Bastion is just anti-fun -.-

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Yeah and then the bastion has reinhardt shield in front of him, nice hook m8.

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Funny, just yesterday I've watched an Overwatch tournament on Twitch where they played Bastion. I think it was Cloud 9.

I did say few not none! Hes not a very common pick though like mc cree or zarya

[shammypie]

Yeah and then the bastion has reinhardt shield in front of him, nice hook m8.

lol play symetra and fire a plasma ball right at, duck, shoot, charge repeat

[Omnoms]

Eugh.
The game is more or less a literal rock-papers-scissors style game. THis is why you can switch. Just.Switch.Adapt.

Ho-lawdy do I hope that they don't listen to the general playerbase in this regard.

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Eugh.
The game is more or less a literal rock-papers-scissors style game. THis is why you can switch. Just.Switch.Adapt.

Ho-lawdy do I hope that they don't listen to the general playerbase in this regard.

/thread pretty much

[Endus]

I really wonder what kind of Bastions you play against if you can just walk up to him and hook.

Whip around a corner, or hug the payload, or any such thing. It's really not that hard, typically.

If I'm not hugging the payload as Roadhog, I'm often trying to sneak around the sides anyway. Roadhog shines as a roamer.

[Sky High]

as Junkrat I can make even a Bastion's life hell. so many times I have creeped up on one with a concussion mine or just banked a few nads his way.

[Endus]

I do find it funny that - given the design of the character - Roadhog actually does really well as a roamer/flanker. At least in puggie matches, I dunno about organized play.

Each of the tanks play really differently. Reinhardt's the only one who's great for standing on a point and soaking all comers, but he needs babysitting by the team to do so, since he's not killing doods when he's shielded up. Zarya's got way less resilience, and is a risk/reward tank; if you can get them to charge you up, she can do a TON of damage, but she doesn't have the resilience of the others. Winston's a disruptor, who just causes mayhem when he launches in. And Roadhog, as I said, is a roamer/assassin, with huge self-sustain for surviving 1v1s.

If you want to sit on the payload and escort it, Reinhardt's probably best. The others are gonna be more mobile about their behaviour.

[Sky High]

I do find it funny that - given the design of the character - Roadhog actually does really well as a roamer/flanker. At least in puggie matches, I dunno about organized play.

in a number of team games I've played with him he's shined. in Hollywood you can sneak off and get behind the team before the coke point or scramble to the objective. feed him the squishes.

[Kuniku]

Bastion is fairly powerful if you leave him be, but most characters have means of killing him, heck as a Zenyatta main I can usually take Bastion out once I know where he is.

[Sky High]

"Ogre Ninja" comes to mind.

now he needs an Oni skin.

[Omnoms]

Bastion is fairly powerful if you leave him be, but most characters have means of killing him, heck as a Zenyatta main I can usually take Bastion out once I know where he is.

Zenyatta, Kenji, Pharrah to name a few that just utterly eat him with a bit of positioning shenanigans.

I'd actually wager a good Thorbjörn poses a bigger threat, given that he can save his ult for a heal in a key moment and have two areas of effect.

[Ringthane]

If they do not learn, are not willing to learn, they should not play it. That is not really an argument - what would you tell a kiddo, which wants to play water polo, but is not willing to learn to swim? Or play Ice hockey, but does not want to learn how to ice skate? Should they remake the rules of those sports for everyone being able to play them?

Well, let's ask the developers of Wildstar how successful they were when they catered to only the top players.

Oh, wait...

[Ferrair]

Complaining about Bastion?

Wait til a solid McCree manages to get behind your team, watch him stun + 1 shot your team mates over and over and over... and over.. and over again.

Or a good Reaper, teleporting everywhere, backstabbing your team.

Or a Genji/Tracer, endless harassment.

I hate good McCrees with a passion, stun and 1 shot, didn't get the kill? simply roll with auto reload and try again.

[Ringthane]

also what your saying is "this guy is playing rock paper scissors but he only ever plays paper, he will quit cause he wont learn mabye playing other hands is better" its a game about switching and countering your enemy, might as well play chess but only use your pawns cause you dont want to learn how the others move

Or you could, as I just said, ask the developers of Wildstar how well their game did when they catered to the top players.

I know I already made this point, but it is so important and insightful I felt it needed to be made twice. Apologists, off you go!

[Endus]

Or you could, as I just said, ask the developers of Wildstar how well their game did when they catered to the top players.

I know I already made this point, but it is so important and insightful I felt it needed to be made twice. Apologists, off you go!

Nobody but you is talking about "top players". Understanding how the heroes work is something pretty much anyone can pick up over a few hours of playtime.

[Omnoms]

Nobody but you is talking about "top players". Understanding how the heroes work is something pretty much anyone can pick up over a few hours of playtime.

*Ding ding ding*

" I did not spend time getting good at this game, yet I want it to cater around my personal ability(or inability) to spend time on it"
Sigh, gamer entitlement.
There are mountains of difference between catering to top players, and simply asking people to work out what counters what.
(which you don't even need to nowadays. The internet can flat out tell you what to counter pick with.)

[Gib Lover]

Serious question, what mechanics do you think are too arcane or obfuscated for players to pick up quickly?

Yeah for real...
This game is super simple.

[Rhaide]

I have zero idea what blizzard was thinking when they implemented this champion. Yes I know he has his counters the few that exist, but trying to kill a bastion with a bunch of random people is a fucking nightmare. Trying to get everyone to group up and not run in single file only to be mowed down by his left click to win auto attack >.> And god forbid the defense team actually protects the bastion as well...have fun with that lol

Pick up a winston, get your ultimate charged up, wait for a few teammates to be running in that direction and jump in/ult from the flank. I've done this numerous times, even in pubs.

This is one of the BEST WAYS to stop an organized defense.

[Sevyvia]

I have zero idea what blizzard was thinking when they implemented this champion. Yes I know he has his counters the few that exist, but trying to kill a bastion with a bunch of random people is a fucking nightmare. Trying to get everyone to group up and not run in single file only to be mowed down by his left click to win auto attack >.> And god forbid the defense team actually protects the bastion as well...have fun with that lol

Found the sub-level 10?