Skip Tanaan jungle as a freshly dinged lvl 100 player?

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Is it ok, if i just skip Tanaan Jungle? I can get ilvl 700-710 PvP gear in a few days, so why should i farm Tanaan jungle to get ilvl 650 gear if i can start raiding with much better gear? I know it's a PvP gear but even PVP gear with itlv 700+ is much better than lower pve gear, am i right?

[Raiju]

Yes you can skip it. You might as well unlock it for kazzak, though.

[Jtbrig7390]

Tj gear can roll higher then 650 but I can't remeber what the ilvl is. But yes if you want you can skip TJ gearing and just go stright into pvp gear.

There is almost no difference in pvp and pve gear. But remember higher ilvl pvp gear will have lower ilvl in pve.

I would at lease do kazz tho.

[Deleted]

Indeed, tanaan is pretty much just a waste of time unless you're getting CM gear/unlocking shipyard

[Deleted]

Ok than, thanks guys

But remember higher ilvl pvp gear will have lower ilvl in pve

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Are you sure? I know that is the case for high pve gear in PvP ...

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Ok than, thanks guys

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Are you sure? I know that is the case for high pve gear in PvP ...

No. PVP gear has ilvl 700 or 710 (honor/conquest) and that's where it stays in pve. In pvp, it gets *boosted* to 730/740 iirc.

For the record, PVP gear is point for point as effective in PVE as HFC raid gear of the same type and ilvl, e.g. a 700 pvp sword will have the same stats - same damage, same str/stam, same secondary budget - as a 700 (695 + 5 from valor, so 1/2) sword from HFC normal. Same for armor. The only difference is in trinkets and tier, ofc.

At the same time, upgraded baleful (e.g. 695) have *LESS* stats (if only slightly) than raid or pvp items, making them numerically worse than HFC/Ashran gear of the same ilvl.

Source: we had this discussion in our guild once and I calculated it all based on stats given on wowhead.

[JemiS]

It was still competitive with 700 PvP gear, just because the Baleful gear can be valor upgraded (705) while the PvP gear cannot.

710 is better, however.

That said, it's worth unlocking for other reasons- Oil for ship missions, some really good followers (Oronok, for instance) and Kazzak.

[Deleted]

It was still competitive with 700 PvP gear, just because the Baleful gear can be valor upgraded (705) while the PvP gear cannot.

710 is better, however.

That said, it's worth unlocking for other reasons- Oil for ship missions, some really good followers (Oronok, for instance) and Kazzak.

True, although I'd never burn valor on shitty token gear (saving it on mythic dungeon or crafted/kazzak/hfc gear instead). Re: unlocking it - it really depends if you're going for the legendary ring or not. If yes, you have to. If not, fuck it. You can straight up fly to Kazzak (or get a lock summon) and kill it, no need to unlock anything.

[orgonutil]

in tanaa you can get 695 gear + 10 ilvl upgrades to 705, so the fastest way is mix tanaan and pvp to gear

[Aphrel]

Is it ok, if i just skip Tanaan Jungle? I can get ilvl 700-710 PvP gear in a few days, so why should i farm Tanaan jungle to get ilvl 650 gear if i can start raiding with much better gear? I know it's a PvP gear but even PVP gear with itlv 700+ is much better than lower pve gear, am i right?

you wanan unlock shipyard and get revered so you get the oil missions. Theres alot of gold to be gaind from the shipyard.

[Jewsco]

Is it ok, if i just skip Tanaan Jungle? I can get ilvl 700-710 PvP gear in a few days, so why should i farm Tanaan jungle to get ilvl 650 gear if i can start raiding with much better gear? I know it's a PvP gear but even PVP gear with itlv 700+ is much better than lower pve gear, am i right?

If all you are after is the ilevel and then raid for even higher gear then yes. Nothing is really manditory in this game. Do what you like and he game is a lot more fun.

[Lochton]

Is it ok, if i just skip Tanaan Jungle? I can get ilvl 700-710 PvP gear in a few days, so why should i farm Tanaan jungle to get ilvl 650 gear if i can start raiding with much better gear? I know it's a PvP gear but even PVP gear with itlv 700+ is much better than lower pve gear, am i right?

You can skip it if you don't need anything, but Kazzak might be a good assist on equipment.

[Deleted]

It was still competitive with 700 PvP gear, just because the Baleful gear can be valor upgraded (705) while the PvP gear cannot.

710 is better, however.

That said, it's worth unlocking for other reasons- Oil for ship missions, some really good followers (Oronok, for instance) and Kazzak.

I have unlocked Tanaan for oil missions and i also have in mind these followers, but other than that i think i will skip gear farming there ...

Thanks for your replies, guys ...

[TheWindWalker]

Keep in mind, getting a full set of 700 pvp gear is much, much faster than a full set of 705 Baleful and earning 700 gear gets you currency and possibly free drops of 710 gear.

But yeah, the shipyard is a cozy little way to make a decent amount of gold until you get bored of it.

[JemiS]

I have unlocked Tanaan for oil missions and i also have in mind these followers, but other than that i think i will skip gear farming there ...

Thanks for your replies, guys ...

One other thing to keep in mind is that flying around Tanaan and opening re-spawnable treasures is a really quick way to get GR up on new alts, if you're short (you may not be).

Gets Baleful at the same time.

[montana]

tannan is not good for farming gear. you can get pvp gear from asharan. but if you want to fly in draenor i would recommend doing and get gear in the process

[Deleted]

in tanaa you can get 695 gear + 10 ilvl upgrades to 705, so the fastest way is mix tanaan and pvp to gear

Not really "the fastest" - just run Ashran, you'll be rolling in 710 conquest.
Absolutely no need to do Tanaan - unless you're interested in getting the legendary ring.

As others have said, killing Kazzak weekly is a good idea.
You don't have to unlock Tanaan for it, just find a group in the Group Finder and ask them to summon you.

That's all there is to it - Blizzard really messed up with the last PvP season (or well, lack of PvE content to balance it out).