They already knew she had dragons, but just assumed that the legends surrounding the hatching were just that, legends. They probably didn't even believed the dragon tales either, given that dragons have faded into myth for a long time now.
And it doesn't matter how battle-hardened you are, EVERYONE loses their shit at the thought of being trapped in a burning building. They were also probably scared shitless of the pale girl who somehow wasn't burning despite being at the epicenter of a blazing inferno. I know I would be if I saw someone torching my building but standing serene among the flames grinning at me like a psycho. I'd try my hardest to get the fuck away. As far and as quick as I could.
Por que odiar si amar es mas dulce? (*^_^*)
I knew who you were responding to. I responded anyway. I'm allowed to do that on a public forum.
We have no reason to believe they'd ever seen her dragons.And I didn't get that sense at all. They laughed at her sure. But I don't think they were necessarily dismissing that fact out of hand. It was common knowledge in that region of the world by that point.
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What's glorious is how snarky he's been to people the entire time, yet he has the gall to tone police the rest of the thread.
You responded as if I had been addressing you, when I was talking to someone else. Now you're evading that and calling me the hypocrite...
And to be clear as to why this started:
This is the post that got me started on "book vrs show" and the policing you're complaining about. This is Derah's entrance. I think some pushback was not only warranted, but inevitable. This is the thread that was made for talking about the story as displayed both both books and show. There is another thread, which has been active, that is meant to be the discussion on show alone. It's really not meant to be a "get out of my thread!" statement. So much as it's explaining that if it really does bother you, there's another place you can go where it won't happen, because it's designed entirely for you.
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If we're talking explicitly and specifically about the show, rolling and and going, "This can't happen because in the books it's not true, therefore it's not true in the show" is dumb.
It's still dumb no matter how much you, or anyone else, tries to defend it. It's dumb as a box of rocks. Dumb as dirt. Etc.
And this is the thread that is getting the most attention from fans of the show/books. People are well within their rights to discuss what happened on the show and don't have to be bombarded by people yelling about what happened in the books and Y thing is impossible. This thread is for BOTH the show AND the books. You are not required to discuss the books when mentioning things in the show.
Now stop acting like a mod telling people where to go post? It is getting annoying.
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Call it what you want. You are trying to bash on people for discussing TV show elements when they don't want to refer to thins in the books. Why? Because the books and TV show are different and the TV show deviated on MANY facets from the books ages ago.
Except that particular discussion strayed into "it's this way in the books too". I didn't say it absolutely could not happen in the show. I even agreed that it is very different between the two. Stop strawmanning my statements.
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Except I'm not bashing anyone for discussing TV show elements. I didn't say it was impossible within the show. GFJC.
If we're going to take the two together, yes the story is going to mean different things. And while you can choose to not discuss the books, I can choose to include them for a larger picture, or the show alone as well.
Edit: And Winter Blossom, I found the snapback scene (season 3). She very clearly reacts in fear, however only in anticipation (no explicit fire). As such, I'm going to call it far too ambiguous as evidence (could just be fear of being bitten). And certainly not being burned at all. Apologies for any confusion on my part. I stand by my statements re: GRRM's comments of course. But you're quite right about not being burned in that scene.
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Did you expect GRRM to reply with "Yeah she will do that trick again in the future. Stay tuned."? It would've been a major spoiler don't you think? Hence "Probably not".
Also I recently re-watched the first season and in the episode where she unknowingly sacrifices her unborn baby to save her husband - the woman who did the blood magic described her unborn baby as having scales and bat-like wings. Dany is the mother of dragons, like literally. Maybe that's why she is so resistant/immune to fire.
Fits the lore in my books. (pun intended)
All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side
Oh, a new episode ! Oh, as usual, 10 pages of people bitching uselessly about book vs show ! Now, that's my Monday morning as I like it
What I thought about the episode :
- Yay, Sansa reunited with Jon !
- Smug Brienne is smug. Poor Davos
- Snarky Littlefinger is snarky. Damn I've missed him
- We've finally got a good Tyrion moment \o/
- Shit will definetely be going down in King's Landing.
- I didn't think they would off Osha this soon.
- We finally got THE PINK LETTER ! \o/
- Dany went out of the fire unburned. We've already seen that in season 1 though, I had a little feeling of déjà-vu
What is going North is still the strongest thing happening imo, but KL come second, now that Cersei's pulling strings.
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OMG 13:37 - Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Cleave unto me, and I shall grant to thee the blessing of eternal salvation."
And His disciples said unto Him, "Can we get Kings instead?"
Ooooohhhhh.
I AM HYPED GUYS §
Great episode:
Dany immune to fire again. Maybe she can't do it always.
Finally two Starks unite.
Thank God no Dorne again.
And something I found suspicious: Jon telling Sansa: YOUR father would kill me. Isn't Ned supposed to be Jon's father? Or does Jon already know?
And lol at that preview. Yeah Bran is only having visions. Thats why they are all looking at him. But some people will just call that bad writing again.
North was fine again, exept the Brienne and Davos scene made me cringe.
Tyrion carries the Mereen storyline.
No comment on Daenarys ...
"If you are what you HAVE and you lose what you have, what then are you? But if you are what you ARE and you lose what you have, no man controls your destiny".
I think one thing many of us, myself included, do not realize is stuff like casting and labor laws. They merged a lot of characters together just to keep the cast from becoming too big. I know the way they schedule their shooting, it makes it horrible to have children under 18 in many scenes (scenes shot at night). I think it was the guy who played the hound in an interview, said he loved working with Arya because it guaranteed him a short work day.
Anyway, it would be interesting to see how many of the ´changes´ made from the books were done purely because of a logistical reason, and not just creative reasons as many here blame D&D for doing. Just thinking about all of the people who are under 18 and who are thrown all over the different locations, it must be a nightmare.
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But because we do not know the ending, we do not know what parts of the books are important to maintain. It is like if we go back to season one and argue over some minor change... but then by season 3, we realize that Rob and Renly are dead, so no small detail the show changed about their character mattered anyway. We have no way of knowing what matters, but I am sure that Martin knows what is going on and gets to read the scripts way ahead of time.
So the real question is...how does this affect Dany's title? Are they going to say "The Unburnt" again or maybe "The Twice Unburnt?"