Another bot ban wave

[Raelbo]

It's more important that botters be allowed to farm to keep prices down.

That's a bit like arguing that it's important to allow people to steal and sell their wares on the open market to keep prices down....

In the end, every gold piece made by someone selling botted goods is effectively gold stolen from everyone else. And just because you don't recognise how you have neen negatively affected, it does not mean you weren't.

The market is finite. So if a botter is making gold off selling cheap mats it means that the honest player is getting less gold (harder to sell stuff, and you get less for what you can sell). That leaves honest players with less gold. On the other side of the equation, the things that botters use gold for (eg BoE epics, BMAH items, Heroic/Mythic/CM boosts) goes up in price and all those items get bought by the botters meaning, once again, that honest players get screwed.

This is not a "victimless crime". And if you choose to think it is just because you perceive yourself getting cheap mats, then that makes you a short sighted fool.

[ItachiZaku]

1st time should be 6 months. Anything after permanent.

I agree to this.

[Caolela]

This is a message for the ppl who think wow is dying. If they really needed the money they would let the bots roam a bit free.

What people don't understand is there is a difference in bots. Honorbuddy gold/mat farming bots Blizz sees as taking revenue from them which is why they go after it most. They don't really care about the HK bots in random BGs though they'll ding them if they happen to fall in with the rest.

The kickbots in Rated play are the real issue that Blizz looks the other way on, since Blizz directly and indirectly makes money on those players who run them.

[Lochton]

Looks like some banned botters want to sue Blizzard since they may lost Legion pre-purchase. Straight outta reddit http://imgur.com/LWkkkbM

Haha... HAHAHAH... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Sorry, but.. boohoo? They could've just followed the damn guidelines.

[thilicen]

I like the one where he says, "banned right in the middle of gameplay not botting at the time bot not even ON"... That's pretty funny XD

Basic representation of what kind of morons I assume most botters are.

[Deleted]

Coming up next: Q3 subscription number drops to 1 million.

I'd much rather have less but all honest players over a larger player base with a lot of cheaters. Hands down.

[Lochton]

You don't know anything about botting.

He has a point though. If you are botting, then you aren't wanting to do some of the game. If some of the game feels like a chore, why are you doing it in the first place?

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I thought currency was removed when banned? Or am I mistaken?

It is removed.

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I'd much rather have less but all honest players over a larger player base with a lot of cheaters. Hands down.

I doubt we'll even get to 1 mill.

[denzildk]

as an x botter i agree that permaban's isnt the way to go. i stopped botting after getting a 3 day ban for botting and havent done it since for fear of loosing my account and progress.

[Eleccybubb]

Haha... HAHAHAH... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Sorry, but.. boohoo? They could've just followed the damn guidelines.

Indeed. Fucking hilarious that they broke the rules and are crying like babies about it.

[Deleted]

as an x botter i agree that permaban's isnt the way to go. i stopped botting after getting a 3 day ban for botting and havent done it since for fear of loosing my account and progress.

There still wouldn't really be a downside to removing cheaters for at least 6 months on the first offence.
Immediate perm might not be the only viable solution, but it certainly is one as well.

[Balgazarr]

They should not even get a warning nor 6 months. Perma ban them right away.

Why? because some people actually have a life and can't spend 12 hours a day playing because they don't still live with mommy and daddy.

[Deleted]

Indeed. Fucking hilarious that they broke the rules and are crying like babies about it.

Pretty much. Maybe think things through before you do them next time.

Why? because some people actually have a life and can't spend 12 hours a day playing because they don't still live with mommy and daddy.

What a silly argument. Also: If you don't have time for something, you don't get it. Not that difficult to understand.

[Deleted]

He has a point though. If you are botting, then you aren't wanting to do some of the game. If some of the game feels like a chore, why are you doing it in the first place?

Because in order to play the enjoyable parts, one often needs to do parts he does not enjoy.
Such as having to level in order to raid... and that is Blizzard's fault - if they opened level boosts to max a week or two after relase, problem solved.

[Lochton]

Indeed. Fucking hilarious that they broke the rules and are crying like babies about it.

It is common lately for people to complain about actions taken against them because they did wrong.

Because in order to play the enjoyable parts, one often needs to do parts he does not enjoy.
Such as having to level in order to raid... and that is Blizzard's fault - if they opened level boosts to max a week or two after relase, problem solved.

You can't blame Blizzard for a leveler's laziness.
And sorry, but many (if not all) RPG's has some parts that people don't enjoy, life. It's part of the game, don't enjoy it then find some other to do.

[Eleccybubb]

It is common lately for people to complain about actions taken against them because they did wrong.

You can't blame Blizzard for a leveler's laziness.
And sorry, but many (if not all) RPG's has some parts that people don't enjoy, life. It's part of the game, don't enjoy it then find some other to do.

Oh it's common is it? Ok got it I dropped my sandwich on the ground and I'm gonna go sue subway? How did I do

[Lochton]

Oh it's common is it? Ok got it I dropped my sandwich on the ground and I'm gonna go sue subway? How did I do

Already been a case of that. As well as one sueing for too hot coffee..

[Lex Icon]

Why? because some people actually have a life and can't spend 12 hours a day playing because they don't still live with mommy and daddy.

Grow up and learn to prioritize.

[Eleccybubb]

Because in order to play the enjoyable parts, one often needs to do parts he does not enjoy.
Such as having to level in order to raid... and that is Blizzard's fault - if they opened level boosts to max a week or two after relase, problem solved.

So that justifies botting? Nope. That is like the guy who said it makes shit on the market cheap.

[cFortyfive]

If some of the game feels like a chore, why are you doing it in the first place?

At the end of the day I don't think there is much point into asking why cheating scum is cheating. They'll have what they consider a valid reason regardless how pathetic it is.

Immediate perm might not be the only viable solution, but it certainly is one as well.

Of course it's a viable solution especially when done in higher frequency. Once you hurt the bottom line of a botter enough he'll quit.

Why? because some people actually have a life and can't spend 12 hours a day playing because they don't still live with mommy and daddy.

Calls others out for still living with mommy and daddy - still hasn't learned you don't need to have everything in a game but rather resorts to cheating. Legit.

[Lochton]

At the end of the day I don't think there is much point into asking why cheating scum is cheating. They'll have what they consider a valid reason regardless how pathetic it is.

Deep within, I know, but one can hope that there's a reasonable mind behind the screen.