My fiance and I have talked about me getting into politics. Doing the whole God, Guns, Gays and Gynecology shtick that the conservatives around here greedily lap up any chance they get. Getting elected and actually doing some good instead of the usual poisoning constituents for profit or forcing young girls to carry the product of rape and incest to term. She thinks I couldn't keep up the unhinged facade. She's probably right
There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." - Isaac Asimov
Indeed. There is not a forty-year history of people running for president turning over their emails (or time-based equivalent) nor speeches to the public. Neither of which, by the way, put them under oath.
There is a forty-year history of people running for president turning over their tax returns to the public. For which they are under oath.
The transcripts of Wall Street speeches might make Clinton look like a hypocrite. The tax returns would provide 100% proof of such.
Also, Trump has said that Clinton shouldn't run for President while under federal investigation. Then refuses to turn over his tax returns because he's being audited. Which is a federal investigation. He calls the audit routine (why wouldn't he, he's been audited every year for 12 years. How incompetent is he at filing taxes anyhow?) which isn't helping matters, but if this really is such a "nothing" audit, then what's the holdup? Either releasing his tax records could get him into serious trouble -- legal or otherwise -- or they wouldn't. His desire to withhold them implies the former.
And no, "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to people who asked Romney to reveal his taxes in 2012.
Yup. The topping on the cake is his desperate claims that there is nothing to learn from the returns and voters aren't interested in them. Because as you say if he is really being audited for 12 years there's some interesting things in them returns.
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Yes it is. And he believes it matters not what he does his supporters will still support him. That's the point and why he "told" the story.
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
I posted both Hillary and Trump platform for you already. But, here they are again:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
This is an actual record for what both specifically outline. Not rhetoric at the moment, but their actual defined policy. As I said, I am fine with you thinking that Hillary's are bullshit. But, as I pointed out already, I am asking you to read Trump's, without saying he is making it up as he goes along. Unlike Hillary, you don't have to say Trump is making it up as he goes along to make his policy look bad. They are horrible, without any catch... Me being against Trump is not based on me claiming he lied or his policy is too good to be true, it's pointing to his actual defined policy.
Check my post history if you don't believe me. When I'm saying Trump is a horrible candidate, I don't point to the media or blame banks. I point to his own site and YouTube page...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
Here is the video from Jan 24th. He says the polls say he could do this. However...where was the poll, from before Jan 24th, that asked this question? Or is this Trump's interpretation of his poll standings, and therefore, that he did say it?
Oh wait, he said later he was joking. There was no poll. He wasn't quoting someone. He was, in fact, saying he could do it. There was no twisting of facts here. Well, not by Pangean, anyhow.
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
I want to see what happens when he calls out Hillary for her Goldman Sachs connection, as he did with Cruz. Now that his self financing is gone and he hired a former Goldman Sachs partner as his campaign finance manager. Now he has a campaign manager who is a former Koch brothers booster for Prosperity for America super pac, while being anti-establishment. As well as a campaign finance manager who is a former Goldman Sachs partner, while being anti-Wallstreet.
http://youtu.be/spo1jK4CCEU
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." - Isaac Asimov
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
Legally getting around paying less taxes does not matter. Again, show me someone who does not try to reduce their taxes. Him not being worth what he claims does not mean shit in the long run. The whole releasing tax returns for candidates is silly if you ask me. What are you hoping to get from it?
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
I watched the video. He was saying as if he could to show how loyal his supporters are and there is a suggestion ," it is like they are saying I could shoot someone and they still would support me ". So I take back that about Pangean trying to twist the facts, but it was not a serous remark, but a silly statement to how loyal some of his supporters are. Still no big deal for a lot of people apparently . As millions have voted for him and will this Nov.
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But you support Hillary?
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This one is not that big of one for a lot people.
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
I believe trump realizes that best case his taxes will just be something the left/msnbc/Romney/#nevertrump people will twist to attack him on all the way to November (even if there aren't any major surprises to be found). The flak he gets from not releasing it is probably much less then if he does. Obviously if you don't like trump you will find this as highly egregious and more validation that Trump is terrible and shouldn't be president.
I think id be more interested in a full audit of the Clinton foundation and who and how much is donating to that.
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