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    If there's a reason to-like if they're being investigated for fraud or some-such. Otherwise, it just looks a lot like dick waving. Yay, I've got more money than you. See.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrigglyPuff View Post
    All I can find is that Trump gave advice to Romney about releasing his returns, and that Trump felt it hurt Romney by not releasing them in a timely manner.
    Your issue is the word 'bashed' and not the fact that Trump realized Romney's folly, but not his own? April first is over a month ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grogo View Post
    Here is what you will get if Trump releases his tax returns:

    1) he is no where as ritch as he says he is, he may not even be a billionaire

    2) He gives fuck all to charities even though he says he does

    3) He uses every loop hole in the book to avoid paying taxes

    4) He ruins companies to cash in on their failures

    5) Many of his own businesses have a large failure rate

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    He has also demanded other Politicians in the past release their tax returns, now he will not do his own. He is a big fat phony.
    Uh, I don't think you understand what tax returns show and what they don't show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayden54 View Post
    Otherwise, it just looks a lot like dick waving. Yay, I've got more money than you. See.
    You mean the entire justification for Trump as president? He has no issue with waving his dick, that's his calling card. The problem is that every candidate has dropped their dicks to be measured, while Trump is still just waving his around. Take away Trump's bloviating over being rich and he has nothing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrigglyPuff View Post
    That is some amazing re-writing of history.

    Can you link some articles where Trump "bashed" Romney about his returns.

    All I can find is that Trump gave advice to Romney about releasing his returns, and that Trump felt it hurt Romney by not releasing them in a timely manner.
    And that timely manner was January...... Trump said he thought Romney should have release his taxes at least by April 1st, but since he had brought them up it was hurting him by not releasing them and that he should release them now (Now being January 2012).

    So Trump thinks Romney needs to release in January of the election year, while Tantrum Trump is too good for all that and shouldn't have to release at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrigglyPuff View Post
    Uh, I don't think you understand what tax returns show and what they don't show.
    Yeah, there's zero mention of wealth beyond earnings. If he had $70b in the bank and only made $20 last year, you'd only see the $20.

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    Ironic, when you consider his #obamabirthcertificate tantrum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I don't think it has to do with his casino, but the fact that he's directly profiting off of his campaign.
    What I was referring to was in the past when he's needed to show his tax returns to gambling officials to place bids on casinos, he has released his taxes to them even while being audited.

    So when it comes to bidding on a casino, releasing taxes while under audit is the right thing to do.

    When running for President and being under audit apparently a 40 year precedent and the American people mean less to him because releasing them isn't worth his time. But it was when he bid on casinos.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/11/politi...s-tax-returns/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Ironic, when you consider his #obamabirthcertificate tantrum
    I think you meant tantrump.
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    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That doesn't actually mean anything.
    Could care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    People releasing tax information is bad precedent. His financial affairs are a private matter, much like yours and mine.
    personally i think that anyone who will be setting tax policy for others should be made to show how that policy impacts them.

    plus every candidate does it.....

    And Trump himself said he would....but then Trump says he'll do a lot of things which he will go back on.

  12. #292
    On one hand, putting out your tax releases seems like a simple thing to do. On the other hand, Trumps finances are more complicated than basically every major presidential candidate since the beginning of time put together.

    My hunch is it shows a relatively low personal income with a low rate paid, and a lot of money off of capital gains or something that has him at what seems like a relatively low rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Nurot View Post
    So speeches done for financial gain should count, but tax records showing how much an individual may have avoided paying, (if at all), and showing actual earn income is bad?

    So when do we get access to every speech Trump has made behind closed doors? I'd settle for him thumbing trough Trumped! and giving a fact check on any portion of that book.
    It's supposed to highlight the hypocrisy by the Clinton campaign.

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    He won't release them because then everyone would know he is a fraud and not as rich as he says he is.

    He should, but he won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That's cognitive dissonance... You are supporting Trump in him not wanting to show his tax records... Get some what?
    Cognitive dissonance? What does a freshman psych 101 term have to do with the conversation? Inconsistency (in attitude) would have to be bench-marked against several other statements, so "cognitive dissonance" isn't really the correct word to use.

    I'm not supporting Trump at all, you can say what you want, that doesn't make it true. I don't want to see anyone's tax records, it's stupid and pointless and you have yet to show how it adds anything positive to the race.

    He even stated himself that he gets audited each year, if something was going to be found it would have been brought to light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoying View Post
    Yeah, there's zero mention of wealth beyond earnings. If he had $70b in the bank and only made $20 last year, you'd only see the $20.
    And if he has a half decent accountant you won't see much since most of the magic will happen within corporations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Vote Garry Johnson instead of Trump... Don't support the establishment by believing that any alternative to R and D, is just another R and D.

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    Na. I think Hillary is the worse of the two choices. This year, there will be a lot of voters are not voting for someone so much as voting against someone. I do agree completely with some of Trump's policies. And not happy with how things have gone under Obama and Hillary will only continue that or make them even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Na. I think Hillary is the worse of the two choices. This year, there will be a lot of voters are not voting for someone so much as voting against someone. I do agree completely with some of Trump's policies. And not happy with how things have gone under Obama and Hillary will only continue that or make them even worse.
    I agree that there will be a lot of votes against particular candidates - while I'm also unhappy with much that Obama is done, and think I'll also be unhappy with Hillary, I'll be voting against Trump myself, because I cannot see how electing an egotistical con-artist ignoramus who caters to the nation's absolute worst impulses would be anything but an utter disaster.

    You say that you "agree completely with some of Trump's policies" - could you please share what those are? To the best of my knowledge, Trump hasn't proposed policies, just different flavors of contradictory lies.
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    I agree that there will be a lot of votes against particular candidates - while I'm also unhappy with much that Obama is done, and think I'll also be unhappy with Hillary, I'll be voting against Trump myself, because I cannot see how electing an egotistical con-artist ignoramus who caters to the nation's absolute worst impulses would be anything but an utter disaster.

    You say that you "agree completely with some of Trump's policies" - could you please share what those are? To the best of my knowledge, Trump hasn't proposed policies, just different flavors of contradictory lies.
    Stricter enforcement of illegal immigration laws ( while not in complete agreement on how that should be handled ), fairer trade deals which encourage companies to keep factories here, pro 2nd amendment, pro life, building up the military, better treatment for veterans, to name some major ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izalia View Post
    I don't want to see anyone's tax records, it's stupid and pointless and you have yet to show how it adds anything positive to the race.
    He even stated himself that he gets audited each year, if something was going to be found it would have been brought to light.
    If that something was illegal, yes.
    And what if the something(s) show that he has conflicts of interest? That he could personally profit from certain actions as President due to his holdings, or that he is receiving income from sources that compromise his objectivity.

    You think it's "stupid and pointless" to know these things before we hand over the most powerful position in the world to him?
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