Why nobody ever gets fired at Blizzard?

[Marhault]

Tseric's departure from Blizzard is probably as close as they would ever say if someone was fired, and even then it's in question if he quit or was let go.

[melodramocracy]

As far as I know

Exactly why do you think employee dismissal would be made public by either the employee or employer?

[Einsz]

They will never publicly say someone got fired. In reality probably most of people who "left Blizzard to work on their own project/company/whatever" got fired or "you are fired but you can resign or announce that you quit for xyz".

[Viikkis]

Mike Morhaime is too nice he doesn't want to fire anyone.

[Sansnom]

But making it look as if they keep anyone despite of the failures in last years gives customers a bad message too. Do they even care?

What failures? For making things that you do not like?

People are normally released due to consistent gross incompetence or something serious, like improper conduct. Even if individual employee has shown to perform poorly, some companies usually retain the employee and tried to resolve and improve the individuals.

This is not sport team where fans can demand the removal of a manager due to one bad season or a set of results.

Rather than suggesting they are giving customers a bad message for not firing people, you are setting a bad example of the playerbase by demanding, or even suggesting the termination of employees.

They are real people working for a living with bills to pay. And here you are suggesting people should be fired.

[Deavane]

Things that players call for firings over aren't the sort of things that actually get people fired.

Wait a second?! You mean to tell me that Celestalon killing my spec doesn't warrant him getting fired? That's absurd, he totally does! http://www.blamecelestalon.com/

[Turtlewithnoshell]

This thread proves that not only do players not understand what it takes to develop a game, they also do not understand what it takes to run a company. /thread

[WowIsDead64]

No employees being fired - is PR crap. They're asked to "voluntarily" go away = they're fired.

[Thimagryn]

Try this question

why isn't anyone fired because of lousy performance in game design?

I just might answer the question why WoD has only two tiers for Blizzard.

What part of the game design performance was lousy though?

As someone who hasn't subbed to WoW since pre-Mists (though I subbed a month pre-WoD) the problems I've heard with WoD come from lack of content and Garrisons becoming too prominent. I wouldn't exactly consider this a failure of performance by the design team.

[idunnowatdo]

People get fired they just dont make a spectacle of it. Unless you where expecting them to be stripped naked and walked across town for everyone to see.

[purebalance]

Question is why would Blizzard make it public if they were to fire an employee? For all we know they could have fired plenty of people, and just not announced it, because frankly it's non of our business.

This sort of. Also, when it comes to high profile people, they're "asked" to step down, which could have happened with some of the people who "left". Take Rachel Dolezal my favorite transracial woman that transgendereds hate: She was a high ranking NAACP official and when I say "oh they fired her for not being black" people say no "she stepped down" when the reality was they simply called it that.

[Gadzooks]

What part of the game design performance was lousy though?

As someone who hasn't subbed to WoW since pre-Mists (though I subbed a month pre-WoD) the problems I've heard with WoD come from lack of content and Garrisons becoming too prominent. I wouldn't exactly consider this a failure of performance by the design team.

Depends on your definition of "failure".

A lot of the comments here are based on design decisions.

But, even with those decisions, which Ion admitted were a mistake, they profited every quarter on the game. They showed that despite sub losses, they could make up for it with token and cash shop sales.

That's why nobody got fired for their design decisions.

[FelPlague]

Of course not, but never heard of any case, because I'm sure from those 7000 employees someone would say it if it would happen, right? But yeah ok, those at the top seems to be more like a Blizzard's symbols, so I guess that's why.

going to twitter complaining you got fired from blizzard, and making such a big deal that people would notice it enough to make it seen by most people... would make you no longer hireable for any game buisness... as really a company would not want to hire somone who got fired, and caused so much drama people saw it...

[purebalance]

What part of the game design performance was lousy though?

As someone who hasn't subbed to WoW since pre-Mists (though I subbed a month pre-WoD) the problems I've heard with WoD come from lack of content and Garrisons becoming too prominent. I wouldn't exactly consider this a failure of performance by the design team.

Holinka should have been fired from some of his posts regarding Ashran and the handling of it and not letting PR handle their job. "Ohhhhh they insulted my failed world battleground.... RAGE!!!!!"

[FelPlague]

This thread proves that not only do players not understand what it takes to develop a game, they also do not understand what it takes to run a company. /thread

and why people say "blizzard are shit for ruining wow and making the garrisons" when really it was a small dev team.. not all of blizzard...

[Daralii]

and why people say "blizzard are shit for ruining wow and making the garrisons" when really it was a small dev team.. not all of blizzard...

Isn't WoW's dev team something like 300-400 people?

[FelPlague]

Isn't WoW's dev team something like 300-400 people?

yes but the group that made garrisons is most likely mabye 20ish people

also most AAA dev teams are in the hundreds

heck nost alone had 30 staff

[Gadzooks]

Holinka should have been fired from some of his posts regarding Ashran and the handling of it and not letting PR handle their job. "Ohhhhh they insulted my failed world battleground.... RAGE!!!!!"

I'm not a Holinka fan, as I've thought he was a dick from day one, but I'm not entirely certain Ashran was all him. It's hard to tell - he's the public face for PvP, but is he the ultimate shot caller?

Being a dick on Twitter is not and should not be a firing offense - at worst, they should just prevent him and others like him from commenting. If being a dick on Twitter was a firing offense, Celestalon would have packed his cubicle up with a security guard watching a long time ago.

[Sliske]

Its fairly obvious that they have fired people. Just never publicly. Blizzard tries to keep this very friendly front face where they never do anything questionable in the public eye, so to hang someone out to dry next to that friendly front is just madness.

[Ringthane]

It matters to me though because when you look at how terrible WoD was those same people who worked on it then are doing the same mistakes now with yet another command table and more missions, but we'll see how it goes I guess.

It's a totally different system. I'm level 103 and just started my second zone. You know how many missions I've done?

Three.

I've actually spent more time in my order hall upgrading my artifact than doing anything mission-related. It's not mandatory in Legion, and it's not something that will take up much of your time.