)

    Eh... this saddens me. More timegating, so the customer doesn't consume the precious content too fast.

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    Total artifact power required to max out the weapon: 1659585.
    Good luck to those who think they will "max" their artifact weapon in 1 month with 25-40 artifact power drops.
    Hopefully these values will be lowered to more reasonable levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okacz View Post
    mythic + dungeons will the be available at launch or delayed like raids?
    Current thinking: Mythic dungeons available right away; scaling keystone system unlocks alongside raiding. (WarcraftDevs)

    Eh... this saddens me. More timegating, so the customer doesn't consume the precious content too fast.
    Yeah, better that they get through it quickly so they have more time to sit around and complain about content droughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard190 View Post
    Just as on live today, players must form groups for Legion Mythics

    I really wish they would reconsider this, what's the problem having LFG for this, people that don't like LFG can still form there own group or do guild runs like today, this way everybody wins.

    Sorry but I don't miss the old days spamming trade looking for group, or premade group finder groups asking for overgeared people
    Because stupid scrubs will whine and cry out for nerfs and bully Blizzard on the forums until they feel forced to comply. Remember the Heroic Dungeon debacle back in Cataclysm?
    These new Mythic Dungeons are supposed to appeal to the hardcore players and I'm glad Blizz are sticking to that philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard190 View Post
    Just as on live today, players must form groups for Legion Mythics

    I really wish they would reconsider this, what's the problem having LFG for this, people that don't like LFG can still form there own group or do guild runs like today, this way everybody wins.

    Sorry but I don't miss the old days spamming trade looking for group, or premade group finder groups asking for overgeared people
    Sorry but that's not the reality of LFG. When you can effortlessly form a group, people aren't as dedicated to playing the game, because they can always find another group. These no-skill low-attention un-dedicated LFG groups also take people away from Premade Groups, so you have a smaller pool of people to form serious groups with. The ideal is that people can form whatever group they want, but that's not the reality of it, because a lot of people will choose the easy way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaceDraccus View Post
    Yeah, better that they get through it quickly so they have more time to sit around and complain about content droughts.
    Somehow it wasn't an issue in BC and WotLK. BC released a crapton of raids and dungeons all at once, all modes unlocked, and throughout the whole expansion people didn't complain about content droughts.

    Timegating is a bad sign for me. It's a way to artificially prolong the content because you know there isn't a lot of it. Worrying about players "burning through content too fast, so we have to restrict them" is like serving the meal in small portions so you can enjoy it for longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isheria View Post
    Total artifact power required to max out the weapon: 1659585.
    Good luck to those who think they will "max" their artifact weapon in 1 month with 25-40 artifact power drops.
    Hopefully these values will be lowered to more reasonable levels.
    Lets hope not. It would be bad if you can get the weapon in just a few days. With a Number that high, it will be assured that we can have fun for a long time.

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