For all your hate on Trump, at least.

[alturic]

TBH, I don't really care that anyone is yelling, it's called a protest...that is kinda what happens. Same is true for Trump, and all other, supporters, yell all you want. I just have zero tolerance for physical actions, and violations of physical space (getting in someone's face and preventing them from walking around/away is a violation of space).

See, this comment is great. Black Lives Matter and all them can learn a thing or two about what protesting actually is. These people right here aren't blocking streets, burning shit down, looting weaves from beauty salons, beating on silly drums, etc. Hell, they ain't shuttin' shit down even.

[RickJamesLich]

Well....I don't think I see an parents or "adults" in that video, just a bunch of teens...that I can't get upset at for actually doing something offline. So whether or not these kids were told to act this way, one cannot say.

And I see only minorities, mostly latino's, amongst the 5 or so that are yelling in this tiny glimpse. Latino's being the group with the most right to be quite upset with Trump and his racists and hateful opinions/policies of "their kind."

TBH, I don't really care that anyone is yelling, it's called a protest...that is kinda what happens. Same is true for Trump, and all other, supporters, yell all you want. I just have zero tolerance for physical actions, and violations of physical space (getting in someone's face and preventing them from walking around/away is a violation of space).

What I think is sad...is that anyone thinks that protesting another candidate's rally will do anything positive, let alone change anyone's mind on any issue. Whole thing is a circus of monkeys imo, idc who's side your on.

You must've not watched the video. Only 5 or so kids and mostly Latino? lmao. Seriously, watch the video... it's only 30 seconds long.

And this isn't even protesting. This is just being a dick to people. There's no message here or anything other than "fuck you" lol.

[unbound]

None of his supporters have their kids out there acting like this.....adults either.

Why do this? All this does is make your side look bad? Trump may be a blowhard, hate monger, hair piece, but can any one show me anything like this from his side?

Wait a minute...I thought Republicans were all about being non-PC. Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

[Lenonis]

Sky-rocket the debt? I'm guessing that's going to be a side-effect of making the rich and pretty much everyone elses taxes go down?

Well, generally if you slash revenue in a budget your debt does skyrocket.

[alturic]

You must've not watched the video. Only 5 or so kids and mostly Latino? lmao. Seriously, watch the video... it's only 30 seconds long.

And this isn't even protesting. This is just being a dick to people. There's no message here or anything other than "fuck you" lol.

Isn't that "protesting"? I mean, if you didn't like Trump or something he said how exactly would your "protest" look?

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Well, generally if you slash revenue in a budget your debt does skyrocket.

Yes, then you off-set that by cutting all the welfare. I know, I know, not everyone can make 6 figures a year.

[Lenonis]

which is exactly what our country is, a business.

Ugh. Not this again.

What is the primary goal of a business?

What is the primary goal of a country?

Bonus question -- how exactly are those two the same again?

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Yes, then you off-set that by cutting all the welfare.

Ok, so let's go ahead with this thought experiment and assumed that Trump is president and has veto proof majorities in both houses (won't happen).

You slash taxes and eliminate all welfare programs.

Go ahead and continue with how that actually works out in society.

[alturic]

Ugh. Not this again.

What is the primary goal of a business?

What is the primary goal of a country?

Bonus question -- how exactly are those two the same again?

Ok, let's get real strict on the wording instead of blanket business. Our country is essentially exactly like a 503(c).

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Ugh. Not this again.

What is the primary goal of a business?

What is the primary goal of a country?

Bonus question -- how exactly are those two the same again?

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Ok, so let's go ahead with this thought experiment and assumed that Trump is president and has veto proof majorities in both houses (won't happen).

You slash taxes and eliminate all welfare programs.

Go ahead and continue with how that actually works out in society.

Considering none of it affects me, I don't give a shit?

[Lenonis]

Ok, let's get real strict on the wording instead of blanket business. Our country is essentially exactly like a 503(c).

Ok, better. You've removed the profit point from the equation which is leap years better than most.

Unfortunately you still didn't answer my question.

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Considering none of it affects me, I don't give a shit?

Oh! You are one of THOSE. You think that you are immune to the effects of societal changes outside of your socioeconomic status. How cute.

[alturic]

Ok, better. You've removed the profit point from the equation which is leap years better than most.

Unfortunately you still didn't answer my question.

The point where how is a country like a 503(c)? The point where you have a revenue column and an expense column?

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Ok, better. You've removed the profit point from the equation which is leap years better than most.

Unfortunately you still didn't answer my question.

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Oh! You are one of THOSE. You think that you are immune to the effects of societal changes outside of your socioeconomic status. How cute.

Oh, I am. The only way it actually does affect me (and the customers of my industry) is that they are paying most for the welfare programs to be sustained.

[RickJamesLich]

Isn't that "protesting"? I mean, if you didn't like Trump or something he said how exactly would your "protest" look?

I don't know what you call this to be honest, I think a new word needs to be invented. Usually with protests though, there is some sort of purpose beyond just saying "fuck you" and giving the finger though. So on some level it shares similarities of protesting, but it seems like at the same time these people are just trying to be offensive and hide behind the excuse of "protesting". A new word definitely needs to be invented here lol.

Like with protesting, there's normally a point A and a point B. Point A is where you say something to get attention, and it can be offensive, or it can be any other number of things, it can be funny, or something that may surprise someone. You lead that up to Point B - which is the real message you are trying to tell the person. So for example, Mother's Against Drunk Driving may pick a place with signs (point A) and when people come up to talk to them, they can try to explain their logic on when they are against drunk driving (point B). Even with a hate group like the KKK, they may picket a place and chant crazy stuff (point A) but when you come up and talk to them, they will try to give you statistics, or spit some crazy rhetoric or something (point B).

These kids (and the adults with them) are just hitting point A but never actually trying to get to point B.

[alturic]

I don't know what you call this to be honest, I think a new word needs to be invented. Usually with protests though, there is some sort of purpose beyond just saying "fuck you" and giving the finger though. So on some level it shares similarities of protesting, but it seems like at the same time these people are just trying to be offensive and hide behind the excuse of "protesting". A new word definitely needs to be invented here lol.

Like with protesting, there's normally a point A and a point B. Point A is where you say something to get attention, and it can be offensive, or it can be any other number of things, it can be funny, or something that may surprise someone. You lead that up to Point B - which is the real message you are trying to tell the person. So for example, Mother's Against Drunk Driving may pick a place with signs (point A) and when people come up to talk to them, they can try to explain their logic on when they are against drunk driving (point B). Even with a hate group like the KKK, they may picket a place and chant crazy stuff (point A) but when you come up and talk to them, they will try to give you statistics, or spit some crazy rhetoric or something (point B).

These kids (and the adults with them) are just hitting point A but never actually trying to get to point B.

Gotcha, so at least we agree that none of the "protesting" that's occured in the past.... hmm 20(?) years, in the US at least, are the silliest thing in the world?

[Xeones]

I read it at least a year ago. Old news.

and those kids weren't swearing, making lewd gestures, or screaming nasty personal insults. They were supporting their presidential candidate, which they have every right to do.

Ooooh, scary white kids, chanting Trump's name.

... it happened less than 3 months ago.

[Lenonis]

The point where how is a country like a 503(c)? The point where you have a revenue column and an expense column?

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Oh, I am. The only way it actually does affect me (and the customers of my industry) is that they are paying most for the welfare programs to be sustained.

I just simply can't tell at this point if you are serious or not. Because your first answer was not only oddly simplistic given your prior response but is also still dodging my question and your second response is just too close to Poe's law for my tastes.

[RickJamesLich]

Gotcha, so at least we agree that none of the "protesting" that's occured in the past.... hmm 20(?) years, in the US at least, are the silliest thing in the world?

Not sure you can really compare other types of protests to this, or at least attempt to generalize it. Usually with protesting there is some deeper message or an open line of communication for debate lol... generally you attempt to say something that may "shock" the other person but you are attempting to communicate with them so they can see your point of view. This does not resemble that at all though.

[CanDellJack]

Trump made America hate again.

See, comments like these make me upset. They appear to me to be the result of a lack of critical examination. Trump is definitely far from eloquent, and errs more on the side of brutish, but aside from his call to outright ban Muslim immigration he hasn't been overtly racist. Sure, his terminology may be tact less, but I haven't met many 70 year olds that aren't.

This whole election has shined a spotlight on the worse parts of humanity. The intelligent and powerful manipulate information and skew representation, on both sides, to paint the others as monsters. Attempts to demonize through the psychological effect of the "Other" : I. E. "socialist" "communist" "racist" etc. Parents having their children spew vile nonsense referencing affronts that never occurred.

As a teacher I deal with children from parents on both "ends of the specteum" (center-right regardless of party) coming to school spewing hateful nonsense. Black students telling white students their opinions don't matter because they're white, many different races calling to deport my Hispanic students, wealthy students calling poor students leeches. They don't feel these things, they learn them. It's heart breaking that we are so set on the other side losing that we will use CHILDREN to further our agendas.

Edit: I teach in a southern inner city school, in a very impoverished area. I have just about every demographic possible so I get to see the best and worse of everyone. It is eye opening.

[alturic]

I just simply can't tell at this point if you are serious or not. Because your first answer was not only oddly simplistic given your prior response but is also still dodging my question and your second response is just too close to Poe's law for my tastes.

In all actuality, I'm simply going for Trump just because I can't imagine Hilary as president, boy isn't that the same reason that some people are voting for Hilary ha.. Trumps business accument is just another reason to like him.

At the end of the day, nothing that any of them do will affect me on a micro level and the macro level is kind'va whatever to me. It still own't affect me outside of my taxes either going up or down or unless we get into WW3 and they bring the draft back. Then I'd have to move.

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Not sure you can really compare other types of protests to this, or at least attempt to generalize it. Usually with protesting there is some deeper message or an open line of communication for debate lol... generally you attempt to say something that may "shock" the other person but you are attempting to communicate with them so they can see your point of view. This does not resemble that at all though.

Well, I was really comparing it to the blacks protesting when a white cop kills a black. That shit is just hilarious to me because they don't seem to do any of that when the cops can't stop the blacks killing other blacks? I understand there's no-one to protest when a black kills a black, but shit they COULD at least be consistent and protest the cops for not being able to stop the epidemic.

[Reeve]

I read it at least a year ago. Old news.

and those kids weren't swearing, making lewd gestures, or screaming nasty personal insults. They were supporting their presidential candidate, which they have every right to do.

Ooooh, scary white kids, chanting Trump's name.

When that candidate's name and agenda are representative of anti-Latino sentiment, when they're chanting that at Latinos specifically as a way to suggest they don't belong here, yeah, it's racist and far more hurtful than a couple of swear words and lewd gestures.

[Army Dreamer]

This made my day. Best show it the town.

[alturic]

See, comments like these make me upset. They appear to me to be the result of a lack of critical examination. Trump is definitely far from eloquent, and errs more on the side of brutish, but aside from his call to outright ban Muslim immigration he hasn't been overtly racist. Sure, his terminology may be tact less, but I haven't met many 70 year olds that aren't.

This whole election has shined a spotlight on the worse parts of humanity. The intelligent and powerful manipulate information and skew representation, on both sides, to paint the others as monsters. Attempts to demonize through the psychological effect of the "Other" : I. E. "socialist" "communist" "racist" etc. Parents having their children spew vile nonsense referencing affronts that never occurred.

As a teacher I deal with children from parents on both "ends of the specteum" (center-right regardless of party) coming to school spewing hateful nonsense. Black students telling white students their opinions don't matter because they're white, many different races calling to deport my Hispanic students, wealthy students calling poor students leeches. They don't feel these things, they learn them. It's heart breaking that we are so set on the other side losing that we will use CHILDREN to further our agendas.

Edit: I teach in a southern inner city school, in a very impoverished area. I have just about every demographic possible so I get to see the best and worse of everyone. It is eye opening.

So you're saying that these "many 70 year olds that aren't" tactless are just continuing the cycle taught to THEM when they were kids? Of course it all starts at home, like every other thing that kids learn and grow into.

[CanDellJack]

I personally know many Hispanics here in Arkansas that support Trump. Anecdotal, sure, but considering his comments only target illegal immigrants I can understand why those coming through legal channels might support him.