so whats next after Tracer? back to SC heroes?

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Could we see a movie event releasing both Gul'dan or Durotan and Llane or Lothar?

Gul'dan is all destro, can't see him being a demonologist. Archimonde is a better candidate for demo I reckon, though how they'd put it in and effectively differentiate it from Azmodan I'm not sure.

[Oneirophobia]

Please no, Gul'dan was always selfish character.

He never gave a damn about the entire Horde, he exchanged their fates for his own personal gain. He even tried to betray Legion when he went to seek Sargeras' power in Tomb, even in WoD there was a hint of him betraying Legion again with "Gul'dan, you made the pact!". I doubt there is more selfish character in entire Warcraft universe than him. It would make very little sense for Gul'dan to be a support.

He's not really helping, hes converting allies into demonic slaves of the legion

[DeadmanWalking]

He's not helping by that doesn't mean his Smokey Mountain Dew didn't buff up Orc warriors into battle ragers.

[RH92]

He's not really helping, hes converting allies into demonic slaves of the legion

Okay, let's convert a most powerful mortal Warlock into a Support role. Where he can hardly heal or deal damage.

He's not helping by that doesn't mean his Smokey Mountain Dew didn't buff up Orc warriors into battle ragers.

It wasn't his to begin with.

Kil'jaeden summoned Mannoroth to Draenor so Gul'dan can spill his blood. Is drug dealing a support, really?

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Moar gnomes!

[Nerraw]

Moar gnomes!

This I can agree with.

[DeadmanWalking]

Okay, let's convert a most powerful mortal Warlock into a Support role. Where he can hardly heal or deal damage.



It wasn't his to begin with.

Kil'jaeden summoned Mannoroth to Draenor so Gul'dan can spill his blood. Is drug dealing a support, really?

Jesus, use a wrench to losen up that tail pipe and stop taking every word so literally. Nobody cares if it was his blood. He offered the cup, good enough for everybody.

[Magicalcrab]

I'd love to see the World of Warcraft Spirit Healer make an appearance as a Support hero. They're mad cool, and since I really dislike the resurrection-timer as a gameplay principle, I'd be totally down with some heroes experimenting with that mechanic in new and interesting ways.

[RH92]

Jesus, use a wrench to losen up that tail pipe and stop taking every word so literally. Nobody cares if it was his blood. He offered the cup, good enough for everybody.

Good to know you missed the point. How is drug dealing "good enough for everybody"?

If you want a Support Hero, there are other much better candidates. Just don't make the only important Warlock in Lore a bloody Support.

[DeadmanWalking]

Good to know you missed the point. How is drug dealing "good enough for everybody"?

If you want a Support Hero, there are other much better candidates. Just don't make the only important Warlock in Lore a bloody Support.

Or maybe you are looking at it a little too closely and you need to lighten up. You need to get over the whole "drug dealing" bullshit story you got going on because drinking make believe demon blood in a video game is not the same as actually dealing real drugs. Nobody said the warlock would be a support, all they said was that they wanted him to do something more than just nuke things and having an ability to increase team mates attacks isn't a bad thing, hell ETC does it and he isn't support.

[RH92]

Or maybe you are looking at it a little too closely and you need to lighten up. You need to get over the whole "drug dealing" bullshit story you got going on because drinking make believe demon blood in a video game is not the same as actually dealing real drugs.

The drug dealing analogy is actually perfect, just because it is a video game it does not diminish it's value.

When Orcs drank Mannoroth's Blood they became slaves to Burning Legion. Gul'dan created Horde because Kil'jaeden wanted him to do so, in order to wipe out Draenei and assault alien world. Gul'dan had no interest in Orcs, he just did it in exchange for more power.

He definitely did no good for his people, this is my major problem. I have no problem with 'evil' characters becoming Supports when they were actually helping their nation.

For example I would have no problem with Kel'thuzad being Support Hero. He as a character was never egoistic maniac seeking power, but a curious scholar. He pledged himself into Lich King's service because was interested in learning more, then it became his cause. He was always doing a supportive work: creating Scourge for Lich King, supporting Arthas in becoming Lich King and then serving him again.

I even think some Necromancy stuff could be used as a "heal". For example Animate Death was a Death Knight's ability which resurrected fallen units and made then invulnerable. So in HotS it could be something like this: If hero dies within X seconds, it comes back to life for limited time and will be invulnerable. He also had a Frost Shield ability.

Then you could still focus him on some Frost Spells and give him a mana draining ability as his niche (He was 'destroying' mana in Naxx). Now you have a offensive/utility Support that actually makes some sense.

Unlike a Warlock who betrayed everybody he could when a chance presented itself, even Burning Legion.

Nobody said the warlock would be a support, all they said was that they wanted him to do something more than just nuke things and having an ability to increase team mates attacks isn't a bad thing, hell ETC does it and he isn't support.

What about this:

I wonder if a unique take on Gul'dan could be a support/damage dealer sort of in the same vein as Tyrande, as opposed to just another burst mage. He tosses demon blood on allies to give them strange and unique demonic buffs, and also has a few debilitating/damaging debuffs for enemies.

Warlock don't have to nuke, he can deal damage over time and summon demons. So basically a Mage (In HotS terminology) with a Sustained Damage rather than Burst. We currently have no Hero like this, all Sustained Damage Dealers are AA Heroes (Other than Thrall maybe).

Sorry, but playing Warlock all these years make it hard for me to see a dark sorcerer as a Support hero. Warlocks themselves are actually physically sick from being exposed to Fel energies. They need to leech on others to sustain themselves, I can hardly see a Warlock class to be good foundation for Support.

It is like wanting ho have Warrior class as a Support... I mean, he could shout to buff and debuff Heroes. No?

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Could we see a movie event releasing both Gul'dan or Durotan and Llane or Lothar?

Gul'dan is all destro, can't see him being a demonologist. Archimonde is a better candidate for demo I reckon, though how they'd put it in and effectively differentiate it from Azmodan I'm not sure.

I think theyd make him dot based, azmodan is pretty similar to demo and we have plenty of burst mages already. Should be cool either way warlocks in heroes is a cool concept

[De Lupe]

I'd love to see the World of Warcraft Spirit Healer make an appearance as a Support hero. They're mad cool, and since I really dislike the resurrection-timer as a gameplay principle, I'd be totally down with some heroes experimenting with that mechanic in new and interesting ways.

I'd be up for this.

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Wilfred Fizzlebang and Jaraxxus obviously

[blankfaced]

I could see them doing Gul'dan as a Specialist, but not a support. Buffing heroes/minions with demon blood, gateways possibly, a curse that splits your damage with another enemy, dots that summon demons when they kill a target.

[Nayami]

Wilfred Fizzlebang and Jaraxxus obviously

I would sincerely love for this to happen!

[Deleted]

If it is Gul'Dan it will be interesting to know what his interactions will be with the demons from Diablo III

[DeadmanWalking]

If it is Gul'Dan it will be interesting to know what his interactions will be with the demons from Diablo III

"Can I interest you in some Smokey Mountain Dew? Maybe some cocaine, PCP, Roofies, Mary Jane... Got some heroine and some OxyContin too!"

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The drug dealing analogy is actually perfect, just because it is a video game it does not diminish it's value.

When Orcs drank Mannoroth's Blood they became slaves to Burning Legion. Gul'dan created Horde because Kil'jaeden wanted him to do so, in order to wipe out Draenei and assault alien world. Gul'dan had no interest in Orcs, he just did it in exchange for more power.

He definitely did no good for his people, this is my major problem. I have no problem with 'evil' characters becoming Supports when they were actually helping their nation.

For example I would have no problem with Kel'thuzad being Support Hero. He as a character was never egoistic maniac seeking power, but a curious scholar. He pledged himself into Lich King's service because was interested in learning more, then it became his cause. He was always doing a supportive work: creating Scourge for Lich King, supporting Arthas in becoming Lich King and then serving him again.

I even think some Necromancy stuff could be used as a "heal". For example Animate Death was a Death Knight's ability which resurrected fallen units and made then invulnerable. So in HotS it could be something like this: If hero dies within X seconds, it comes back to life for limited time and will be invulnerable. He also had a Frost Shield ability.

Then you could still focus him on some Frost Spells and give him a mana draining ability as his niche (He was 'destroying' mana in Naxx). Now you have a offensive/utility Support that actually makes some sense.

Unlike a Warlock who betrayed everybody he could when a chance presented itself, even Burning Legion.


What about this:


Warlock don't have to nuke, he can deal damage over time and summon demons. So basically a Mage (In HotS terminology) with a Sustained Damage rather than Burst. We currently have no Hero like this, all Sustained Damage Dealers are AA Heroes (Other than Thrall maybe).

Sorry, but playing Warlock all these years make it hard for me to see a dark sorcerer as a Support hero. Warlocks themselves are actually physically sick from being exposed to Fel energies. They need to leech on others to sustain themselves, I can hardly see a Warlock class to be good foundation for Support.

It is like wanting ho have Warrior class as a Support... I mean, he could shout to buff and debuff Heroes. No?

Too long, didn't read, don't care. I've got more interesting things to spend my life doing than arguing the semantics of drugs to demon blood ratios.

[RH92]

Too long, didn't read, don't care. I've got more interesting things to spend my life doing than arguing the semantics of drugs to demon blood ratios.

If you would read it, you would notice that I dedicated only one paragraph of my post to it. Rest is completely different stuff, but good for you I guess.

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We need Maiev as tank. That would be something.

Or we need a wisp/probe hero that builds towers and barracks from which special minions spawn.

If we get Overwatch heroes, we could get Winston as tank or Mercy as support as well.