This is how fascism comes to America

[Deleted]

That's what he tells you at least.

Look at his investment portfolio. This guy is totally against globalism and free trade! That's why he invests into Ford, Amazon and Apple, amirite?

So let me get this straight.

If the choice is between two people, you vote for the one who outright says 'more of the same' ? Assuming of course you have a problem with illegal immigration and outsourcing.

Worst case scenario: Trump turns out to be another neo con, at least with him you know where he stands on social issues, i.e not on the regressive left side. Because of betraying his voterbase he won't get re-elected, possibly impeached.

Also please don't confuse one man's opinions with necessary business strategies, given how the system currently works.

[ringpriest]

What exactly makes you think he can do otherwise? I mean, in order to completely circumvent the democratic process he would require either violence on a wide scale or deep-seated corruption (from all sides, we're talking Mexico or Russia levels of corruption). You really think he's just going to be able to walk into the Oval Office, say "you have to do whatever I say now", and it'll just be so? I'm not sure what kind of evil mastermind you think he is but if he wants to actually have complete control he'll have to get his hands dirty and that would cause a massive stir.

Trump has already demonstrated that our present political system is poorly suited to deal with "outside the box" challenges, and he would be entering office after sixteen years of expanding Executive Branch powers; under the law as it is interpreted by the Executive Branch right now Trump could order the indefinite detention or murder of anyone he wants (such as, say, prominent critics of his administration - the end result of the abominable civic hygiene we've practiced for a decade and a half of the "War of Terror"). Combine that with Trump's demonstrated willingness to directly threaten officials and advocacy of mob violence in order to get his way, his very public gross disrespect for rule of law, plus a Congress full of politicians far more interested in their own fortunes than doing their jobs and Trumps own immature, ignorant, and volatile personality (and a nation that is politically divided and faces a multitude of real problems), and you've got a recipe for near hypergolic autocracy of the worst possible sort.

Even if Trump "only" tries to govern as a wanna-be tin-pot dictator and is promptly shut down, that's going to wreck immense damage to our institutions at a time when we can ill afford it.

[Felya]

Worst case scenario: Trump turns out to be another neo con, at least with him you know where he stands on social issues, i.e not on the regressive left side. Because of betraying his voterbase he won't get re-elected, possibly impeached.

No, worst case scenario is that republicans hold both house and senate. This will let him appoint any judge he wants and get away with passing everything he is proposing. The result of which is most likely losing our second largest exporter, giving China a foothold into South America. Would run up the deficit beyond any historical measure, with his proposed tax cuts and increased spending. Then would do the same thing as happened to the ruble, to the dollar. The worst case scenario with Trump, is that he isn't lying about his policy and can get away with passing it due to party loyalty and would make it difficult to climb out of, due to life appointment of judges.

That's the choice for those who cannot see past Hillary and Trump. With Hillary you assume she is lying, while with Trump, you hope he is.

[Deleted]

We don't really have regressive left SJW bullshit in our country or in Europe.

No? Have you seen what's happening in universities? Have you even been following all the political correctness bullshit that's been going on in the world? Trigger warnings? Safe spaces? The incessant assault against men, calling all of us rapists and misogynists? Open your eyes man.

But we're still struggling with neo-Nazi's and far right parties.

Yeah. And they're getting more popular because of all the aforementioned.

It's not about who started what. I couldn't care less about that. I'm just telling you that if the kind of regressive left authoritarianism continues, it will fuel the fire on the extreme right, to fight that leftist authoritarianism with their own right wing authoritarianism. None of it is good.

[IIamaKing]

Have you seen the actual policies that Trump proposed? Have you seen the way he has ascended to power? If you have take that and compare it to Fujimori or Goni by that matter.

"OBAMA IS A COMMIE KENYAN WHO WILL KILL AMERICA!!!!"

Thats how all your Trump haters sound. 8 years ago you folks were proly making fun of all the alarmists crying about the coming red state, yet here you are, doing the same thing.

Let me guess, Trump, though, he REALLY IS the next Hitler, right?

[ringpriest]

"OBAMA IS A COMMIE KENYAN WHO WILL KILL AMERICA!!!!"

Thats how all your Trump haters sound.

Actually, that's how Trump sounded, five years ago.

"Donald Trump: Obama Birth Certificate Details Being Sought By Investigators In Hawaii"

"I want to see the birth certificate," said Trump in an interview on NBC's "Today" show, according to TIME. " How come his own family doesn't know which hospital he was born in? How come-- forget about birth certificates. Let's say there's no birth certificate. How come in the hospital itself, okay? This is one of the...in the hospital itself, there's no records of his birth. In other words, it doesn't say how much they paid, where is the doctor, here's your room bill.

"Trump Warns of Obama Tipping Point That May Destroy America"

In an interview with Newsmax.TV, Trump explains what's on the line: an Obama second term in the White House would be “devastating for the United States as we know it,” adding ominously that the country would find it “very hard to ever recover.”

(I hate to quote Newsmax, but they're who Trump was talking to 4 years ago.)

[Eroginous]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...3e7_story.html

The author of that article clearly doesn't understand how the office of the President works in America. He's a figurehead. A meat puppet for the nation. I can 100% guarantee you that if he gets elected, he will become the sheeple that Bush was and it will be his advisors making all the decisions and his speech writers putting words in his mouth. Do you really think any of the presidents words are his own? Have you ever seen game of thrones? Real life politics are not like that, but they are just a game.

[IIamaKing]

Actually, that's how Trump sounded, five years ago.

"Donald Trump: Obama Birth Certificate Details Being Sought By Investigators In Hawaii"

"Trump Warns of Obama Tipping Point That May Destroy America"
(I hate to quote Newsmax, but they're who Trump was talking to 4 years ago.)

So what? We already know Trump is an asshat who says dumb shit. Doesnt make him the next Hitler, anymore than Obama was the next Stalin or whoever.

[Deleted]

Which is nearly non-existent in Europe.
Perhaps you should spend some time away from the internet, it's clearly messing with your brain.

They are getting more popular because the average citizen is an idiot and populist parties cater to idiots.

/care
For the last 100 years far right has always find an excuse.
Not even a year ago the argument was Muslim terrorism.
Now your scapegoat is the regressive left?
Cannot wait until you guys start blaming the Jews again, that way we know the circle is done.

I guess in your head you're thinking the regressive left isn't a bad thing because the far right is. That's just a bit asinine now isn't it? Also, what's with the "you guys", what and who do you think I am, exactly? I can acknowledge that the regressive left SJW assholes are a scourge on this planet just as much as I know the far right is. Amazing, isn't it? Things aren't so black and white.

The facts are obvious; the far right is a problem, and the regressive left SJWs are a problem. However, the more the regressive left pushes, the more the far right will push back. One would have to be blind not to see it.

[IIamaKing]

The difference is that Obama was called a commie for wanting to improve health care.
Trump is a retard that deserves jail-time, not a presidency, because he is promising to commit war crimes.

Oh I see, Its different now, Trump is ACTUALLY going to turn America into Nazi Germany.......

[DeadmanWalking]

I was expecting the article to be about a certain Senator sending armed ambassadors into negotations with the Trade Federation who were told by the same Senator to start a blockade of food to one of the members of the Senate to start a vote of no confidence, creating a cloned army and then pushing both sides against each other to come out the elected leader of the Senate, then claim the title of Emperor due to the unending space war that he started.....

[Verbatim]

I'm halfway expecting Trump to go "lawl, you people thought I was serious? I just wanted to see how far I could get!" if he won. Regardless of outcome, I almost lament that these threads will soon be irrelevant. EU politics are almost tame by comparison.

[DeadmanWalking]

However, the more the regressive left pushes, the more the far right will push back. One would have to be blind not to see it.

Yes, that's right, the far left is always the instigator and the far right is just trying to correct the balance. Biased much bro?

[Deleted]

Yes, that's right, the far left is always the instigator and the far right is just trying to correct the balance. Biased much bro?

I didn't say "far left". I said regressive left. I also didn't say anything about "correcting the balance", did I? How about you try to read what I write next time, then take a few minutes to let it sink in and comprehend it properly. Then you won't end up misunderstanding what I've said so utterly and completely.

Bro.

[sethman75]

The single biggest reason that Trump is so popular is Hillary.

She stands for nothing, lies all the time, doesn't achieve anything and would bombard the US with socialist leftist bullshit.

Trump is a goose but at least he has a spine and stands for something.

[Espe]

No, until SJW start passing laws to block other speech, this is simply not true. In fact, SJW being able to express views you don't like, is an example of freedom of speech. Them talking shit about not liking what you say, is no different than you complaining about what they say. The fact that you feel unable to respond, is not fascism, but your inability to articulate your self in a way that disagrees with them, but doesn't confirm their opinion.

Oooh, that had to hurt.

OT: Article hits the nail on the head, but of course you'll have the usual conservative shills singing his praises. They're neck deep in the kool-aid hoping to drown everyone around them.

[DeadmanWalking]

I didn't say "far left". I said regressive left. I also didn't say anything about "correcting the balance", did I? How about you try to read what I write next time, then take a few minutes to let it sink in and comprehend it properly. Then you won't end up misunderstanding what I've said so utterly and completely.

Bro.

The point being you frame the group you disagree with as the instigators in all things evil and the side you do agree with as the cherubs who bring order to the universe. You are yet another person who thinks everyone who agrees with them are right and everyone who disagrees is evil and that your 'rightness' is merely based on you being you and not someone else. "I am always in the right so if you agree with me you are right by extension."


Bro.

[Deleted]

The point being you frame the group you disagree with as the instigators in all things evil and the side you do agree with as the cherubs who bring order to the universe.

Yeah, I fucking absolutely disagree with the regressive left. So who do you think I agree with? The far right? Not a chance. I disagree with them wholeheartedly. So who do you think I agree with?

Come on. You seem to have me figured out. Who do I agree with?

Come on, bro. Tell me, bro. Bro, bro.

[DeadmanWalking]

Oooh, that had to hurt.

OT: Article hits the nail on the head, but of course you'll have the usual conservative shills singing his praises. They're neck deep in the kool-aid hoping to drown everyone around them.

Hopefully this November will be as much fun as November four years ago when Megan Kelly had a meltdown on the Fox News poll numbers guy for calling the vote in favor of Obama based on logical data, "You sit down and go over the numbers again, the votes are still out!", "There are too many Obama numbers still out that we know are coming in and not enough Romney votes left out there to win."

It's always fun to bathe in the tears of the delusional.

I say this as someone who could really give a shit who was president as long as it isn't the Crazy Liberal, -aka Donald Trump.

[stabetha]

Which is nearly non-existent in Europe.
Perhaps you should spend some time away from the internet, it's clearly messing with your brain.

it's "non-existent" because they have already won in Europe where you can go to jail for hurting someones feelings.