Questions for the Trumplings

[Eroginous]

Serious question here, what are you Trump supporters expecting from Trump, as in what do you think he is going to do for the country? I cannot find any details on what any of his policies might be so maybe you can tell me. He goes as far as saying the US will win and be great...how is he going to make that happen? That is all I want to know.

Thanks in advance to any who answer.

1. The president has no direct power to make anything happen. He has to win the support of the house and the senate to get something passed into law. Just look at how difficult it's been for the left to get gun legislation passed with a dem president for the last two terms. Nothing gets done, even when you have control of the senate and the highest office in the country. What the fuck makes you think anything will happen at all?

2. Trump is a bag of hot air. That's it. That's how he got popular. People love assholes who talk big shit. That's trump

3. The US is already winning in many areas as well as losing in many areas.

Two reasons

1. Keeping Democrats out of office. They will drive the country into the dirt.
2. Terrifying leftists.

What? Trump isn't terrifying. The idea that we could actually elect such a basic bitch to the highest political position in the country is what's terrifying. Like not even just a possibility, people may actually vote this schmuck into office. Also, no party has ever run the country without fucking something up. That's why it's in the state it's in. No single party will fix it either. Stop with this bipartisan bullshit.

[Hooked]

Care to place a bet on this one? You will lose, mate.

Absolutely "mate". In fact I will bet you that if trump wins in november, isis will magically be defeated before he assumes office in january. Ill bet you a 3 month ban on it. If I lose I will get all kinds of infractions and be banned, if you lose you must do the same.

[May90]

Absolutely "mate". In fact I will bet you that if trump wins in november, isis will magically be defeated before he assumes office in january. Ill bet you a 3 month ban on it. If I lose I will get all kinds of infractions and be banned, if you lose you must do the same.

It's a deal.

[Hooked]

It's a deal.

Ok put it in your calendar, because you are going to have a nice long vacation to ponder your folly.

[May90]

Ok put it in your calendar, because you are going to have a nice long vacation to ponder your folly.

Hmm... What will be the outcome if Trump doesn't win the elections, but ISIS is defeated before Hillary assumes the office?

[Super Kami Dende]

Hmm... What will be the outcome if Trump doesn't win the elections, but ISIS is defeated before Hillary assumes the office?

Then we will be able to laugh about how the Democrats are just as bad of warmongerers as they try to say the Republicans are

[Hooked]

Hmm... What will be the outcome if Trump doesn't win the elections, but ISIS is defeated before Hillary assumes the office?

Well that's pretty much impossible if Hillary is even in the polling lead. No, trump needs to win or isis will follow the same path. You already agreed to the deal, you cant change the rules once you already agreed.

[Blobfish]

I think the leftie Socialists are thinking 2016

Time to put in a Women as President

A Women President , yes would favor this politically correct society.
But in the end, Hillary is an Icon of Women hood oh yes, us Women have finally made it,
but other than ICON Status will it be an effective Presidency.

No..it will follow the continued Obama pattern

Yes, the US Economy is getting better but...
remember who started the GFC.. Billy Clinton. "Cheap Home Loans for Everyone"

Trump has business acumen and will be an Outstanding President of the United States of America

[May90]

I think the leftie Socialists are thinking 2016

Time to put in a Women as President

A Women President , yes would favor this politically correct society.
But in the end, Hillary is an Icon of Women hood oh yes, us Women have finally made it,
but other than ICON Status will it be an effective Presidency.

No..it will follow the continued Obama pattern

Yes, the US Economy is getting better but...
remember who started the GFC.. Billy Clinton. "Cheap Home Loans for Everyone"

Trump has business acumen and will be an Outstanding President of the United States of America

This word you use, "socialist"... I don't think it means what you think it means.

And having a business acumen in no way translates about having a presidency acumen. The issues, the challenges are completely different. Berlusconi is pretty much a classical example of that.

[Alydael]

move them goalposts!.

The truth is the truth, sorry that the truth just so happens to not support your statement. Mc Veigh was labeled conservative by the media. The way he lived his life was not "conservative" at all. He did not represent any of those values at all really.

[Cthulhu 2020]

This word you use, "socialist"... I don't think it means what you think it means.

And having a business acumen in no way translates about having a presidency acumen. The issues, the challenges are completely different. Berlusconi is pretty much a classical example of that.

People like to point out that Trump has only declared bankruptcy three times in a hundred or so brands...

1) Less than 20% of businesses ever declare bankruptcy even once, and three times, while certainly not a record, is horrendous.
2) Declaring bankruptcy means you want that business/brand to continue, and just want your debts deferred. While Trump has declared bankruptcy on 3 businesses, half of his overall businesses have just outright failed under his watch, and either folded or were sold. His strategy for personal wealth is to give himself golden parachutes with every failed business venture.

[Grummgug]

Serious question here, what are you Trump supporters expecting from Trump, as in what do you think he is going to do for the country? I cannot find any details on what any of his policies might be so maybe you can tell me. He goes as far as saying the US will win and be great...how is he going to make that happen? That is all I want to know.

Thanks in advance to any who answer.

I think one of the biggest changes Trump would bring is ending all the SJW / safe space / im offended at everything attitude pervasive in our culture today. He expresses that in the way he says outrageous things to draw the offense of SJWs.

[Deleted]

Sorry but you apparently failed history class when the Southern Strategy happened. The Republicans of Lincoln were the Liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives.

I know Muslims aren't a race, but denying people based on religion is CLEARLY against the first amendment and wouldn't even be put up for a vote. Please go back to fucking high school and learn something before you try debating me.

Sorry, but you twisting that in your favour will not work.

also, you clearly said people agianst muslims were racist. They arent, because muslim isn't a race.

Also, the first amendment; Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Nothing of that is ''clearly'' agianst denying people

Also, If you would pay the smallest bit of attention as what is happening to Europe. You would change your stance in a heartbeat.

Lastly, using ad hominems does not enhance your arguments one bit.

[Masark]

I think one of the biggest changes Trump would bring is ending all the SJW / safe space / im offended at everything attitude pervasive in our culture today. He expresses that in the way he says outrageous things to draw the offense of SJWs.

Really? He seems to be the biggest source of "I'm offended at everything" attitude, judging by the number of lawsuits he threatens.

[Orbitus]

The truth is the truth, sorry that the truth just so happens to not support your statement. Mc Veigh was labeled conservative by the media. The way he lived his life was not "conservative" at all. He did not represent any of those values at all really.

Funny but what you call "truth", flies in the facts of what he has said throughout his life.

He thought just like you did, he hated liberals and bombed that building in Oklahoma City for the Waco siege, which was full of Christian extremists.

Here are quotes from his wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate "promises," they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight. [...] Is a Civil War Imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn't come to that. But it might.[24]

Sounds like the standard TEA party member right there.

The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful, and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control.[30][31]

Sounds like any standard Conservative on this website. I mean every time someone even talks about gun legislation you guys think someone is going to take all of your penile enlargements away.

Those who betray or subvert the Constitution are guilty of sedition and/or treason, are domestic enemies and should and will be punished accordingly.

It also stands to reason that anyone who sympathizes with the enemy or gives aid or comfort to said enemy is likewise guilty. I have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic and I will. And I will because not only did I swear to, but I believe in what it stands for in every bit of my heart, soul and being. I know in my heart that I am right in my struggle, Steve. I have come to peace with myself, my God and my cause. Blood will flow in the streets, Steve. Good vs. Evil. Free Men vs. Socialist Wannabe Slaves. Pray it is not your blood, my friend.

Where have I heard shit like this before? Oh yeah, from people like you, Grummgug, Orlong, Vyxn, etc.

To say that McVeigh was not a conservative, means yes, YOU ARE MOVING THEM GOALPOSTS.

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Sorry, but you twisting that in your favour will not work.

also, you clearly said people agianst muslims were racist. They arent, because muslim isn't a race.

Also, the first amendment; Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Nothing of that is ''clearly'' agianst denying people

Also, If you would pay the smallest bit of attention as what is happening to Europe. You would change your stance in a heartbeat.

Lastly, using ad hominems does not enhance your arguments one bit.

I didn't use ad hominems, you just didn't do your fucking homework. And yes, him expanding libel laws, which have been argued in the Supreme Court over the last 30 years, wouldn't fly. Because he is going to basically get rid of the Free Speech part of the first amendment. So basically he wants to sue comedians for calling him a fucking orangutan like Bill Maher did a couple years ago. That is how retarded your argument is, if that is what you call it.

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Really? He seems to be the biggest source of "I'm offended at everything" attitude, judging by the number of lawsuits he threatens.

They don't see it as SJW if it agrees with them. Isn't that their argument they try to use against us?

[Cricket22]

Nah... we have BLM and marxist collegue kids to do that.

Along with the Bernie Sanders people, who have now turned violent, throwing chairs and sending all kinds of violent threats, including death threats to the Democratic Party leader in Nevada --

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0aee7b8e7dfa2

It’s no secret that some supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) are deeply convinced the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination process is rigged.

They’ve protested front-runner Hillary Clinton’s wins in a number of states under the guise that the rules are too restrictive and the party too partial for the results to be valid. Some have legitimate grievances about the primary process, while others are just tapping into conspiracy theories. The end result is the same: increasingly nasty attacks on officials in the Democratic Party.

At issue was an attempt by the Sanders campaign to try to change convention rules and seat additional delegates. When roughly 60 potential delegates were deemed ineligible because they had not registered as Democrats by the deadline, tempers flared. Then, the convention was forced to end abruptly around 10 p.m. because security staff said delegates couldn’t stay any later. (For a more thorough breakdown of what happened, read Jon Ralston’s take.)

Sanders supporters blamed Lange for undermining their efforts, and they lashed out accordingly. Some of the reaction was reported Monday by The New York Times.

The texts and calls, which came after Lange’s phone number and address were posted on Twitter, threatened violence and contained sexist epithets. One person threatened to buy a home near Lange, while another encouraged her to “prepare for hell.”

The voicemails (some of which were posted by Ralston) were more jarring. “You are a sick, twisted piece of shit and I hope you burn for this!” One caller even told Lange to commit suicide, in a voicemail her aide described as the most threatening one received[.

“You should be tried for treason, stripped of all authority that you think that you have. All your property, everything. You should be hung in the middle of town, till dead. You are a disgrace to the American people. You should just commit suicide. You’re a disgrace. You’re horrible. Nobody wants you in power. You are a dirt bag. You are the reason why we are voting for Bernie Sanders,” the caller said.

The Sanders campaign has responded to the threats by saying it doesn’t condone violence, as well as by encouraging Democrats to “figure out a way to welcome people who have been energized and excited by his campaign into the party.” Some Democrats have deemed this an insufficient attempt to tamp down the rhetoric and emotions.

In the meantime, the anger unleashed Saturday has spilled beyond the political realm. Tom Gallagher, a majority partner in the tavern where Lange serves as operations manager, said the bar has been getting threatening phone calls since 3 a.m. Sunday. Eventually, they had to shut down their phones, only to watch as they were bombarded online.

The tavern’s Facebook page and website were overtaken by people demanding that Lange be fired. Someone created a phony Facebook account for Lange that accused her of “scurrilous stuff” — as Gallagher put it — and claimed her husband had committed crimes against children. Someone managed to alter the Google search results so it appeared the tavern was permanently closed.

“I’ve been in politics for 50 years now,” said Gallagher, who ran for Congress in 2004. “And I think Bernie is losing control of his people. These are folks out there who have no concept about rational political discourse. Now a lot of Bernie’s folks are really good friends of mine and they’re embarrassed by this. But there are crazies out there that are truly a little scary.”

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That was not meant as an insult by any means.

So using your Logic and tactics, you don't mind if we call everyone voting for Hillary Hilla-Hitlers?

[Ghostpanther]

I'm well aware much of the GOP has decided to kiss the ring. That doesn't change anything I said. Nor are Clinton's unfavorability ratings relevant to my claim either.

And you'll need to do some citing of your own

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...cord-breaking/

I am aware his unfavorable ratings have been high. But my point is there are indications of trends which indicate maybe that is beginning to change some http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...llary-n2165199 recent ones. Not ones back before this month of May. And also I am not saying this poll is even 100% accurate, but it does show a interesting shift. Because this same poll back in March had his unfavorable ratings higher than Hillary's.

[Saucexorzski]

I wont claim to speak for others but for me its simple. He will rock the boat.

IMO US folks have it far to easy. We are fat, we are wealthy, and we have it far to easy for far to long to see how good we have it. I will vote to keep any establishment candidate out of office. Fuck the Bush's, fuck the Clinton's, fuck these career politicians and the family dynasty. History shows that humanity is at it bests when it has to struggle to over come adversity.

Ill vote for trump because he will most likely take the US down a very hard and rocky road. He will kill globalization, that will hurt every one as prices for all goods go up, but it might will have the effect of increases production here in the US and US jobs will increase. He will fight illegal immigration, food prices will rise as cheap labor go away, that will suck, but it might make folks realize our cheap ass food was derived from underpaid laborers and we might just take a look at our portions sizes and stop being gluttons.

I could be wrong and i'm sure certain folks on these boards will tell me so, but i really don't care. Forcing others to help their fellow man, like what the current push of the left want, does not create a cohesive society, it just builds resentment. When we face true trouble and as individuals acknowledge that putting aside our differences and working together is the way to over come obstacles that is when we will become the melting pot that America claims to be.

[Pangean]

Hey, I admit I'm biased. But this is a really serious issue. I know it will be all but impossible to stop without censorship. Technically, they aren't doing anything 'wrong'. They take facts, sometimes very specific ones, throw in some buzzwords like 'tragedy', and do what it takes to get everyone into the same state of mind. I'm using primarily local news as an example as it is the primary source of information to most Americans. Sure, there might be less biased, more factual reporting out there, but it isn't as popular. Probably because they are more factual and less biased.

I honestly don't see a solution to this problem. It's like trying to stop a kid growing up in a cult compound from adopting said cult's beliefs. The media has every right in the world to twist information to suit their needs. Trump being elected and calling them out for what they really are, though, might open a few eyes. This is the sort of thing Anonymous should get involved with...

All Trump would do if we are to accept your arguments as being valid (they aren't) is change the decider of the narrative from the evil media conspiracy to a government decided one. If you think this is a preferable direction to move to it's clear that democracy is a tad too troublesome for you and a nice strong leader is what you desire. Hence why you support Trump.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I think one of the biggest changes Trump would bring is ending all the SJW / safe space / im offended at everything attitude pervasive in our culture today. He expresses that in the way he says outrageous things to draw the offense of SJWs.

How exactly will he end all of this with the limited powers of the president without declaring himself fuhrer and becoming a fascist dictator?