Trump 41%, Clinton 39%

[iceberg265]

He was born with privilege, Yes, I do agree with that. But all I can see in fact was that he utilized those privileges in a smart way and successfully expanded his business world-wide. And he has been successful in his political adventure as well. You can certainly say he is biased or bigoted. But I dont agree that he is "stupid".

I personally did not say he is stupid. I just proved facts that show he is not good at business.

[Machismo]

I think I've been misunderstood once more. The electoral campain put around Trump is stupid. The man himself is brilliant. But everything, from pro-Trump to anti-Trump extremists breathe stupidity. It's like if the two poles of stupidity in our society can't help themselves but always speak of Trump. Good, bad, who cares as long that it's Trump.

By the way, I respect the man immenselly.

Do you respect him because he's able to get ignorant people to believe all his lies? Or do you respect him because he's made money by screwing over complete strangers? Maybe you respect him for sucking millions of dollars from taxpayers.

[chrisfover87]

But he does cater to stupid and ignorant people.

And he's not really that successful, not when taken in context. As for him being responsible for bankruptcies. If he is in charge of a company, and it goes bankrupt, he is responsible. How many millions do you think he's bilked from the taxpayers? Talk about a welfare case...

Your first statement is really subjective anyways. But my point is you should have at least some respect for him and not call him stupid.

[unfilteredJW]

Your first statement is really subjective anyways. But my point is you should have at least some respect for him and not call him stupid.

What has he done to earn said respect?

Made money is not a correct answer.

[iceberg265]

See there are no options. If by this point you don't think it will be between Hillary and Trump you're deluded. Bernie is Out. El Rato is out. He's just the lesser of the two evils. As for him doing good, he'll learn. He's new to this, compared to someone who has already been in this and lying all their life. And I'm sure you know that as a person he has a strong personality/aura. Something a president needs and something I really don't see in any of the others.

I like that he puts the US and its citizens above others. Something Shillary seems to have a hard time doing. Just see her new Women Card and Tshirts campaign.

I will not vote for Trump. I am still holding out hope that the Dem superdelegates will come to their senses and realize what a weak candidate Hillary is and vote Bernie. But if that does not happen, and assuming Hillary isn't indicted, she will have like 3 months to earn my vote. Otherwise if the election was today I would either write in Bernie or vote for a third party.

[Machismo]

Your first statement is really subjective anyways. But my point is you should have at least some respect for him and not call him stupid.

I didn't call him stupid, did I?

My initial statement is subjective, but there's plenty of data to back it up. He has been caught in countless lies, yet his supporters do not care when confronted with them. That makes them willfully ignorant. Then of course there's the little issue that his supporters are less educated as a whole.

[Tijuana]

I didn't call him stupid, did I?

My initial statement is subjective, but there's plenty of data to back it up. He has been caught in countless lies, yet his supporters do not care when confronted with them. That makes them willfully ignorant. Then of course there's the little issue that his supporters are less educated as a whole.

To be fair, Hillary lies about lies while telling lie lies. The general election will not be very truthy.

[Macaquerie]

Your first statement is really subjective anyways. But my point is you should have at least some respect for him and not call him stupid.

I respect people who contribute something to society, what has Trump contributed?

[iceberg265]

To be fair, Hillary lies about lies while telling lie lies. The general election will not be very truthy.

Hillary = status quo, the rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer. The economy will most likely decline, another recession is very likely. And there will be a very slight improvement in social areas.

Trump = the world burns down.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Do you respect him because he's able to get ignorant people to believe all his lies? Or do you respect him because he's made money by screwing over complete strangers? Maybe you respect him for sucking millions of dollars from taxpayers.

I respect him for what he was able to achieve. The ethics of it have no incidence in the perception I have of the man. I think that to limit someone to his ethics is a very narrow way of judging someome and his abilities.

May we want it or not, Trump achieved tremedous things that I and you will never get to achieve, wether we agree with it or not.

[Gorgodeus]

But are you implying that he is personally responsible for the failures of these businesses? LOL, you can do better than that.

He was responsible. Only an idiot would spend millions to invest in and start up casino related businesses when the industry was on a downward spiral.

[Pangean]

Before Trump and Bernie gained ground, and before there were a million R candidates, I had a legitimate fear of Clinton v Bush. A real vision of Family Owned and Operated™ America.

Political dynasties are a sign of the illness of a political process.

[BuckSparkles]

I really hope Trump wins. I should compile a list of certain individuals who are 100% sure he won't win.

It will be delightful to rub it in their faces.

[Tijuana]

Hillary = status quo, the rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer. The economy will most likely decline, another recession is very likely. And there will be a very slight improvement in social areas.

Trump = the world burns down.

I despise Hillary but, I am not so blinded by hatred that I can't see that she is quite competent, and would probably do pretty decent, especially with Bill hanging around.

I also despise Trump but, I have been dedicated since my first election to vote or any and all outsiders. I also like the idea of a president who self funds his campaign, but we will have to wait and see if Trump follows through on that.

[Machismo]

To be fair, Hillary lies about lies while telling lie lies. The general election will not be very truthy.

That's why I don't plan on voting for either.

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I respect him for what he was able to achieve. The ethics of it have no incidence in the perception I have of the man. I think that to limit someone to his ethics is a very narrow way of judging someome and his abilities.

May we want it or not, Trump achieved tremedous things that I and you will never get to achieve, wether we agree with it or not.

If you are willing to ignore ethics in determining respect, that must mean you also respect Hitler. After all, he was also quite successful...

[Felya]

Yes, but I have respect for him and will never call him "stupid"

While he calls you a loser...

[Machismo]

I really hope Trump wins. I should compile a list of certain individuals who are 100% sure he won't win.

It will be delightful to rub it in their faces.

I'm willing to bet you on that one.

[breadisfunny]

I respect him for what he was able to achieve. The ethics of it have no incidence in the perception I have of the man. I think that to limit someone to his ethics is a very narrow way of judging someone and his abilities.

May we want it or not, Trump achieved tremendous things that I and you will never get to achieve, wether we agree with it or not.

saying someone is to be respected by that metric would make someone like idi amin a great man i mean look at all the power he acquired. never mind the fact he was a racist antisemite and hated asians and starved his own people and was generally incompetent.

[Macaquerie]

While he calls you a loser...

This is what I honestly don't understand about authoritarians. Not the leaders, it makes perfect sense why they're doing what they're doing, but why are the followers so eager to be pushed around and told what to do?

[Pangean]

so you know him personally? you have his IQ score?

Not a very skilled attempt in not supporting your claims as you were asked to. Care to try again?