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  1. #181
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    I have not played alpha or beta, but from what I have been reading the pet seems to be somewhat clunky with a melee hunter. Would it be feasible to just remove the pet or give surv some thing similar to dire beasts?
    At first I was actually excited about the prospect of a melee hunter, the rpg of being this "wild" man that leaps into battle goring and lacerating his opponent while still using things like traps&poisons the pet just seems to be unnecessary imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I have not played alpha or beta, but from what I have been reading the pet seems to be somewhat clunky with a melee hunter. Would it be feasible to just remove the pet or give surv some thing similar to dire beasts?
    At first I was actually excited about the prospect of a melee hunter, the rpg of being this "wild" man that leaps into battle goring and lacerating his opponent while still using things like traps&poisons the pet just seems to be unnecessary imo
    I agree, i need the option of lone wolf! When you pick lone wolf auto attacks should be able to proc mongoose bite and an 33% increased attack speed.

  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifritlol View Post
    I am willing to hear what is needed to be done for everything exept SW MM to not be shit. Any ideas?
    Well the obvious thing would be to cancel the changes and revert all specs to live. There is a reason Hunter is the most popular class on live - people like playing it.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoroaster09 View Post
    Well the obvious thing would be to cancel the changes and revert all specs to live. There is a reason Hunter is the most popular class on live - people like playing it.
    Well mostly because it's one of the most brain dead class too with pretty much everything.
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  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoroaster09 View Post
    Well the obvious thing would be to cancel the changes and revert all specs to live. There is a reason Hunter is the most popular class on live - people like playing it.
    Nah... it's the most popular class because it's an easy class who performs always quite well. Even if your skills are not so good.

  6. #186
    I'm loving survival on Beta, sooo gona main that as soon as 7.0 goes live. It does have a few bugs that need to be fixed and one MAJOR change and one kinda major change they have to do thou. The artifacts attack needs to be able to channel while moving just like monks with FoF, and it needs a new animation. Its a green version of Fist of Fury, heck you don't even stab with the spear you punch away.

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Khatix View Post
    I'm loving survival on Beta, sooo gona main that as soon as 7.0 goes live. It does have a few bugs that need to be fixed and one MAJOR change and one kinda major change they have to do thou. The artifacts attack needs to be able to channel while moving just like monks with FoF, and it needs a new animation. Its a green version of Fist of Fury, heck you don't even stab with the spear you punch away.
    I'm sure they'll fix this animation. Although I think channeling while moving, will take an entire expac like monks had to be baseline.

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    What ilvl will the spear be that u get when the prepatch hits?
    Cuz if the prepatch makes surv the best of the hunter specs again, i dont want to raid with a 640 spear
    Yes im still progressing last 3 hfc bosses
    Only started mythic in late februari
    And i dont mind playing melee

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Ninthelora View Post
    I'm sure they'll fix this animation. Although I think channeling while moving, will take an entire expac like monks had to be baseline.
    Earlier in Alpha it was castable while moving.

    Quote Originally Posted by Julianor View Post
    What ilvl will the spear be that u get when the prepatch hits?
    Cuz if the prepatch makes surv the best of the hunter specs again, i dont want to raid with a 640 spear
    Yes im still progressing last 3 hfc bosses
    Only started mythic in late februari
    And i dont mind playing melee
    Your Artifact has a base Ilvl of 750 and you wont be able to start the chain to get it till Legion goes live, not 7.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khatix View Post
    Your Artifact has a base Ilvl of 750 and you wont be able to start the chain to get it till Legion goes live, not 7.0
    On the front page there is a tweet about hunters getting a melee weapon when the prepatch hits, because the new survival will require one
    and all the class changes will be implemented in prepatch (this will probably ruin hfc balance)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julianor View Post
    What ilvl will the spear be that u get when the prepatch hits?
    Cuz if the prepatch makes surv the best of the hunter specs again, i dont want to raid with a 640 spear
    Yes im still progressing last 3 hfc bosses
    Only started mythic in late februari
    And i dont mind playing melee
    just loot any HFC polearm. you have, like, 7-8 weeks to do that.

  12. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by Ifritlol View Post
    just loot any HFC polearm. you have, like, 7-8 weeks to do that.
    Ya I was lucky to nab a Mythic Mannoroth Xu'tenash, Glaive of Ruin with socket...740 ilvl with Socket Polearm /drool

    I suppose you could also get the 730ilvl from Kormrok which should be easy enough to get.
    Last edited by Nubulous; 2016-05-19 at 06:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifritlol View Post
    just loot any HFC polearm. you have, like, 7-8 weeks to do that.
    yea, ill tell the raid leader i will be rolling for polearms (nobody needs kormrok anymore anyway) If no one else needs them
    I was just curious if the spear we get when prepatch hits would be the same ilvl as our current bow

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    I made some weakaura for survival hunter for the beta if you are interested.

    WeakAura Legion Hunter SV

    Code:
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    I can't post any screenshot but my weakaura is like khakhan's script

    Sorry if my english is bad

  15. #195
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    really liked the tiny bit of i played on beta, but i'd prefer it to be dual wield instead of 2h.

  16. #196
    the weapon they are just giving out on pre-patch will probably be a baleful polearm.. as others have said there are two weapons in HFC that you can grab either before or after the patch (well, if you don't run personal loot raids) and rather than making a brand new item it seems like handing out an existing one that is pre-raid would make the most sense.

    that said, other peoples idea of sense can be totally out of line.. so.. eh who knows. but either a 640 (level 100 boost) polearm of one of the baleful (660-695?) one's is my best guesses.

    you can try group loot mythic dungeons for a potential high ilvl polearm (but good luck seeing anything you want actually drop in a mythic dungeon + having group loot on + not having it just needed by someone else :P) -- best bet if you aren't part of a farm group in hfc that would hand polearms over to you is probably saving up a lot of apexis crystals and waiting for the pre-patch.
    that way if the weapon they give out is just a level 100 boost 640 polearm, you can buy weapon tokens and try to at least get a 695 ---- uh provided they adjust the token to create a polearm for survival *nervous laughter* they've missed stuff like this out before. start of wod i kept getting spirit trinkets from dungeon bosses :P
    Last edited by the boar; 2016-05-21 at 06:18 PM.

  17. #197
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    Does Survival still have this massive focus starvation issue? Or is it intended that we can't keep every rotational ability on cooldown?
    Last edited by mmoc7f25e17046; 2016-05-21 at 07:27 PM.

  18. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMOC StarCo View Post
    Does Survival still have this massive focus starvation issue? Or is it intended that we can't keep every rotational ability on cooldown?
    It doesn't have a focus starvation issue. People just aren't playing correctly and are assuming that you actually use raptor strike at all. A move that cost a ton of focus and hits for close to nothing. The point of raptor strike is to use as a dump if you cap and that's about it. If you pick serpent sting it has another use, but other than that you don't use that ability. And with out it there isn't really focus issues. Yea the talent that increases attack power by each raptor strike is not good and isn't worth it. Play without the talent and see how much better the spec feels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kissthebaby View Post
    It doesn't have a focus starvation issue. People just aren't playing correctly and are assuming that you actually use raptor strike at all. A move that cost a ton of focus and hits for close to nothing. The point of raptor strike is to use as a dump if you cap and that's about it. If you pick serpent sting it has another use, but other than that you don't use that ability. And with out it there isn't really focus issues. Yea the talent that increases attack power by each raptor strike is not good and isn't worth it. Play without the talent and see how much better the spec feels.
    Exactly this, i only use Raptor Strike if I'm in need of heals thru the artifact trait i have. Other wise i use the lvl 15 talent Throwing Axes, which is hands down the BEST talent of the lvl 15 teir. They beat raptor strike to shreds with its DPF, its also a 30 yard range skill. They are insanely handy.


    This is the spec I'm currently running and it handles very well http://legion.wowhead.com/talent-cal.../survival/M5yz

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    I hate all those talemts and abilities that slow movement speed. Talk about Boooring. What? They couldnt think of anything else to use instead??

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