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    MH17 crash: Victims' families sue Putin and Russia

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36350520

    Families of victims of downed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 are suing Russia and its President Vladimir Putin in the European Court of Human Rights.

    The jet was shot down by a Russian-made missile over eastern Ukraine in 2014, killing all 298 on board.

    The West and Ukraine say Russian-backed rebels were responsible but Russia accuses Ukrainian forces.

    The families' claim is based on the violation of a passenger's right to life, News.com.au reported.

    The claim is for 10 million Australian dollars ($7.2m; £4.9m) for each victim, and the lawsuit names both the Russian state and its president as respondents.

    Jerry Skinner, a US-based aviation lawyer leading the case, told News.com.au it was difficult for the families to live with, knowing it was "a crime".

    "The Russians don't have any facts for blaming Ukraine, We have facts, photographs, memorandums, tonnes of stuff."

    Mr Skinner said they were waiting to hear from the ECHR whether the case had been accepted.
    I suspect chances of Aliens molesting the Queen are higher than this happening

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    Putin would just claim he and his high office had nothing to do with it and that he was only made aware of the crash after seeing it on the news.

    Then he'd grant executive privilege to any of his subordinates that were called to testify even though the extension of executive privilege cannot come without direct involvement of the office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    We have facts, photographs, memorandums, tonnes of stuff
    No, they don't. All they have are anti-russian propaganda pieces that western media started spinning off the moment plane went down, none of it are based on any facts. All Russians have are anti-ukirainian propaganda bullshit that russian media started spewing the moment plane went down, also without any facts.

    There are no proofs for ether side. If they want to blame someone, blame whoever organized coup in Ukraine that resulted in war, blame Poroshenko for sending military to start war (way before he was "elected" president). Or blame company that decided to fly passenger plane through war zone to save fuel money.

    Chances that Russia blew up that plane are equal to those that Ukraine did it. We'll never know what really happened.

    That lawsuit is nothing but lawyers milking relatives of victims for lawyer fees and free PR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I'm suspecting Ivan and Vladimir who shot it down got quietly transferred to a military post in Siberia and went missing shortly afterwards.
    Such two people have never been in the Russian military to begin with, I have no idea what you are talking about.

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    SKINNNNNERR!!

    This is a joke and it's sad to see dead people used as balls in a political game of tennis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Yes. I'm sure the families first concern is to play some political game instead of trying to get the killers of their family members brought to justice.
    Who... Putin?
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binki View Post
    Chances that Russia blew up that plane are equal to those that Ukraine did it.
    How did you come to that conclusion? Now what misile crew have the greatest opportunity to make a misidentification.

    1) the side who know the enemy do not have aircrafts?
    2) the side who are bombed by enemy aircraft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Binki View Post
    That lawsuit is nothing but lawyers milking relatives of victims for lawyer fees and free PR.
    Yes it will result to nothing....

    20 year later then this is not a relevant political weapon, like KAL007 Russia will "rediscover" that they did have real evidence of what actually happened (In KAL007 case the black box was withheld by USSR)

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    Putin has $2 billion US dollars in offshore accounts, he can afford to pay a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    I suspect chances of Aliens molesting the Queen are higher than this happening
    Prince Philip was born in Greece and could be described as an alien.

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    In Putin's defense, he was too busy to know what happened until after the fact.

    A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a77 View Post
    How did you come to that conclusion? Now what misile crew have the greatest opportunity to make a misidentification.

    1) the side who know the enemy do not have aircrafts?
    2) the side who are bombed by enemy aircraft?
    The side which has more crews, obviously. Since both sides can be professional OR recent recruits. And Ukrainian side WAS bombed by rebel Su, as well as claimed that Russian fighter shot their jet over Ukraine a few days before MH17.

    Thus, Ukraine is most likely suspect.

    20 year later then this is not a relevant political weapon, like KAL007 Russia will "rediscover" that they did have real evidence of what actually happened (In KAL007 case the black box was withheld by USSR)
    I'm pretty sure Ukrainians will come out in process of re-integration with Russia (regardless of them being or not being actual perpetrators). As part of "crimes of previous regime we have nothing to do with".

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    Let's almost crash into an U.S. Navy ship. Let's shoot a plane from the sky. Let our jets get shot from the sky, because Russia knows when to take and when to give.



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    Hahahahha, gl with that.

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    Can someone explain to me this idea of wanting to sue people or entities from which you will never ever see a penny?

    Suing Putin, suing Saudi Arabia. Why?
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    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

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    Yeah, all these people will have mysterious "accidents" or sudden fatal "illnesses" reeeeeeeeal soon.
    "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it" - George Orwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    ?????????????????????
    They claimed to have captured Su-25 that was forced to land in Luhansk on 7th July, and on 13th July reportedly got it flying and striking Ukrainian positions, and on 14th it reportedly destroyed 6 tanks and 1 APC.

    And since Ukrainians DID ramp up their anti-air forces activity after this, it looks like they took it seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    They claimed to have captured Su-25 that was forced to land in Luhansk on 7th July, and on 13th July reportedly got it flying and striking Ukrainian positions, and on 14th it reportedly destroyed 6 tanks and 1 APC.

    And since Ukrainians DID ramp up their anti-air forces activity after this, it looks like they took it seriously.
    Lol what a joke, I miss the old "our economy is great" shalcker, did he get fired? Shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slinkypoe View Post
    Let's shoot a plane from the sky.
    Since when is Ukraine part of Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmp View Post
    Since when is Ukraine part of Russia?
    Haven't you heard Russia never lost control of Ukranie it's just a rogue region /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Lol what a joke, I miss the old "our economy is great" shalcker, did he get fired? Shame.
    *shug* Ukrainians believed either this or that Russian planes shot their bombers enough to ramp up their anti-air force readiness. That's all that matters.

    They had way more people who could make the mistake at the moment it was made.

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