Trump 41%, Clinton 39%

[chrisfover87]

It is the truth. he have so many bankrupt cases on his so called business trail that anyone should be seriously concerned with his business skills. Someone always have to pay the bills after his disasters and when your leader has a record of not paying his bills. USA's credit rating will take a hit when you appoint a dead beat bankrupter in chief to the highest office,

You see real business will get scared about know that USA is lead by a dead beat i dont pay my bills moron. Really the same as if YOU where to lead something and your history was filled with failed to pay your debts well you would not have very good credit rating either and same goes for any business you are leading.

But are you implying that he is personally responsible for the failures of these businesses? LOL, you can do better than that.

[iceberg265]

If it's between Trump and Hillary. DO NOT vote Hillary. No idea how she's even a contender let alone the top. Lot of my Bernie supporting friends said they'd rather have Trump in the white house than Shillary.

Trump has a lot of problems but he will do good.

I absolutely loathe Hillary. But saying Trump will do good is at best naive.

[Kujako]

Trump has a lot of problems but he will do good.

Such as? Got any example of "good" he'll do?

[iceberg265]

But are you implying that he is personally responsible for the failures of these businesses? LOL, you can do better than that.

Are you saying he is NOT personally responsible for the failure of businesses he owns?

[Felya]

You can keep saying that to yourself. While in fact, he (the stupid Trump according to you) is still much more successful than you in almost every aspect. To me, he wins, you loses.

But, you lose with Trump the same way... At least he isn't supporting his loses...

[Machismo]

But are you implying that he is personally responsible for the failures of these businesses? LOL, you can do better than that.

If they are his companies that he founded, ot that he's the man in charge of... yes, he is responsible.

[chrisfover87]

He wins by simple luck of his birth situation. You think he deserves a fucking cookie for that? Shouldn't you be outraged about it instead of praising him for it? Why is it fair that Trump gets hundreds of millions of dollars just for being born while we have people all over the world being born into poverty and famine?

He was born with privilege, Yes, I do agree with that. But all I can see in fact was that he utilized those privileges in a smart way and successfully expanded his business world-wide. And he has been successful in his political adventure as well. You can certainly say he is biased or bigoted. But I dont agree that he is "stupid".

[Macaquerie]

What I don't get is, why do Trump's supporters find his supposed business acumen to be so impressive? For one thing, there are people out there who are FAR richer than he is, and yet even before he entered politics he still had more name recognition and association with wealth than dozens of businessmen who have been objectively more successful. For another, the business that Trump is in doesn't exactly represent the kind of things that we actually value in American business. He hasn't invented anything, doesn't produce anything particularly useful, and his companies generally have little impact on our day to day lives. To use economics lingo, he's just a rent seeker - he owns stuff that generates revenue without him having to do much of anything, whether that be actual rent on his properties or licensing out his name. And even at that, he's not particularly good, the man couldn't even turn a profit on a goddamn casino!

Say what you will about the likes of Steve Jobs or Elon Musk, those guys are forward thinking with a vision of the future built around the use of their products. They might be rich, egomaniacal douchebags, but you can't deny that in their own way, they had a major impact. What the hell is Trump's vision? Golden toilets with his name plastered over them? A good businessman gets rich because thats his reward for the contribution he makes to our society, what exactly does Trump contribute?

[Felya]

But are you implying that he is personally responsible for the failures of these businesses? LOL, you can do better than that.

He started a mortgage firm in 2006:

“I think it’s a great time to start a mortgage company,” Trump told a CNBC interviewer in April 2006, adding that “the real estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...9ad_story.html

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Trump runs a multi-billion dollar international business. Trump has won in 25 states, out of a total of 37 primaries. Trump has a net worth of 4 billion USDs.


and you are calling him stupid. Really smart.

I think I've been misunderstood once more. The electoral campain put around Trump is stupid. The man himself is brilliant. But everything, from pro-Trump to anti-Trump extremists breathe stupidity. It's like if the two poles of stupidity in our society can't help themselves but always speak of Trump. Good, bad, who cares as long that it's Trump.

By the way, I respect the man immenselly.

[Machismo]

He was born with privilege, Yes, I do agree with that. But all I can see in fact was that he utilized those privileges in a smart way and successfully expanded his business world-wide. And he has been successful in his political adventure as well. You can certainly say he is biased or bigoted. But I dont agree that he is "stupid".

But he's not really that successful. It's not as if he made his large gift perform at an amazing level. He's suffered multiple nakruptcies, and should probably be worth more.

[chrisfover87]

Are you saying he is NOT personally responsible for the failure of businesses he owns?

Apparently you dont know how the business world works.

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But he's not really that successful. It's not as if he made his large gift perform at an amazing level. He's suffered multiple nakruptcies, and should probably be worth more.

My point is he is not stupid.

[Kujako]

My point is he is not stupid.

We have evidence that he is, present your evidence to the contrary.

[Pangean]

This remains Pants on Fire False until you can find evidence otherwise. You saying it is true is not evidence.

Whats the name of the government office in Mexico that sends these folks here to the US? Perhaps Ransath can name it since he claims it to be true that Mexico sends rapists and murders.

[Tijuana]

Trump says and does so many things that are easily to attack. Why make up stuff about his business dealings? What is gained for your side of the argument, by saying lies that make you look dumb?

[GodEmperor]

I absolutely loathe Hillary. But saying Trump will do good is at best naive.

See there are no options. If by this point you don't think it will be between Hillary and Trump you're deluded. Bernie is Out. El Rato is out. He's just the lesser of the two evils. As for him doing good, he'll learn. He's new to this, compared to someone who has already been in this and lying all their life. And I'm sure you know that as a person he has a strong personality/aura. Something a president needs and something I really don't see in any of the others.

I like that he puts the US and its citizens above others. Something Shillary seems to have a hard time doing. Just see her new Women Card and Tshirts campaign.

[chrisfover87]

But, you lose with Trump the same way... At least he isn't supporting his loses...

Yes, but I have respect for him and will never call him "stupid"

[Machismo]

Apparently you dont know how the business world works.

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My point is he is not stupid.

But he does cater to stupid and ignorant people.

And he's not really that successful, not when taken in context. As for him being responsible for bankruptcies. If he is in charge of a company, and it goes bankrupt, he is responsible. How many millions do you think he's bilked from the taxpayers? Talk about a welfare case...

[chrisfover87]

We have evidence that he is, present your evidence to the contrary.

so you know him personally? you have his IQ score?

[Machismo]

See there are no options. If by this point you don't think it will be between Hillary and Trump you're deluded. Bernie is Out. El Rato is out. He's just the lesser of the two evils. As for him doing good, he'll learn. He's new to this, compared to someone who has already been in this and lying all their life. And I'm sure you know that as a person he has a strong personality/aura. Something a president needs and something I really don't see in any of the others.

I like that he puts the US and its citizens above others. Something Shillary seems to have a hard time doing. Just see her new Women Card and Tshirts campaign.

Trump has been caught lying countless times. Do you think he's stop? He's also stated he wants to take away people's freedoms, is that what you support?

Of course, you could always vote 3rd party, and not be a brainwashed partisan.

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so you know him personally? you have his IQ score?

Do you?
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