Yeah that's what I said.
Yeah that's what I said.
I agree with the first statement, their solution is only a half measure thats likely just going to inconvenience everyone. If they really want talent choices to be meaningful then they need to have a hard restriction thats time based, such as a daily CD or a very rare consumable.
And the old talent trees weren't removed because of cookie cutter builds, having a ST choice and an AE choice is still the very definition of cookie cutter, so the new trees have done nada to solve that problem. The old talent system went away because the trees were full of boring talents that provided minuscule increases in stats/abilities. So instead of choosing to spend a talent point on 1% crit vs .1 secs off a spell, youd choose between larger and more impactful bonuses. The problem is that because we can easily hotswap the "choice" is entirely diluted.
All that said, WoW has never been a game where choices mattered and Blizzard has spent the last decade reinforcing that so I don't see this being a popular change at all. They'd do better to just lean in on it and give us FPS style loadouts to deal with the tedium of swapping specs every fight.
The entire reason why people do that is because people want to contribute to their raids/groups by playing the best spec. I'm not saying Blizzard is incompetent because this kind of thing is hard to pull off, but if they actually managed to successfully make all of the specs equal when it comes down to value to the raid and damage output, then the issue of "just another DPS Warrior" wouldn't be a concern.
Originally Posted by Bigbazz
This wasn't a problem in wrath. I didn't have to Ok avatar for this fight, bladestorm for this fight, oh we're doing this fight lemme make sure I have shockwave I mean ffs this is some of the dumbest game play I've seen in wow. I say this as a 13/13 Mythic as well.
I level warriors, I have 48 max level warriors.
For those looking for more beta key giveaways, here's another if you're a twitter user.
https://twitter.com/hotted89/status/732206934066122752
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I feel like all talent choices would be meaningful if encounters (both dungeon and raids) would reflect this kinda of choices.
As of now, some encounters are strictly aoe, some st, some mixed and you simply adapt to the challenge, there is no choice or to put it differently -- a choice between subpar and optimal talent is not much of a choice.
It's not often like this, but more often than not, it is true.
So changing something on our end without changing the raid/dungeon design is simply lame.
Thanks for that. Always nice when I have to accept cancer, but can then delete the cancer immediately.
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Yeah, but anything that makes it a larger more tedious annoyance means fewer and fewer people will feel compelled to do it.
I level warriors, I have 48 max level warriors.
There is no need to fix things that aren't broken. I never saw one complaint about the system of changing talents, only positive. I like to experiment with talents during my raid. The only thing this causes is that people that are competitive will have to HS and get summoned, which I will do but surely will get annoying eventually.
Re: Beta key giveaways
(Didn't get nearly as many as we had hoped, but still more than 0, which was a surprise)
neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!!
We got beta keys?!?!?!!?!?!?!
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I see it as a pretty huge problem personally. It means constant tweaking for min maxing performance and constant times of "I forgot to change my talent, I forgot to have tomes, I forgot this" it just adds more shit to a giant shit pile instead of giving some depth to RPG and characters. It really frustrates me
I level warriors, I have 48 max level warriors.
You bitch that you want to play Vanilla, then they make a change to the game that puts a portion of it (being in town to change talents) the same as it was in Vanilla, and you cry about it. This is why they won't give you legacy servers. You think you want it, but you don't. Clearly.
So I have been exploring around the coasts of the broken isles for the lolz and omg blizzard has put so much detail to the underwater that most people will never see theres so many sea creatures sunken ships giant skeletons underwater ruins I even found a little deep sea murloc camp full of dead murlocs with a giant shark. (all the murlocs had PH in their name which was funny). Also the costs goes so far out before hitting fatigue.
I don't see why you keep bringing this up, plenty of guilds have killed Mythic Archimonde at this point. This mostly wasn't a problem in Wrath and Cataclysm because the entirety of the talent choice system wasn't even a thing until MoP and a lot of top guilds will expect you to pick the best talent choice. Even if you aren't required to do it in your guild, you're honestly gimping your raid by not going with the best choice you can go for.
I call dibs on a key.
Do I win?
Originally Posted by Bigbazz
Seems like a valid point when I say I hate something involving raiding? Would think it'd say "I have a great deal of experience here and my opinion might have moderately more weight than say someone who doesn't raid at all" seems like a valid line of thought to me.
And exactly why it should be made to the point that its so tedious for you to change specs, that it would cost much time in raid, that you stick to one set of talents and just get good?
I level warriors, I have 48 max level warriors.
I would agree with you, but the fact that you refused to pick the best talents on fights and gimping your raid by doing so doesn't say much about your raiding career.
I'm not saying that the current system is ideal, I'd be okay with having these just be abilities that you're given by default or if they were choices that ended up being based off of preference instead of what's better. Unfortunately, this isn't the case and seems like it won't be the case in the future as well.And exactly why it should be made to the point that its so tedious for you to change specs, that it would cost much time in raid, that you stick to one set of talents and just get good?
Originally Posted by Bigbazz