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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Here's the thing: The media has been pro-Trump when it comes to covering the Republican primaries and has not been pro-Cruz. Those kid gloves they've been handling Trump with will now start to come off and the protection that the mainstream media has been giving him up until now will vanish. Cruz never got the kid gloves in the first place... so if he'd gotten the nomination it would have been business as usual for him going forward anyway.
    You clearly haven't been watching the news at all. MSM especially was never pro-Trump this cycle. In fact, they ran many hit pieces against him. Cruz got demolished because he relied on things like debates to get national exposure while Trump generated his own publicity by saying outrageous things. After the debates stopped, Cruz started to fall into obscurity. The media spent so much time airing Trump and his outrageous statements because it glues viewers to the screen and generates higher ratings than any other candidate of either party.

    Pretty much every news outlet will admit at this point that Trump has manipulated them like nothing they've ever seen before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    The Reagan election was impacted by an unique outside influence. The Iran hostage crisis put it's mark on it. Without that crisis, things probably would have reflected the early predictions.
    And this time around we have the illegal alien crisis, and the syrian refugee crisis, both of which the democrats just sweep under the rug and play pity for them meanwhile the silent majority and republicans are pissed off about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by p291u View Post
    You clearly haven't been watching the news at all. MSM especially was never pro-Trump this cycle. In fact, they ran many hit pieces against him. Cruz got demolished because he relied on things like debates to get national exposure while Trump generated his own publicity by saying outrageous things. After the debates stopped, Cruz started to fall into obscurity. The media spent so much time airing Trump and his outrageous statements because it glues viewers to the screen and generates higher ratings than any other candidate of either party.



    Pretty much every news outlet will admit at this point that Trump has manipulated them like nothing they've ever seen before.
    Lol. So true. And it has been basically free advertisement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Lol. So true. And it has been basically free advertisement.
    The media loves Trump, despite what they say.

    They are fantastic for ratings.

    And their ratings would continue to be good if the God Meme Emperor Trump wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    And this time around we have the illegal alien crisis, and the syrian refugee crisis, both of which the democrats just sweep under the rug and play pity for them meanwhile the silent majority and republicans are pissed off about it
    Don't you know all refugees are doctors and lawyers and will enrich our lives?

    Also, illegal? They are "undocumented."

    Get it right, you f@cken bigot :]

    (Note: Sarcasm, I agree with you.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endemonadia View Post
    Because the way sensible people see it is that the Superdelegates makes it easier for the 'Elite' to know who to bribe. Its easier for them to place their own people in those positions so they control the vote.
    Elites of either party don't have to bribe anyone. Primaries are not general election. The party chooses who will be in the primaries. If the party chose to ignore primaries and elect anyone else, they are within their power to do so. These are party nominations...

    Therefore my original point that the 'elite' decided long ago that Hillary will win is completely accurate.... She will win because they will ensure that she wins.
    When you say long ago, you mean 2008?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    The media loves Trump, despite what they say.

    They are fantastic for ratings.

    And their ratings would continue to be good if the God Meme Emperor Trump wins.
    They are very torn that's for sure. Many of them hate a lot of what he says but the network execs all have $$$ glistening in their eyes every time he's on air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Reagan won 61% of the popular votes. So it was not just white males voting for him. Obama won 51% of the popular vote and Romney 47%. It was very close, right down to the last votes in some key states, which Obama won. But you can continue to hold onto the polls which are always accurate.
    New CNN poll, Hillary 54%, Trump 41%

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politi...ion/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    The media loves Trump, despite what they say.

    They are fantastic for ratings.

    And their ratings would continue to be good if the God Meme Emperor Trump wins.
    Especially once he institutes the Hunger Games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fengosa View Post
    New CNN poll, Hillary 54%, Trump 41%

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politi...ion/index.html
    General election matchup polls pretty much mean nothing at this point and they never have. You have to wait until the nomination process is over and the two candidates have some time to get oriented and butt heads a bit before the polls will start to give an accurate measure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fengosa View Post
    New CNN poll, Hillary 54%, Trump 41%

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politi...ion/index.html
    And that is for now. Trump hasnt made a single ad or speech against Crooked Hillary yet. Once the real campaign starts those numbers WILL reverse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melkandor View Post
    I'm hoping this disenfranchisement among voters will lead to more than just two parties being major contenders for the presidency
    Even if new parties rose up, we would always revert towards a 2 party system as long as first past the post is the electoral system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p291u View Post
    You clearly haven't been watching the news at all.
    Clearly I have... hence what I said.

    Plus, you can hear the fawning over Trump in this leaked audio from MSNBC...



    "Nothing too hard, Mica."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Reagan won 61% of the popular votes. So it was not just white males voting for him. Obama won 51% of the popular vote and Romney 47%. It was very close, right down to the last votes in some key states, which Obama won. But you can continue to hold onto the polls which are always accurate.
    Reagan did not win 61% of the popular vote he won 50.7% (carter 41.0% Anderson 6.6%). Reagan also lost big time among African Americans (not surprising given his racist campaign) and moderately so among Hispanics. Now how likely do you think it is for Trump to get a substantial portion of the non-white vote, given that he isn't running a dog-whistle natavist/racist campaign but a bullhorn one? (Hint : look at his unfavorables among Hispanics and African Americans) Both those groups loathe him and they make up a much larger share of the electorate than they used to. This isn't 1980 anymore and this isn't the 1980 electorate. It is why the republicans don't want him on the ballot. If they thought they could win on a natavist/racist platform as they did in the past they would.
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fengosa View Post
    New CNN poll, Hillary 54%, Trump 41%

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politi...ion/index.html
    And the polls showed Carter up over Reagan by even a larger margin this early in the election year. 25% points. Polls this early are pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melkandor View Post
    A picture says a thousand words. Go look at the picture. Keeping yourself in ignorance is never a good thing. Doesn't matter the source of the picture as long as it's not photoshopped.
    Clearly there's a monster in Loch Ness:



    And there's a creepy shadow ghost haunting this family:



    The truth is out there:

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Reagan did not win 61% of the popular vote he won 50.7% (carter 41.0% Anderson 6.6%). Reagan also lost big time among African Americans (not surprising given his racist campaign) and moderately so among Hispanics. Now how likely do you think it is for Trump to get a substantial portion of the non-white vote, given that he isn't running a dog-whistle natavist/racist campaign but a bullhorn one? (Hint : look at his unfavorables among Hispanics and African Americans) Both those groups loathe him and they make up a much larger share of the electorate than they used to. This isn't 1980 anymore and this isn't the 1980 electorate. It is why the republicans don't want him on the ballot. If they thought they could win on a natavist/racist platform as they did in the past they would.
    True about the % votes. I stand corrected. He did win by 9% points over Carter and Obama only won by 4% over Romney. I got 1980 and 1984 stats mixed up it seems. And also true this is not 1980 anymore. But the fact that polls, esp early ones, can be wrong, still applies.

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    Popular vote does not matter, it's all about swing states.


    Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia, Colorado and I'm sure a few more. A billion people could vote for hill dawg in New York and it wouldn't matter because she would win New York anyway, it's always going to vote democrat.

  18. #458
    I don't know or care if Trump will make it to the White House, but I will be forever grateful that he took out Cruz along the way.

    Thank you Donald Trump for slaying a great evil, for making the world(in your own way)a slightly better place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p291u View Post
    General election matchup polls pretty much mean nothing at this point and they never have. You have to wait until the nomination process is over and the two candidates have some time to get oriented and butt heads a bit before the polls will start to give an accurate measure.
    Actually no. We are now at the point where they are beggining to have real predictive power. We are roughly at the 200 day mark.

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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Clearly I have... hence what I said.

    Plus, you can hear the fawning over Trump in this leaked audio from MSNBC...



    "Nothing too hard, Mica."
    That's all you got lol? One small sentence out of a 6 minute clip in one casual friendly conversation between Trump and two hosts of one of the smaller networks? Maybe this is new to you but this presidential race is over a year long including primary season. You have to be at least somewhat friendly with the candidates so that they will come back on your show otherwise you're locked out of the news cycle and your network is going to tank.

    Fox news, CNN, even MSNBC were all running with the hit pieces on the KKK, Trump university, etc... Just look at the Fox debate they had where they prepared slides specifically against Trump and piled in on him from the beginning. Even yesterday, look at CNN and Jake Tapper who almost had a meltdown as big as zodiac did over Trump's 1 minute mention of a National Enquirer conspiracy about lyin ted's dad and Lee Harvey Oswald.

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