Just played a few games in Open Beta

[Archermit]

I will first start here and say I am not a fan of FPS games...I mean I would almost go as far as saying I hate them. But this game seems like it could be a ton of fun, the champions are all diverse with their own style of playing, action is fast pace.

I think Blizzard might be onto a winner here!!

[Binko]

I will first start here and say I am not a fan of FPS games...I mean I would almost go as far as saying I hate them. But this game seems like it could be a ton of fun, the champions are all diverse with their own style of playing, action is fast pace.

I think Blizzard might be onto a winner here!!

The problem I see is that Overwatch is not very casual friendly.

It looks great and has a fantastic selection of heroes. And I like to play outside my typical genres once in awhile. It's the kind of game I'd enjoy playing casually once in awhile. But casual players are just going to be chewed to shreds, especially if they like to play healer or support. And doubly especially if you are just playing with a bunch of randoms.

Also the maps seem incredibly congested. Enemies are on top of you before you know. it. Checking the replays I was constantly destroyed in seconds by enemies that came out of doorways or from behind or from rooftops or that snipe from hidden positions.

This may be a great game if you have a gang of buddies that all want to play together. But casual players who just want to jump in for a little action at random moments are likely to be constantly frustrated.

[Deleted]

I agree the maps are claustrophobic, way too many narrow passages.

[lightofdawn]

i completely agree. i avidly avoided FPS games before overwatch... not gonna say im amazing at it, but it's definitely a good time

[Shaqur]

The problem I see is that Overwatch is not very casual friendly.

It looks great and has a fantastic selection of heroes. And I like to play outside my typical genres once in awhile. It's the kind of game I'd enjoy playing casually once in awhile. But casual players are just going to be chewed to shreds, especially if they like to play healer or support. And doubly especially if you are just playing with a bunch of randoms.

Also the maps seem incredibly congested. Enemies are on top of you before you know. it. Checking the replays I was constantly destroyed in seconds by enemies that came out of doorways or from behind or from rooftops or that snipe from hidden positions.

This may be a great game if you have a gang of buddies that all want to play together. But casual players who just want to jump in for a little action at random moments are likely to be constantly frustrated.

I'm so glad it's not "casual" friendly, tough I let my casual friends try it and they had tons of fun and said it was easy.
So I don't think your statement "not casual friendly" is right, it might just be huge l2p problem.
Game is great! I like the colors, its nice change from all those grey shooters.

[Fayenoor]

For any game of this type that you play, knowing the map is very very important. OW appears to me more like a Quake 3 Arena inspired remake of TF2 with more heroes. Spend some time to know the map - move around; dont worry about winning. You can do this in AI matches if you like.

Unfortunately, since the game's been accessible to a lot of people for a while, the new guys are getting wrecked by the vets because the vets know the maps and the heroes way better. Till you get a grip on the heroes and map or till the devs figure out a better match making, you are going to get wrecked by more experienced players.

[Stormspellz]

TBH I think something that is going to turn off a lot of first time FPS people is torbjn and bastion in pugs, they are completely frustrating and not fun to fight when your team is running around aimlessly staggering deaths like lemmings

[Kathranis]

The most important thing to succeeding in a game like this is learning the maps. When you say "people keep killing me from behind doorways or sniper nests" it just means you don't have enough situational awareness yet.

[Endus]

Not sure I'd say it's "casual friendly", really. It has a fairly decent skill ceiling; a good player will have a massive advantage over a newbie. But it's also relatively easy (for most heroes) to figure out what you can do and how you should use it. Even from the beginning, watching the kill cams showed me EXACTLY what my mistake was. "Oh, I didn't even notice that Bastion sitting there". "I didn't even know Widowmaker could perch up there". And so forth. Yes, there's stuff you need to learn, and practice to get better at, but Overwatch takes pains to give you everything you need to do that.

A game that's not casual friendly is one that hides all that and makes you figure it out for yourself, through repeated punishment.

[Bigbazz]

The problem I see is that Overwatch is not very casual friendly.

It looks great and has a fantastic selection of heroes. And I like to play outside my typical genres once in awhile. It's the kind of game I'd enjoy playing casually once in awhile. But casual players are just going to be chewed to shreds, especially if they like to play healer or support. And doubly especially if you are just playing with a bunch of randoms.

Also the maps seem incredibly congested. Enemies are on top of you before you know. it. Checking the replays I was constantly destroyed in seconds by enemies that came out of doorways or from behind or from rooftops or that snipe from hidden positions.

This may be a great game if you have a gang of buddies that all want to play together. But casual players who just want to jump in for a little action at random moments are likely to be constantly frustrated.

Not casual friendly? Go play Unreal Tournament 4 (no really, it's in alpha/beta now and you can play for free) and then play Overwatch and tell me it's not casual friendly. Overwatch is about as casual friendly as a company could possibly make an arena shooter, and they have done it in a way that sports diverse and interesting gameplay mechanics.

At the end of the day there is only so casual you can make a competitive arena shooter, with that in mind I think Blizzard has pulled it off.

[Malacrass]

I really try to like the game, and as far as I can tell I'm not even THAT bad, but it's not clicking.

Frag called the maps claustrophobic, and I think that pretty much describes my experience as well. Everything looks extremely good, I even warmed up to the Pixxar style, but I'm simply not having fun so far

Oh well, still a few days to form a proper opinion.

[Grishnaar]

I tried it yesterday.

Prior to that, I only saw gameplay on twitch.

I must say I thought it would be less fluid than this. Not sure what I was thinking, it's Blizzard ffs xD

I used to play Quake as a kid a lot so this had a certain nostalgic feeling to it as well. I mean, I played for 3 hours, almost exclusively with Pharah cause of rockets, just for the old time sake xD

I find the game fun!

There's a lot to learn before we can truly enjoy the game. Knowing all classes, abilities, all map places and paths and so on.

I'll play tomorrow more hopefully, so we'll see.

But friend and I had fun!

[Teebone]

Oh well, still a few days to form a proper opinion.

I don't even need that. It's boring and uninspiring. Shame on me for thinking I'd find something new in a Blizzard game.

[DeadmanWalking]

Do we really need a second 'first impression' thread?

[Yriel]

I think they did a great job with the characters. They are really all fun and play different and it's really fun just playing them. I'm especially a fan of Mercy, her abilities are really cool.
I just think the game itself gets boring really fast. The gamemodes seem really same-y, the maps are small and after three or four matches i'm bored.
I mean, even plants vs zombies garden warfare has more diverse gamemodes...

So as long as it's only capture the flag, capture two flags and capture the flag and escort it a little while i guess it's not worth 40-60 bucks to me.

[The7]

I'm terrible at it, i don't know if i'll be playing as much as i thought.
Also, i don't like pvp and the simplicity of the objectives makes the versus AI morde very boring.

[Tojara]

It's casual in the sense that non-seasoned FPS players can jump into the game and mostly succeed without decades of experience aiming and shooting. A lot of the learning curve in the game, at least inherent learning curve is learning what counters what in addition to how each map plays.

A lot of the heroes you can play pretty effective without aiming, which just lends itself to being a bit broader in regards to bringing people who don't play FPS in. It's sort of like them adding Archon mode to SC because while people might have the basics in SC on what they need to build, they generally don't have the APM to actually play it at a high level.

I wish there were more map types, but I don't really get the complain the the maps are too small. Long respawns or giant walk backs don't work in a game where a lot of the heroes move incredibly slow be default. A lot of FPS have big maps mostly because every character moves the same, and in a lot you toggle or hold shift to sprint. In those games it makes sense to have giant maps, otherwise the maps would just feel smaller. You could make the maps bigger, but only if you changed movement across the board.

[DeadmanWalking]

I'm terrible at it, i don't know if i'll be playing as much as i thought.
Also, i don't like pvp and the simplicity of the objectives makes the versus AI morde very boring.

Here is the thing, if you continue to play it even if you suck now, you will get better at it. If you don't, you never will. First you will get massacred, but you will pull off a lucky kill here or there. Then you will notice that your kills are more deliberate but you still die a lot. Then you will start trading kills for deaths, 1 for 1. Then you will notice you get 2 kills for 1 death, and eventually you are on fire with 5 to 1. Then the 11 kill streak. This may happen over a matter of a couple gaming sessions, it may take days or weeks but the important thing is that you will get better.

This isn't the kind of game where you can step in the door and be awesome, it requires skills and you are not born with skills. You have to hone them. If you don't invest time into getting better at this kind of game you never will. I cut my teeth on Quake, Doom and Duke Nukem. Its where I learned to zig zag towards my desination while strafing, it is where I learned missles should be splashed at opponents feet instead of shot at their chests. You have to earn this kind of skill, it isn't like Final Fantasy games where you select your attack and then your target.

If you spend some time in this game you will become phenominal at it, I gaurantee it but you have to put more than a toe in the pool to learn how to swim.

[meheez]

The problem I see is that Overwatch is not very casual friendly.

Not sure how more casual friendly you can get tbh. Its very easy to get into, but hard to master i guess, typical Blizzard.

[DeadmanWalking]

I think they did a great job with the characters. They are really all fun and play different and it's really fun just playing them. I'm especially a fan of Mercy, her abilities are really cool.
I just think the game itself gets boring really fast. The gamemodes seem really same-y, the maps are small and after three or four matches i'm bored.
I mean, even plants vs zombies garden warfare has more diverse gamemodes...

So as long as it's only capture the flag, capture two flags and capture the flag and escort it a little while i guess it's not worth 40-60 bucks to me.

I would like to see a base defence map, one like the Prison in TF, where you had prison yards, a key room and a gas chamber. Prisons face one another and one team has to get in the other prison and get the key from one end and take it to the gas chamber on the other to kill everyone in the enemy prison outside of the gas chamber, some people have to play defence while others play offense. It works better with TF since you could have 20 players per side, 6 is a little rough. But the ideal is you had to decide how much to put on defence and how much to put on offense in the same team.