Classic World of Warcraft Discussion [Megathread]

[karatakor]

Now they closed Nostalrius, Blizzard has to take responsibility and come up with an alternative.
They created this issue, not us.
And the best way to accomodate the majority is to release untouched vanilla 1.12. at start, Nostalrius/Kronos style.

[Addict]

Now they closed Nostalrius, Blizzard has to take responsibility and come up with an alternative.
They created this issue, not us.
And the best way to accomodate the majority is to release untouched vanilla 1.12. at start, Nostalrius/Kronos style.

you're the ones paddling it, Nost was going down anyway ,they said so themselves. Stop thinking that blizzard owe you anything.

you want this, you want that. then its your problem, not blizzards. they have been closing illegal private servers that infringe on their IP for a long time, this isnt new.

[Struggle]

you're the ones paddling it, Nost was going down anyway ,they said so themselves. Stop thinking that blizzard owe you anything.

you want this, you want that. then its your problem, not blizzards. they have been closing illegal private servers that infringe on their IP for a long time, this isnt new.

It actually is Blizzard's problem and our problem as well. Legacy servers would put privates out of business instantaneously, and it would net Blizzard more income (and very likely more profit). Not taking advantage of a demand in your market and supplying it is most definitely a problem.

[MardestyGSOG]

Actually assumptions only.

I believe legacy realms are comparably successfull because the game is for free. Well, it's pirated and against blizzards TOS.. but why should those who dislike blizzards success with accessibility care about playing fair as they make blizzard responsible for losing their aspired gamer baby?

Even considering the fact WoW never was catered to aspiring gamers only.

Because it's a superior product than private servers and former wow players who now hate blizzard likely hate them because they cater to the new generation of players and have ignored them and implementing legacy servers would likely alleviate some of that hate

[Addict]

It actually is Blizzard's problem and our problem as well. Legacy servers would put privates out of business instantaneously, and it would net Blizzard more income (and very likely more profit). Not taking advantage of a demand in your market and supplying it is most definitely a problem.

It wouldnt put them out instantly, since quite a lot of people play private over retail due to it being free, they wouldnt suddenly stop playing a free private server to take on blizzards construct, which would probably be with a monthly fee or other expenses. A legal option would be nice for the people that really did want a legacy-ish server, but not everyone that goes to the private servers are struck with nostaliga.

[Monstercloud]

Legacy servers would put privates out of business instantaneously, and it would net Blizzard more income (and very likely more profit).

It's cute you people still thinking this is how it would work.

...it's not.

[apelsinjuice]

People would get bored of vanilla legacy servers after a few months anyway. No new content will be added and when everyone cleared the raids and have the best gear there will be nothing more to do.

[Deleted]

People would get bored of vanilla legacy servers after a few months anyway. No new content will be added and when everyone cleared the raids and have the best gear there will be nothing more to do.

Yeah people got bored with Vanilla real quick.

[Tuesdays]

It actually is Blizzard's problem and our problem as well. Legacy servers would put privates out of business instantaneously, and it would net Blizzard more income (and very likely more profit). Not taking advantage of a demand in your market and supplying it is most definitely a problem.

More of your problem overall.

Blizzard is probably working on the next big thing, it's possible they will make legacy servers, but it's probably not going to be any time soon. More than likely long after you have given up, and nothing really that the current legacy crowd actually wants.

Example:

No heirlooms.
No xp reductions.
All expansions including base game.
Current build system, no tree's.
Mounts at 40 and 60, flying at 70, 78, 85 and 100+meta.
Time-walking at any level.
LFR-LFD still exist.

I just don't think Blizzard would want to revise the past, when they can just modify the existing experience, especially if they could do it as a F2P version with micro-transactions as a "this is what WoW once was" living museum.

[kunah]

Been offline. Not practical to go through and read this entire thread, Last time I looked blizzard was going meet with Nostralius/Mark Kern/?.

What is the state of Nostralius/legacy servers atm? Any word of this happening/not happening?

[Tuesdays]

Yeah people got bored with Vanilla real quick.

Did you play any mmos prior to WoW? They weren't very good compared to vanilla, and the game has gotten better over the years.

Cigarettes had the same climb and descend, do you think smoking is still a good thing?

[Gavan]

Been offline. Not practical to go through and read this entire thread, Last time I looked blizzard was going meet with Nostralius/Mark Kern/?.

What is the state of Nostralius/legacy servers atm? Any word of this happening/not happening?

Nost received a C&D letter from Blizzard and complied, so that's done and the server is shut down.

Blizzard has agreed to a meeting in the near future with the Nost admin/dev team. It's being coordinated by Mark Kern, one of the original creators of Classic WoW.

No dates as of yet, because Mike (Blizzard CEO) is booked for the next couple of weeks, as is normal for someone at his business level.


More information is available via Nost and Mark's Twitter feeds and likely will show on this thread and Reddit.

[Eleccybubb]

Nost received a C&D letter from Blizzard and complied, so that's done and the server is shut down.

Blizzard has agreed to a meeting in the near future with the Nost admin/dev team. It's being coordinated by Mark Kern, one of the original creators of Classic WoW.

No dates as of yet, because Mike (Blizzard CEO) is booked for the next couple of weeks, as is normal for someone at his business level.


More information is available via Nost and Mark's Twitter feeds and likely will show on this thread and Reddit.

Uhm meetings already happened mate.

[kunah]

Nost received a C&D letter from Blizzard and complied, so that's done and the server is shut down.

Blizzard has agreed to a meeting in the near future with the Nost admin/dev team. It's being coordinated by Mark Kern, one of the original creators of Classic WoW.

No dates as of yet, because Mike (Blizzard CEO) is booked for the next couple of weeks, as is normal for someone at his business level.


More information is available via Nost and Mark's Twitter feeds and likely will show on this thread and Reddit.

Cool,,, Thanks Gavan,,, I will start following Kern on twitter.

[Erwarth]

If World of Warcraft 1.0 was released today, it will be crushed by the concurrence. (FFXIV / SWTOR / GW2 / Others...)

[apelsinjuice]

Yeah people got bored with Vanilla real quick.

Comparing a completely new game and experience to a 12 year old game and you dont think people would get tired. The only people who is interested in playing vanilla is the people who already did it and they will consume all vanilla content in a few months and then quit again, everyone else would hate it and quit very fast.

[Eleccybubb]

If World of Warcraft 1.0 was released today, it will be crushed by the concurrence. (FFXIV / SWTOR / GW2 / Others...)

I highly doubt that since it would be coming off the back end of a huge franchise. FF14 has around 1 mil subs and GW2 has around a few hundred thousand players. As for SWTOR no idea haven't payed attention to that. Maybe without Wow they would have more players but I doubt around 12 million for one game or combined. Oh and let's not forget WoW was the formula for most of those MMOs today so which game would be the formula?

[Gavan]

Uhm meetings already happened mate.

Initial scheduling and coordination happened, not the full official one.

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/728637209243357184


Also, Mark and the Nost team are running polls and surveys for information gathering. There's a huge attempt to do this "right" if it goes off.

[Gondorian]

Uhm meetings already happened mate.

You are misinformed, the announcement that was made prior was that they are in the works to have meetings. Michael Morheime is busy because, you know, he's a CEO. Based on what Mark Kern originally said, they're hoping for a meeting next week. Also to mention, the Nostalrius Devs and Mark are most likely going to be meeting on separate dates.

[Eleccybubb]

Initial scheduling and coordination happened, not the full official one.

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/728637209243357184


Also, Mark and the Nost team are running polls and surveys for information gathering. There's a huge attempt to do this "right" if it goes off.

Fair play. My bad