Increase of child trafficking and sexual slavery in the EU

[Cybran]

Get your own house in order.

https://ec.europa.eu/anti-traffickin...cooperation_en

"Full transposition of Directive 2011/36/EU on preventing and combating trafficking in human beings and protecting its victims in German criminal law is still pending. In particular, the relevant criminal provisions must be extended to include human trafficking for the exploitation of criminal acts and begging. Human trafficking for the purposes of organ trading is also to be incorporated explicitly into the German Criminal Code. The Act to Combat Human Trafficking and Monitor Brothels (Gesetz zur Bekämpfung des Menschenhandels und Überwachung von Prostitutionsstätten), adopted by the German Bundestag on 28 June 2013 and designed to accommodate this need for a legislative response, can no longer enter into force because of the Bundesrat's convening of the Mediation Committee and the end of the parliamentary term

Germany refuses to control it's brothels and refuses to criminalize exploitation of trafficking victims. They need to get their house in order first.


But you can go ahead and blame the victims as usual.

[Kalis]

https://ec.europa.eu/anti-traffickin...cooperation_en



Germany refuses to control it's brothels and refuses to criminalize exploitation of trafficking victims. They need to get their house in order first.


But you can go ahead and blame the victims as usual.

Some Bulgarians are victims, but that is mainly due to other Bulgarians.

Your rate for sex slaves, etc. is nearly ten times that of Germany - that is the rate within Bulgaria. Germany has a problem, Bulgaria has a a crisis and yet here you are throwing stones at Germany, whilst conveniently ignoring what goes on under your nose.

[Cybran]

yet here you are throwing stones at Germany, whilst conveniently ignoring what goes on under your nose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_...ing_in_Germany

Germany is the main European source, point of transit, organization and destination country for women, children, and men subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically forced prostitution and forced labor.

The Government of Germany only complies with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking and has failed to implement European Union recommendations to reduce sexual slavery. The government made substantial progress in addressing forced labor, although forced prostitution is increasing as of 2015. Available statistics indicate the majority of convicted labor and sex trafficking offenders were not required to serve time in prison, raising concerns that punishments were inadequate to deter traffickers or did not reflect the heinous nature of the offense

How dare I talk about the largest source and destination.

[Kalis]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_...ing_in_Germany


How dare I talk about the largest source and destination.

The actual report that is taken from says "Germany is a source, transit, and destination country for women, children, and men subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically forced prostitution and forced labor."

It says similar things about Bulgaria, though apparently you do not import many, you prefer local slaves.


Germany can be blamed for lots of things, but this is like you are going into your basement and beating up your underage Bulgarian sex slave due to how angry you are at Germany for exploiting people.

I tip my hat to you, you take hypocrisy to levels previously considered unreachable.

[Cybran]

This is actually like:

"Europe has a huge problem. The problem is made worse by German austerity, lax law enforcement and open borders. Eastern European police can't fight criminal rings who make billions in Germany and expand their business eastward. It's time Western Europe clamped down in it's own backyard to prevent cross border exploitation."

[lonely zergling]

This is actually like:

"Europe has a huge problem. The problem is made worse by German austerity, lax law enforcement and open borders. Eastern European police can't fight criminal rings who make billions in Germany and expand their business eastward. It's time Western Europe clamped down in it's own backyard to prevent cross border exploitation."

What? You are complaining that the crime that your folks bring to germany is expanding eastwards ?

[ati87]

This is actually like:

"Europe has a huge problem. The problem is made worse by German austerity, lax law enforcement and open borders. Eastern European police can't fight criminal rings who make billions in Germany and expand their business eastward. It's time Western Europe clamped down in it's own backyard to prevent cross border exploitation."

Ha, your suggesting Western Europes send the army to clean up Eastern Europe? Because that's what it sounds like when you ask others to clean up their backyard,

Bulgaria was a crumbling country before it joined the EU (still kind of is), corruption at every level and aspect of government including police. Becàuse they joined the EU they had to clean up a bit but you really can't blame Germany or the EU as a whole for the poor sorry state Bulgaria is in.

For most Eastern European countries you can find allot of blame with Russia and the USSR era, but most have been better off since they actively decided to become closer to the EU.

And again take a statistic course because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correl...mply_causation

[Kalis]

For most Eastern European countries you can find allot of blame with Russia and the USSR era, but most have been better off since they actively decided to become closer to the EU.

As if Cryban is ever going to lay any blame on Russia or the USSR.

[Cybran]

Ha, your suggesting Western Europes send the army to clean up Eastern Europe? Because that's what it sounds like when you ask others to clean up their backyard

Germany doesn't send abusers to jail. They just fine or slap on the wrist of brothels who traffic children and girls. Western Europe should step up it's law enforcement to prevent illicit money from flowing East and empowering criminal organizations.

[Zorial]

Germany doesn't send abusers to jail. They just fine or slap on the wrist of brothels who traffic children and girls. Western Europe should step up it's law enforcement to prevent illicit money from flowing East and empowering criminal organizations.

And Eastern Europe should get their thumb out of their backsides and start dealing with the criminal organizations...

[Wildtree]

Here we go again.. Cybran with his favorite past time.

Complains about Germany being a trafficking haven (which it is currently), but ignoring those that do the trafficking in the first place.
If you'd stop the people from leaving your borders, chances are Germany has less trafficked victims.
Bulgaria and Romania together count for 38% as per the very link he provided.
That's a lot of people there.

[Cybran]

That's a lot of people there.

That is a lot of victims of German laws.

[Ravenblade]

That is a lot of victims of German laws.

I agree, we, Germans, should get stronger anti-trafficking laws. If only to slap your own criminals' hands harder, with the hammer of the law. Since you don't have those.

[Wildtree]

That is a lot of victims of German laws.

Again.. that are 38% that should never reach German soil.. Where are your laws?
Where is your law enforcement?

You act like someone who throws a person into my swimming pool and makes me responsible for the person drowning, because it is my pool.

[Cybran]

You act like someone who throws a person into my swimming pool and makes me responsible for the person drowning, because it is my pool.

You create the conditions for the trafficking to your pool and the conditions for the drowning. You have to prevent it. It doesnt matter if you think the victim is inferior.

[Wildtree]

I agree, we, Germans, should get stronger anti-trafficking laws. If only to slap your own criminals' hands harder, with the hammer of the law. Since you don't have those.

If, in last consequence we'd close the borders and would select to not let Bulgarians and Romanians enter the country anymore without a visa. He would be the first one up the barricades. That's the flip side of that story.
Or say, we change the law enforcement and judicial system to a harsher handling, he'd accuse Germany of returning to Nazism times.

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You create the conditions for the trafficking to your pool and the conditions for the drowning. You have to prevent it. It doesnt matter if you think the victim is inferior.

No.. You are responsible for your actions.
You take care of your own crimes, then you can talk.
And no one said anything about the victims.

[Serpha]

Yes and lets not talk about UN troops and civilian stuff involvement in organised crime. Burn EU UN and any other moloch.

[Kalis]

You create the conditions for the trafficking to your pool and the conditions for the drowning. You have to prevent it. It doesnt matter if you think the victim is inferior.

Once again, Bulgaria has a far higher rate of sex slavery and child trafficking within its borders than Germany has in theirs, yet all you have done is downplay that and claim it is somehow all the fault of Germans - do Germans force Bulgarians to enslave Bulgarians within Bulgaria? That seems far fetched.

[Jester Joe]

Germany doesn't send abusers to jail. They just fine or slap on the wrist of brothels who traffic children and girls. Western Europe should step up it's law enforcement to prevent illicit money from flowing East and empowering criminal organizations.

This doesn't make much sense to me.

How are you even blaming Western Europe for things that are happening in Eastern Europe? That's like blaming Canada for issues in the USA.

And on top of that, you don't seem to have a plan either for stopping this illegal money flow, and no, "Stepping up law enforcement" is not a plan. That's extremely vague first off, and second off, you can't just keep throwing people at an issue hoping it will be solved.

[Cybran]

you don't seem to have a plan either for stopping this illegal money flow, and no, "Stepping up law enforcement" is not a plan. That's extremely vague first off, and second off, you can't just keep throwing people at an issue hoping it will be solved.

The EU needs to force Germany to repeal it's sex trade laws. At the moment they don't do any regulation and just collect taxes without protecting the women.


Second, the EU needs to force Germany to step up it's law enforcement and to impose long prison sentences for trafficking and abuse of trafficking victims.