John Kasich to Drop out of Presidential Race

[breadisfunny]

To be fair a progressive platform is the anti-thesis of the tea party. I take it he just wants the extremist on both sides ignored

i don't see how wanting stuff like minimum wage to be raised to 15$ is extremist. or better social safety nets. or better healthcare.

[Pangean]

and you are actually trying to draw some kind of equivalence between H. Clintons FBI criminal investigation to some disgruntled Trump university customers filling a law suit claiming they didn't get what they paid for?

shows nothing but sure desperation to even attempt to draw any equivalence

Not drawing it at all. Pointing out the only one going to trial at the moment is Trump for fraud. And it's Eric Schneiderman, New York state's attorney general taking him to trial. But I am sure fraud is excusable when Trump commits it. After all he is part of the establishment. Right Vyxn?

[Cthulhu 2020]

Not drawing it at all. Pointing out the only one going to trial at the moment is Trump for fraud. And it's Eric Schneiderman, New York state's attorney general taking him to trial. But I am sure fraud is excusable when Trump commits it. After all he is part of the establishment. Right Vyxn?

Let's not forget that Trump has actually lost numerous lawsuits, which is more than can be said for Hillary, who has yet to even be indicted.

[Rizendragon]

i don't see how wanting stuff like minimum wage to be raised to 15$ is extremist. or better social safety nets. or better healthcare.

$15 min wage is extremist. To be on par with other developed nations we'd need a $10 min wage... $15 is excessive. This also ignores the fact that free trade agreements nullify any benefit from a $15 dollar min wage.

[Cthulhu 2020]

$15 min wage is extremist. To be on par with other developed nations we'd need a $10 min wage... $15 is excessive.

You should check out the minimum wage/negotiated minimum union wage of many other countries, and not just a couple of cherry picked.

[breadisfunny]

$15 min wage is extremist. To be on par with other developed nations we'd need a $10 min wage... $15 is excessive. This also ignores the fact that free trade agreements nullify any benefit from a $15 dollar min wage.

10$ would have been fine....in 2008.

[Pangean]

Let's not forget that Trump has actually lost numerous lawsuits, which is more than can be said for Hillary, who has yet to even be indicted.

Apparently Trump has been named in 169 Federal lawsuits, including antitrust violations, securities fraud, and breach of contract. He has friends, lots of friends.

[infinitemeridian]

$15 min wage is extremist. To be on par with other developed nations we'd need a $10 min wage... $15 is excessive. This also ignores the fact that free trade agreements nullify any benefit from a $15 dollar min wage.

I would agree that $15 might be excessive in most areas, but adjusted for inflation, the FEDERAL minimum wage should be at least $12, and higher in certain areas where cost of living is higher.

[Zoldor]

but has anyone ever turned it down? thats what i want to know. Also out of curiosity, when did it change from the person that got the most votes became pres and the person with the second most got VP. I think that made for a more fair system.

When the party system was enacted this came to be. When I say party system I say the modern system we have now. I can't remember exactly when that hit, but since then, that is how its worked I'd say pre-FDR sometime during the first 10 to 20 presidents if not earlier.

Also, I did not research and pulling this form memory from years ago, but I almost sure it is right. Which for a game forum polisci question I'm going to be okay with

[Lenonis]

#Trump2016

Ron Paul 2016!!

I suspect Kasich's next gig will give some indication of his motivations for sticking it out this long.

Can't see him accepting the VP slot to Trump. Hard to see who would be willing to potentially go down with the Trump ship -- tarnishing your political career.

[akris15]

$15 min wage is extremist. To be on par with other developed nations we'd need a $10 min wage... $15 is excessive. This also ignores the fact that free trade agreements nullify any benefit from a $15 dollar min wage.

$15 is actually the bare minimum in many metropolitan areas whereas for say a small town in Ohio $15 would be extravagant. Like someone said above the magic number should be 11.25-12 if we followes previous real income trends. Minimum wage needs to be tied to a base + cost of living multiplier (similar to the current gs wage employeed by the federal government) and included at least a 1-2% increase at the beginning of the year to adjust for inflation (the federal government recognizes 1 percent right now but is considered not enough by many). Every 10 years after the census the cost of living multiplier is looked at and if any changes are to be made due to sudden shifts in population or markets it will be adjusted then

[Stommped]

Lol now you get to decide his presidential run wasn't serious? It must be amazing that you get to win all the arguments because you get to decide what the words mean and what count and doesn't count.

On what planet was it serious? Oprah running mate? Reform party? Even you couldn't spin that into a serious attempt at office. It lasted 5 months and helped get his name out there for something bigger (The Apprentice).

[BuckSparkles]

your right buck we should all just go away so you can have your facist dream utopia where there is no political opposition whatsoever.

Man, it's disappointing.

And by that I mean you. When did you become such a frothing partisan?

[Florena]

Ron Paul 2016!!

I suspect Kasich's next gig will give some indication of his motivations for sticking it out this long.

Can't see him accepting the VP slot to Trump. Hard to see who would be willing to potentially go down with the Trump ship -- tarnishing your political career.

I wouldn't assume trump is going down. People have underestimated him from day 1 and now as scary as it is he's going to be the Republican nominee.

[Scratches]

That's a good question... Why isn't Colin Powell under investigation by the FBI for his private server?

The biggest difference between Powell and Clinton is that Powell had both a private server and a government server. Clinton never held a government monitored email server. She deleted over 30,000 emails without any oversight what so ever. That is where it goes into the realm of mishandled documents.

Come on, guys... get better sources, and get your facts right.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...did-same-thin/

How this logical fallacy of ' 'My predecessors did X, thus it must be fine if I do X+1, because X,' ' ever gained any serious traction is absolutely beyond me...

Further reading:
http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillary...rver-to-email/
https://news.vice.com/article/why-th...ls-is-not-over

[Zoldor]

Well he's been in congress for some 25 years. Other than naming libraries, he hasnt affected any change to speak of. Though he is a good counter balance to the far right tea party nuts. Need a far left nut to keep the scale centered.

Which is better than being the VP and showing up for photo ops and leaving. At least in congress you can vote and influence other members of Congress. Then again Cheney ran the show as VP, but I don't see Clinton allowing that. This is her turn to do what she wants. It is her turn to be the leader. It is her turn!

If by nut you mean wanting some semblance of a fair and balanced system not the continuation of trickle down Reagan era BS then yeah a nut. Cause he's totally the same as people that believe in the rapture, end of the world, muslims destroying this great country immigrants being the job problem and the LBGT community ruining the christian values of America. I mean single payer healthcare, paid for secondary education, and a higher tax for the wealthy is nut job level of the tea party then okay. I think you might want to do some research. That Bernie...so crazy!

[infinitemeridian]

$15 is actually the bare minimum in many metropolitan areas whereas for say a small town in Ohio $15 would be extravagant. Like someone said above the magic number should be 11.25-12 if we followes previous real income trends. Minimum wage needs to be tied to a base + cost of living multiplier (similar to the current gs wage employeed by the federal government) and included at least a 1-2% increase at the beginning of the year to adjust for inflation (the federal government recognizes 1 percent right now but is considered not enough by many). Every 10 years after the census the cost of living multiplier is looked at and if any changes are to be made due to sudden shifts in population or markets it will be adjusted then

That depends on whether or not you have children.

This map is very helpful for determining what a living wage would be adjusted for inflation on a county/county basis. For single adults, it barely ever breaches $1.

http://storymaps.esri.com/stories/2015/living-wage-map/

[Felya]

The biggest difference between Powell and Clinton is that Powell had both a private server and a government server. Clinton never held a government monitored email server. She deleted over 30,000 emails without any oversight what so ever. That is where it goes into the realm of mishandled documents.

Neither did Colin Powell...

I know I'm going to get a "consider the source" here, but these are just a few of the examples. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...l-scandal.html

You won't from me...

I do agree there is a double standard, but not in the way the article claims. It's comparing he private sever to those who actually leaked information. The issue with her is not leaking information...

[Wells]

$15 min wage is extremist. To be on par with other developed nations we'd need a $10 min wage... $15 is excessive. This also ignores the fact that free trade agreements nullify any benefit from a $15 dollar min wage.

This is basically watering down "extremist" to the point of "I disagree with you"

[Lenonis]

I wouldn't assume trump is going down. People have underestimated him from day 1 and now as scary as it is he's going to be the Republican nominee.

He's not the leading candidate -- the GOP starts behind on the electoral map and current polling isn't favorable.

Yes, that's by no means a predictor of success, but it's a longshot. There are other issues when you look at demographic polling (which isn't likely to improve) or favorability ratings.

Which means, that as a VP candidate who is most likely looking at a long term strategy, connecting yourself to Trump is EXTREMELY risky, as unless he pulls the long-shot win, you are likely to end up pretty tarnished given his style of campaigning.