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    Well, the organized crime/casino connection isn't totally unfounded, but there's no doubt that he was being incredibly insensitive toward Native Americans. That being said, he is far from the exception there. EVERYONE is racist toward Native Americans (not condoning as it is horrid and one of the most underrepresented minorities in the US). Bernie isn't mentioning the natives, Hillary isn't mentioning the natives, tumblr isn't mentioning the natives. They are often overlooked and mocked by many Americans, so that is less a Trump problem and more a national problem. Especially back in the 90's.

    I'd address the 1973 comment but 1. no source and 2. when I looked for one I was inundated with buzzfeed and huffpost articles with their bullshit lists, so I couldn't find anything credible.
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  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by IIamaKing View Post
    Why do this? All this does is make your side look bad? Trump may be a blowhard, hate monger, hair piece, but can any one show me anything like this from his side?
    Well, every trump supporter wants a fucking wall between USA and Mexico. I think that's waaaaaaay worse than a middle finger and some curses.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Shanknasty View Post
    This has got to be a troll post, correct?
    Believe it or not compared to the rest of the world we actually do. To be fair though when you have to compare to policies in Europe then it does shift the scales a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanknasty View Post
    This has got to be a troll post, correct?
    No really. USA is the only country who has a fence covering their borders. Just to get a VISA you NEED to have someone living there, else hire a travel agency to do the paperwork else you are put in a list that takes in the best cases a year to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damajin View Post
    I personally wouldn't mind a cut in military budget as it hurts the entire MIC, but no I wasn't referring to that. Each year for the last 7-10 years there's a Wastebook published in Washington that highlights the insane ways that tax dollars are spent and how much. Here's the version for 2015:

    http://www.flake.senate.gov/public/_...k-2015-pdf.pdf

    That particular one showcases over 100 billion dollars in wasted taxpayer money paid out for the previous year, on programs both big and small. This is a yearly problem where governmental largesse just keeps doing this type of shit and in a situation where every dollar matters which is the one we're in now with scrambling to find money to pay for things that actually truly matter these types of wasted funds are inexcusable.

    There'd actually be quite a bit of money to handle both social programs and necessary civil protection like policing our border if we weren't being fleeced like this year after year after year. Citizens on both sides of the aisle would actually be seeing some progress on the things that matter to them. Cutting the military budget would be fine but it also wouldn't be necessary if we were able to actually spend responsibly and put a vice grip on the public coffers so we don't have money being wasted on the study of how Swedish massage affects different kinds of animals and whether or not college kids can become addicted to pizza.
    Hey now... training monkeys to run on a treadmill is a damn good use of money. It's entertainment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IIamaKing View Post
    Again, singular events of singular people acting, still not excusable, but not the same as organized events where the only goal is to shout down and curse out.
    How did we get from your original post, which was a singular event of singular people acting to comparing versus the protests?

    "None of his supporters have their kids out there acting like this.....adults either."
    and
    "Why do this? All this does is make your side look bad? Trump may be a blowhard, hate monger, hair piece, but can any one show me anything like this from his side? "

    Yet when you're shown exactly something "like this from his side", you move your goalposts from "like this" to something else?

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    Hey now... training monkeys to run on a treadmill is a damn good use of money. It's entertainment!
    Well then let HBO pay for it and put it on their channel, and the taxpayers keep their money so we can actually get some real shit done.

    In 2014 they spent a billion dollars to destroy 16 billion dollars of 'obsolete and extra' ammunition they had bought in previous years and never used. There's fleets of vehicles and tons of buildings owned by the government that never see use and yet are regularly kept up and refitted despite their lack of use that cost millions upon millions of dollars every single year. So much wasted money that could actually be used for legit things, it's disgusting.
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  8. #128
    Maybe I'm wrong...but are we voting for little kids giving the middle finger? Or are we voting for a candidate for president? I don't care about what some random morons in the streets do, as I am not voting for those random morons in the streets...but who I will not vote for is an elderly adult male (Trump) who results to things such as threatening blackmail on his opponents wives, trying to spread insane rumors about an opponent's father having something to do with JFK's death, and resorting to things like "well I only did/said such and such cuz he did it first!". Oh, and lets not forget the fact that Trump is just a downright piece of shit as well.

    I always knew that many mannnnny people in our country were dumber than dirt, but the fact that his supporters are just so willing to turn a blind eye to his downright lies, his childish antics, his repeated failures of being a businessman, how big of a hypocrite he is, and of course what an absolute piece of "human" crap he is...it has truly astonished me. His supporters seemingly forget that we are electing a real person for a very real and ridiculously important job that affects the world, and not electing a character for a tv show. Trump is a fucking character...he's lolllolol sooo funnny! Omg he says whatev he wants!!! He's so non-pc!! So is the crackhead living in the park by you, but the only difference is he's not putting on an act like Trump is. Every candidate for this election has been garbage and Hillary, Cruz and Bernie are complete jokes as well...but voting for Trump is voting for a character, a fake persona, a brand. This is real life and not a tv show, please try to remember that.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Bryntrollian View Post
    Do you really think hating someone because of their political affiliation is a new concept ? Laughable at best.
    Not to the level that Bernie Sanders has inspired lol. I really can't remember seeing little kids yelling "fuck you" to adults depending on how they voted, in the past. I think most would agree, regardless of what side you are on, the country is incredibly divisive right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damajin View Post
    Well then let HBO pay for it and put it on their channel, and the taxpayers keep their money so we can actually get some real shit done.

    In 2014 they spent a billion dollars to destroy 16 billion dollars of 'obsolete and extra' ammunition they had bought in previous years and never used. There's fleets of vehicles and tons of buildings owned by the government that never see use and yet are regularly kept up and refitted despite their lack of use that cost millions upon millions of dollars every single year. So much wasted money that could actually be used for legit things, it's disgusting.
    No argument there about wasteful spending, and our country does a fuck ton of it. I was just wondering how you were going to propose paying for increased border security which I'm not opposed to I'm just opposed to "the wall". I think that is just pointless posturing when just increasing presence at the border completes the same task, if not better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damajin View Post
    I personally wouldn't mind a cut in military budget as it hurts the entire MIC, but no I wasn't referring to that. Each year for the last 7-10 years there's a Wastebook published in Washington that highlights the insane ways that tax dollars are spent and how much. Here's the version for 2015:

    http://www.flake.senate.gov/public/_...k-2015-pdf.pdf

    That particular one showcases over 100 billion dollars in wasted taxpayer money paid out for the previous year, on programs both big and small. This is a yearly problem where governmental largesse just keeps doing this type of shit and in a situation where every dollar matters which is the one we're in now with scrambling to find money to pay for things that actually truly matter these types of wasted funds are inexcusable.

    There'd actually be quite a bit of money to handle both social programs and necessary civil protection like policing our border if we weren't being fleeced like this year after year after year. Citizens on both sides of the aisle would actually be seeing some progress on the things that matter to them. Cutting the military budget would be fine but it also wouldn't be necessary if we were able to actually spend responsibly and put a vice grip on the public coffers so we don't have money being wasted on the study of how Swedish massage affects different kinds of animals and whether or not college kids can become addicted to pizza.
    That seems to be a case of corruption. In which case, if Trump can get rid of corruption I highly advise to vote for him. But that doesn't seem to be one of his policies, or at least I can't find it on his official page. However if corruption stays the same then the guy you were quoting is right. If the system is still corrupt then that money will be taken from taxpayers.

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Annoying View Post
    How did we get from your original post, which was a singular event of singular people acting to comparing versus the protests?

    "None of his supporters have their kids out there acting like this.....adults either."
    and
    "Why do this? All this does is make your side look bad? Trump may be a blowhard, hate monger, hair piece, but can any one show me anything like this from his side? "

    Yet when you're shown exactly something "like this from his side", you move your goalposts from "like this" to something else?
    Its not a singular event, calling a group of 30-40ish "singular people"....ok.....
    "Anything like this" Yes a WALL of Trump supporters hurling swears and insults and passing Bernie or Hileray supporters.

    1 old guy punching another guy is not the same.
    1 douche spitting on another douche is not the same thing.

    Chicago was shut down becasue these militant folks showed up and started with this same shit.

    So, I will spell it out for you, I can find many videos of many Non-Trumpers lined up hurling insults(MANY ORGANIZED FOR ONE PURPOSE), Show me one of the same. Not 1 guy or 2 guys acting out. AN organized protest of hate directed at the oppositions supporters.

    No goal posts were moved, you just cant kick that far.
    READ and be less Ignorant.

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by bollocks View Post
    No really. USA is the only country who has a fence covering their borders. Just to get a VISA you NEED to have someone living there, else hire a travel agency to do the paperwork else you are put in a list that takes in the best cases a year to get.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_barrier

    I'm not trying to be insulting here, but you've watched entirely MSNBC.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by IIamaKing View Post
    No, I mean things like this. I said that. That punch was 1 guy. This is a wall of people acting a fool. Even the basketball incident doesnt compare really.
    I see you've not been into a Trump rally. Or seen one.
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  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    No argument there about wasteful spending, and our country does a fuck ton of it. I was just wondering how you would propose paying for increased border security which I'm not opposed to I'm just opposed to "the wall". I think that is just pointless posturing when just increasing presence at the border completes the same task, if not better.
    It certainly could, I just don't see the wall as pointless posturing. We have national monuments and large scale public works all over this country that testify to the notion of doing it bigger and having a grand vision of things. It says much to our citizens as well as people elsewhere. I certainly don't think you can just build a wall and leave it at that, proper staffing and proper anti tunneling/scaling measures would need to be in place. After that you rely on the ability to monitor the air space above to cover things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_barrier

    I'm not trying to be insulting here, but you've watched entirely MSNBC.
    Sorry I'm not good at English, I forgot to add in the continent, my bad thans for the correction.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by bollocks View Post
    Sorry I'm not good at English, I forgot to add in the continent, my bad thans for the correction.
    Well considering there's only 3 countries in our continent I dont' think that's really a bad thing, especially given the statement you originally made. Canada shares a border with the US, and it's the longest unprotected border in the world. As for Mexico, only in the last few years have they eased up on restrictions for immigrants. Previously it was much more strict then the US, it doesn't take a genius for them to figure out that they have not had much of an immigration problem compared to the US, and likely eased up on their own laws so that they won't appear hypocritical when they criticize the US for tough immigration stances.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Yea Trump supporters don't do anything...

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2547486
    Quote Originally Posted by Cricket22 View Post
    Do you even know what that sign is? It's not threatening deportation. Deportes is a Spanish word, which means "sports"

    So in reality, that sign is just a Spanish advertisement for the TV station "ESPN Sports".

    LOLOL!



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    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    Well considering there's only 3 countries in our continent I dont' think that's really a bad thing, especially given the statement you originally made. Canada shares a border with the US, and it's the longest unprotected border in the world. As for Mexico, only in the last few years have they eased up on restrictions for immigrants. Previously it was much more strict then the US, it doesn't take a genius for them to figure out that they have not had much of an immigration problem compared to the US, and likely eased up on their own laws so that they won't appear hypocritical when they criticize the US for tough immigration stances.
    Oooh you are refering to North America,however North America is a subcontintent of the bigger continet America which includes central, south America and Caribes.

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    what a bunch of lovely mexicans

    why ever does trump want to get rid of them....????

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