Obama Defends Condoleezza Rice During Rutgers Commencement Speech

[alexw]

Well one poll showed it, it must be the TRUTH. ONE POLL! You're right, I'm wrong. One poll from the university of Maryland must be what everyone wants. One poll conducted BEFORE obama's administration admitted to having their journalists put out sunshine and rainbows for it. You're right, I am wrong, you win because...heh 1 ONLINE poll shows what everyone in America wants. I guess if the poll was conducted on MMO champion it would have been published in acadmic books as the gospel.

Its more than one poll. Here is another one by a different organization saying exactly the same.

http://www.pollingreport.com/iran.htm

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And yet most left winged people here, labels right winged people as gay bashing bigots, I guess it depends when the argument suits your purpose.

All (or nearly all) gay bashing bigots are right-wingers. Not all right-wingers are gay bashing bigots.

[Xar226]

I 100% agree with Obama on this one. Most kids today pick something to believe and shove their fingers in the ears refusing to listen to anything that is outside their safe space.

You really think my generation is any better? Or yours? Everybody wants to believe they are the 1% of people who actually change their opinions on political issues when presented with contrary evidence, but it's almost never true. Honestly I think you just wanted to make an oh-so-witty crack about "safe spaces."

[Cthulhu 2020]

No, I am posting in a thread where Obama gave a speech where he says you should listen to opposing views, but in reality could care less. Obama does what he wants and does not care what opposing people think unless they block him....then he tells them they are wrong. Every politician does this, he is just the current and more blatant abuser.

Obama was speaking against silencing people. Listening to opposing views does not mean doing everything they say.

[Pangean]

Are you using the same online poll from the University of Maryland that is now the gospel on how people feel about the Iran deal? When you openly say that the United states needs to be destroyed.... that's pretty much my definition of advent for destruction

Lol. There's the ABC News/Washington Post Poll that showed it. There's the CNN/ORC Poll that showed it. No one you demonized and continue to demonize has openly or not openly stated that they support any country you claim "advents" that United States needs to be destroyed. You are simply making up shit to attack your opponent.

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Which is obvious how you want people to judge you by using the term right-winger.

It was the term the poster used to which I replied to. Seriously if you want to discuss stuff with me at least read the posts and know what was said before engaging in this silliness.

[Reeve]

You're a blue dot in a sea of red. I am sure you support all the countries that advent for the destruction of the United States.

I support making peace with our enemies so that they don't grow into dangerous enemies. I support having some actual control over Iran's nuclear program instead of just waiting for them to develop the tech for nuclear bombs, which they would do regardless. I support recognizing that the best way to defuse the threat of Iran is to get the people of Iran on our side, which will never happen so long as we're using an embargo to cause the people of Iran to suffer while the leadership of Iran enjoy lavish pleasures. I support an attempt to develop allies in the middle east that can stand as stable bulwarks against Islamic extremism that tends to foment in unstable areas.

And Houston is a rather large blue dot. As are San Antonio, Austin, and Dallas.

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Difference is in the past they were at least somewhat fact based. College students protesting Vietnam actually learned about the atrocities being committed and that we probably had no real business being there. The BLM and feminist tardos on campuses are blindly following lies and lash out violently at you when confronted with the truth.

Which is exactly what the establishment of the 1970s thought about the college students of that time period.

[zenkai]

I have never been labelled a gay bashing bigot by left wingers on here. Not even by Advanta, who is far left they have left reality.

Did I specifically say you?

[TexasRules]

Lol. There's the ABC News/Washington Post Poll that showed it. There's the CNN/ORC Poll that showed it. No one you demonized and continue to demonize has openly or not openly stated that they support any country you claim "advents" that United States needs to be destroyed. You are simply making up shit to attack your opponent.

were these polls before or after the administration admitted the used journalists as their tools of ignorance?

[Lenonis]

Opposition to gay marriage/rights is typically a religious position, not necessarily a right wing one.

I understand your intent with the post you made, but it's factually false. In the GOP platform it states opposition to gay marriage, so while it is also a religious position it is also, by definition, a right wing one, at least a GOP one anyway.

[TexasRules]

I support making peace with our enemies so that they don't grow into dangerous enemies. I support having some actual control over Iran's nuclear program instead of just waiting for them to develop the tech for nuclear bombs, which they would do regardless. I support recognizing that the best way to defuse the threat of Iran is to get the people of Iran on our side, which will never happen so long as we're using an embargo to cause the people of Iran to suffer while the leadership of Iran enjoy lavish pleasures. I support an attempt to develop allies in the middle east that can stand as stable bulwarks against Islamic extremism that tends to foment in unstable areas.

And Houston is a rather large blue dot. As are San Antonio, Austin, and Dallas.

Austin is, San Antonio--a little, Dallas, not so much.

You support the impossible. As long as the religious leaders want America destroyed, the people will not support America. EVER. You got pipe dreams that will never be realized. But you probably spend your day posting here over and over in between reading misleading internet articles.

[Kalis]

I understand your intent with the post you made, but it's factually false. In the GOP platform it states opposition to gay marriage, so while it is also a religious position it is also, by definition, a right wing one, at least a GOP one anyway.

A US Republican Party one, yes, but it is based on religious ideals not right wing ideals. Even in the US you can be right wing and not support the Republican Party.

[Reeve]

Austin is, San Antonio--a little, Dallas, not so much.

You support the impossible. As long as the religious leaders want America destroyed, the people will not support America. EVER. You got pipe dreams that will never be realized. But you probably spend your day posting here over and over in between reading misleading internet articles.

It was certainly impossible while that embargo stayed in place. But the Iranian people are not the same as the Iranian government.

And yeah, Dallas is kind of purple, but it did vote Obama. Houston proper is very blue, though the far outside suburbs/exurbs of Houston are red.

[Wildtree]

It was certainly impossible while that embargo stayed in place. But the Iranian people are not the same as the Iranian government.

And yeah, Dallas is kind of purple, but it did vote Obama. Houston proper is very blue, though the far outside suburbs of Houston are red.

Last Dallas was deep red was in 1988. Since then it's been pretty much purple or blue (08, 12)

I looked it up.

[Lenonis]

A US Republican Party one, yes, but it is based on religious ideals not right wing ideals. Even in the US you can be right wing and not support the Republican Party.

Yes, that's true. Although, unfortunately, a voice that is conservative but doesn't support the GOP is going to get lost. Part of the issue with a 2 party system.

I just mainly wanted to highlight that the GOP is, in fact, an anti-gay political group given the increasing claims I've seen to the contrary.

[Kalis]

Yes, that's true. Although, unfortunately, a voice that is conservative but doesn't support the GOP is going to get lost. Part of the issue with a 2 party system.

I just mainly wanted to highlight that the GOP is, in fact, an anti-gay political group given the increasing claims I've seen to the contrary.

The centre right/right wing moderates, or whatever you want to call them, will just drift to the Democrats, if they haven't already.

[Lenonis]

The centre right/right wing moderates, or whatever you want to call them, will just drift to the Democrats, if they haven't already.

People who are more concerned about social issues but are conservative on economic ones will anyway.

I really do think the social conservatism is what is killing the GOP. I don't think their economic policies are viable, but they aren't offensive.

[DSRilk]

I 100% agree with Obama on this one. Most kids today pick something to believe and shove their fingers in the ears refusing to listen to anything that is outside their safe space.

It's pretty much most people of every age. I don't think this is either new or specific to "kids".

[zenkai]

It's pretty much most people of every age. I don't think this is either new or specific to "kids".

Was there past generations seeking safe spaces?

[Kronik85]

Was there past generations seeking safe spaces?

No, they supported Nuclear Disarmament and spreading STD's instead, rampant drug use and fighting "the man". Every generation has it's own batshit issues.

[zenkai]

No, they supported Nuclear Disarmament and spreading STD's instead, rampant drug use and fighting "the man". Every generation has it's own batshit issues.

Don't get me started on hippies, fuck hippies

[Damajin]

Condoleezza Rice, it sounds like a Mexican dish.

Condoleeza Rice is nice but I prefer a-roni

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