Why is there no AH cut on Gametokens?

[Kezotar]

Wouldn't it contribute to gold dumps?

[Xofa]

No it wouldn't

[Deleted]

It's mentioned in the FAQ
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/181...token-3-2-2015

Q: Is there a deposit? Does the Auction House take a cut of the Token seller’s gold?

A: There’s no deposit, and the Auction House does not take a cut of the gold for WoW Token sales. The standard deposit is designed to dissuade players from spamming the auction house with items that aren’t selling, and the standard cut is designed to dissuade players from buying and reselling items for minuscule markups. These issues don’t apply to the WoW Token, so there’s no need for a deposit or cut.

[Kezotar]

No it wouldn't

As far as I can tell it would. Actually it would remove 5% of all the gold from the tokens.
And that's money going from players to other players.

It's mentioned in the FAQ
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/181...token-3-2-2015

Q: Is there a deposit? Does the Auction House take a cut of the Token seller’s gold?

A: There’s no deposit, and the Auction House does not take a cut of the gold for WoW Token sales. The standard deposit is designed to dissuade players from spamming the auction house with items that aren’t selling, and the standard cut is designed to dissuade players from buying and reselling items for minuscule markups. These issues don’t apply to the WoW Token, so there’s no need for a deposit or cut.

You can't resell WoW tokens, so that makes no sense?

[Daedius]

Blizz wants to encourage people to buy and sell WoW Tokens... not dissuade them...

[Rivin]

As far as I can tell it would. Actually it would remove 5% of all the gold from the tokens.
And that's money going from players to other players.

The AH cut doesn't go to anyone, it disappears.

[dacoolist]

Gaming tokens are paid for with real money - the entire sum of the token itself is more than a months game time - the ah cut would only make people more angry then already having to spend real money to get in game currency - also/also: Blizz did this to attempt to curb in game gold farmers, making this a legal way to get in game gold (other than tcg items of course-which btw, wasn't even tradable in game until mid Wrath).

[Queen of Hamsters]

As far as I can tell it would. Actually it would remove 5% of all the gold from the tokens.
And that's money going from players to other players.



You can't resell WoW tokens, so that makes no sense?

Ah yes, the people designing the system don't know why they did a certain thing even when they explain why they did it.

[Deleted]

You can't resell WoW tokens, so that makes no sense?

Yeah, none of situations where AH taking a cut applies to the token, therefore there's no need to have the cut.

[Kezotar]

Gaming tokens are paid for with real money - the entire sum of the token itself is more than a months game time - the ah cut would only make people more angry then already having to spend real money to get in game currency - also/also: Blizz did this to attempt to curb in game gold farmers, making this a legal way to get in game gold (other than tcg items of course-which btw, wasn't even tradable in game until mid Wrath).

Angry? Are you angry because you pay taxes? Haha.

Yeah, none of situations where AH taking a cut applies to the token, therefore there's no need to have the cut.

Oh I see, so the only reason Blizzard put out the cut is so that players wont be buying items for resales?
You'll still be able to make resales. And the 5% cut wouldn't really make much difference. Prices will just be 5% higher than the original price to begin with. But I see it now, would still be nice to get rid of the excess gold somehow, no?

[Deleted]

would still be nice to get rid of the excess gold somehow, no?

Why would they want to do such thing?
They want people to have as much gold as possible.

[Kezotar]

Why would they want to do such thing?
They want people to have as much gold as possible.

They do? Why would they want to do such a thing?
End up having green items for people leveling at 10,000 Gold? I mean, I know that because of xmogs they're really high, but those items not used in xmogs are also hitting 50-100g. For a fresh players that's a lot.

Inb4 - go level up you get better rewards. then whats the purpose of low level auction house..

[klogaroth]

You don't really need to as a direct response to the creation of the token since it doesn't expand the overall economy.

When you farm some mats or loot some gold/items from a dead mob you increase the total value of the in game economy. More resources, loot or currency exists in game than previously existed.

When a WoW token is purchased the overall size of the economy remains static. All that is created is sub time, something which isn't really a part of the economy. It just exists alongside it.

Could a cut be taken as an additional gold sink to further limit inflation in game? Yes.
Blizzard didn't really feel the need to place that gold sink here though, they'd rather put gold sinks elsewhere. Especially since this method will overall result in more money for them from the same amount of overall game time purchased. They'd quite like to incentivize the system by not putting a gold sink into it.

[ablib]

would still be nice to get rid of the excess gold somehow, no?

And the first thing that popped into your head was the token?

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Why would they want to do such thing?
They want people to have as much gold as possible.

Can't tell if this is sarcasm, but removing gold from the economy is something that should be of interest to everybody -- including Blizzard.

[Kezotar]

And the first thing that popped into your head was the token?

Because regular auctions have a cut. Game Tokens don't have one. Why?

[Deleted]

Well tokens are still quiet cheap. Dunno what the problem is.

[Deleted]

They do? Why would they want to do such a thing?
End up having green items for people leveling at 10,000 Gold? I mean, I know that because of xmogs they're really high, but those items not used in xmogs are also hitting 50-100g. For a fresh players that's a lot.

Inb4 - go level up you get better rewards. then whats the purpose of low level auction house..

They've put huge resources into stopping illegal gold sellers (and gold farmers).
Inflating the gold value is one - they want people to have tons of gold, so they can buy stuff without buying illegal gold
The other thing is the token - which allows people to buy legit gold.

[ablib]

Because regular auctions have a cut. Game Tokens don't have one. Why?

The why has already been answered.

To combat inflation you target areas that affect the most players. Increasing the repair cost and the AH cut, would do more than adding the 5% to token purchases.

[Deleted]

Can't tell if this is sarcasm, but removing gold from the economy is something that should be of interest to everybody -- including Blizzard.

Why? What good would come from removing gold drastically?

[Darsithis]

The explanation was already given in the third post:

It's mentioned in the FAQ
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/181...token-3-2-2015

Q: Is there a deposit? Does the Auction House take a cut of the Token seller’s gold?

A: There’s no deposit, and the Auction House does not take a cut of the gold for WoW Token sales. The standard deposit is designed to dissuade players from spamming the auction house with items that aren’t selling, and the standard cut is designed to dissuade players from buying and reselling items for minuscule markups. These issues don’t apply to the WoW Token, so there’s no need for a deposit or cut.

There is really nothing else to say or argue about.