Reinhardt and Winston Gameplay - Do you like tanking?

[Volitar]

Reinhardt is the only one that feels like is actually a tank. Winston chases down annoying heroes like Widow. Diva is kind of a middle ground of DPS personal tankiness and support with the projectile killer. Roadhog just feels like a very beefy DPS, you have a lot of HP and self sustain but offer your team no tankiness.

[Deleted]

I really like the tank heroes. Winston and Reinhardt were the two I used most during the beta, switching where appropriate. Even got a couple of PotG on them. Saw lots of Roadhogs and D.Vas on enemy teams, but very few playing Zarya.

[Manthis]

It's funny how in all these threads everyone sort of ignores or forgets that Zarya exists at all. :P

Translated into my time playing open beta too. I never once saw a single Zarya.

Which is a shame, properly played she just wrecks people. Guess people have to get used to on how to use the shields properly with her. Oh, and her Ult + 100 energy = mayhem.

[Sliske]

My problem in 99% of games that a tanking role exists is that tanks are either entirely reliant on their team, or useless.

Example 1- your team has a group of good players, enemy is all trash. Your team quickly sweeps their entire team, you stand around useless with your shield up.
Example 2- you have a team of people who hate going for the objective, you go solo to objective, die of course, or you attempt to flank with the loudest character in the game with the rest of your team, and your team mates all on tracer / genji run off and die alone anyway.

Then on the odd case that you get a competent team, you do little but stand still and right click in front of a McCree with good aim. Every now and then you'll get a game vs bad players that think you're unkillable, then tank is fun, as you can get quite a lot of kills as Reinhardt if you are 1v1ing bad players.

[Raetary]

i hate tanking tbh.
but the tanks are still fun to play, especially reinhardt and zarya.

[Tryuk]

Remind me why D.va is classified as a tank at all.

She technically has the highest health in the game, 500 + 150. In addition 400 of that is armor.

But really it's the same reason as any other tank in the game, she's a high hp annoyance disruptor that has a defensive ability and an ult that can scatter the opponent's team.

[KaPe]

But really it's the same reason as any other tank in the game, she's a high hp annoyance disruptor that has a defensive ability and an ult that can scatter the opponent's team.

So, she's like Mei, only far less annoying.

[chesder]

zarya is amongst my most played heroes, i love her endlessly. zarya is more of a bruiser and with maximum charged weapon she is best played as a poker since her right click does extreme damage then and she cant go in hard really well most of the time/ vs better players.

I find zarya anoting since you have to be patient Tsing her down. Her strength is stalling and it's surprising hoe effective it is

[kail]

I feel like Rein is the one and only tank. Not in the sense that he's mandatory but no1 else really "tanks" for the team like Rein. My inner bias for the character does hope for a single buff somewhere (faster charge initiation, faster E animation, or simply more passive durability).

[Xyonai]

It's funny how in all these threads everyone sort of ignores or forgets that Zarya exists at all. :P

Translated into my time playing open beta too. I never once saw a single Zarya.

I main Zarya and I too never saw her very often in most of the closed beta, though the ones I did see were also just as annoyingly unkillable as I was so I think only particular players ended up gravitating (heh) towards her. Although I did see more and more people playing her as the closed Beta wrapped up, so maybe word of mouth got out about her skill, or she's just picked more in higher level brackets.

[Kathranis]

I actually really like tanking, but it can get a bet boring after a while, especially if you really want to play something else but nobody else is willing to tank. They can be especially boring to play on defense.

That said, I think that Reinhardt is probably one of the most accessible characters in the game for new players. His kit is simple and easy to understand, it takes a lot for him to die, and when you play Reinhardt you really feel like you're contributing to the team. Especially on escort maps. All of the tanks are pretty easy to get a hang of, but I think Reinhardt is the most straightforward.

Winston I think is more useful as a counter pick to teams that are using a lot of offense characters, since he makes quick work of characters like Tracer, Genji, Hanzo, and Widow. However, he's actually quite good in setups with two tanks, with another Winston or another tank like D.Va. Double Winston is a solid strat for payload maps.


I strongly suggest that new players who aren't experienced with FPS games give tanking a shot. It's a great way to familiarize yourself with the objectives and maps, and it doesn't require twitchy reflexes and perfect aim like some of the other classes.

[chesder]

New players who play Winston.

Jumping around is fine, but don't chase. If the enemy is running away from the objective, you did your job.

GET ON THE POINT!

[Deleted]

Winston is more of an offensive tank in my opinion. Charge into the enemy lines, create havoc, ank some damage with your shield, leap out and repeat. It can really mess up and coordinated advance toward a point as they have to focus you or be moved down by your Tesla. And I disagree about his ultimate being weak. It's not supposed to kill. You can push a whole team 100 yards away from a point. Sometimes just getting that Reinhardt outta there can be the difference between a win or a loss. And those pesky snipers, don't even bother Winston gon hound yo ass all game.

I find him insanely fun to play and he has a great role in the game.

[Deleted]

Nope, taken aside Zarya, whom is a character I enjoy playing a lot, I absolutely hate playing tanks, they're just boring to play IMO, especially Reinhardt

[Lothar]

Nope, taken aside Zarya, whom is a character I enjoy playing a lot, I absolutely hate playing tanks, they're just boring to play IMO, especially Reinhardt

flanking with reinhardt ist surprisingly effective, I cant rly play him in any other way since most of the time staying behind shield is so boring, heavily depends on team/setup etc etc ofc.

also in the few games I picked him, i managed to have a rather ridiculous high charge kill quota, just gotta know when (plus own team shouldnt suck too much obviously)

[Kalmakk]

flanking with reinhardt ist surprisingly effective, I cant rly play him in any other way since most of the time staying behind shield is so boring, heavily depends on team/setup etc etc ofc.

also in the few games I picked him, i managed to have a rather ridiculous high charge kill quota, just gotta know when (plus own team shouldnt suck too much obviously)

I love playing Reinhardt like this too, except I alternate between flanking and defending depending on if I have my ult up or not. If not, I stick to shielding and pushing objective with the team, but as soon as my ult is up I'll announce it and either A: wait until I die, or B: slip out of the fighting, and go flank, try and find a good angle, then combo ult smash into a charge that (hopefully) scoops up 2 or 3 of their team and sweeps them out of play in one go. You'd honestly be surprised how often it works, too! Especially on maps with cliffs or bridges.
With Reinhardt I think people are too scared of using charge as a kamikaze. If you take out 1 or 2 key supports or defenders, but kill yourself in the process, that's a valuable death. Team game, team plays.

*Sprays teeth with chrome*

[Sky High]

Zarya and Roadhog are my main tank picks. in roadhogs case he preforms well on his own. Zarya is a much more risk/reward kind of tank with her shields and buffs, It'll be real fun when I get the hang of her.

[Deleted]

So, she's like Mei, only far less annoying.

Not at all. D.Va's mobility and ramming capabilities make her very effective against snipers. Her defense matrix can nullify attacks that Mei's ice walls can not.

[Kalmakk]

Not at all. D.Va's mobility and ramming capabilities make her very effective against snipers. Her defense matrix can nullify attacks that Mei's ice walls can not.

That's not what makes Mei annoying. It's the freezing mechanic in general. People would hate Mei a whole lot less if instead of freezing you solid, she just killed you outright. But she doesn't. You have to just sit there, helpless, as she shoots icicles into your frozen face, as she overly cheerfully trots away to do it again to some other lost soul.
Mei is a Hearthstone Grim Patron warrior.
It actually surprises me that she doesn't get as much flak as Bastion, honestly. I'd rather be killed by TurretHero than FrigidIceWitch

god damn I hate Mei so much, hold me

[KaPe]

It actually surprises me that she doesn't get as much flak as Bastion, honestly. I'd rather be killed by TurretHero than FrigidIceWitch

She's not nearly as obvious as Bastion and it's much harder to get PotG outside some crazy ultimate. You immediately notice that turret just gunned down three players, since it takes all of two seconds. With Mei, it's "she doesn't *seem* to do all that much damage, maybe I can take her on", or "she's almost dead, I can do it".

It takes a while to realize that she's much tankier than she looks and does pretty nasty damage. Staring at her slowly aim that icicle headshot while being completely helpless... yeah, few times will do it.

Not at all. D.Va's mobility and ramming capabilities make her very effective against snipers. Her defense matrix can nullify attacks that Mei's ice walls can not.

I meant that in "(relatively, thanks to ice block) tanky nuisance, with ultimate that can force scatter" Well, at least in theory - good luck trying to run from that thing. Obviously their actual usage is much different, but when it comes to "annoyance", she has that covered.