MH17 crash: Victims' families sue Putin and Russia

[Deleted]

Did the seperatist have heavy AA? Do you have a source? a real source not a rumor? International Civil Aviation can not act on rumors....

http://www.ibtimes.com/mh17-crash-kr...-weeks-1632758

Do you not remember?

[Skroe]

Oh yeah to illustrate. From stratfor



So to solve that.



Sites are being chosen.

[Varitok]

Who... Putin?
lol

Yeah its not like the Russian's provided arms to the rebels who shot down the plane!

Stop treating Russia as innocent. This is getting really annoying. They even tried to release a terribly photoshopped google earth image of two jets they claim are Ukrainian shooting down the plane.

Sometimes I wonder if everyone on the internet is a paid Russian shiller.

[Deleted]

Yeah its not like the Russian's provided arms to the rebels who shot down the plane!

Stop treating Russia as innocent. This is getting really annoying. They even tried to release a terribly photoshopped google earth image of two jets they claim are Ukrainian shooting down the plane.

Sometimes I wonder if everyone on the internet is a paid Russian shiller.

Stop assuming shit.

[Deleted]

Skroe nice pictures you got there, sad that GMD successfully intercepts only half of the time - and it's not getting better over time.
So who cares. Most of them will hit your cities.

[Varitok]

Stop assuming shit.

Assuming what? Awww did I insult your precious Putin?

[Robert WG]

Yeah its not like the Russian's provided arms to the rebels who shot down the plane!

Stop treating Russia as innocent. This is getting really annoying. They even tried to release a terribly photoshopped google earth image of two jets they claim are Ukrainian shooting down the plane.

Sometimes I wonder if everyone on the internet is a paid Russian shiller.

Sometimes I wonder if everyone on the Internet is a hypocrite. Everybody doing the same all over the world, but only the "other" one doing it is cause for outrage. This is the era of misinformation and propaganda. This is the era of the self righteous and the hypcrites, claiming the whole world is wrong except for them. This is the era of the self interest and egocentric behavior. Don't expect that to change soon.

[Crispin]

Skroe nice pictures you got there, sad that GMD successfully intercepts only half of the time - and it's not getting better over time.
So who cares. Most of them will hit your cities.

You don't think they're better spent on military targets?

[Deleted]

Assuming what? Awww did I insult your precious Putin?

Keep your childish remark and toxicity for the rest of the lads in here.

[Varitok]

Keep your childish remark and toxicity for the rest of the lads in here.

Ah so you won't elaborate on your statement to what shit I am assuming? Don't call out people with nothing to back it up. I'm sick of people defending this dictator asshole who has his political opponents killed or silenced and starts proxy wars with other nations in hopes of resurrecting the "glory" of the Soviet Union.

[sonololo]

Skroe nice pictures you got there, sad that GMD successfully intercepts only half of the time - and it's not getting better over time.
So who cares. Most of them will hit your cities.

So who cares, your cities will be too obliterated. That should in itself enough to prevent you from launching WMD.

Because MAD works so beautifully, it allows for full scale conventional war; because even if the losing side uses WMD, it will just cement their place as losing side, and strips out any chance of truce. Even if there will be no winning side.

[Skroe]

Skroe nice pictures you got there, sad that GMD successfully intercepts only half of the time - and it's not getting better over time.
So who cares. Most of them will hit your cities.

GMD is a developmental system and won't be ready for another 10 years. But that'll be on top of 35 years of work. And we won't have gotten to that actual functioning system without going through all that period of having a half-functioning or non-functioning system. But once we have it, like Aegis, we'll ALWAYS have it.

We in civilization call that "technology development".

The biggest failing of GMD is the interceptor is terrible. It is being replaced with a new Multi-Kill Interceptor that solves the MIRV'd warhead problem.



Each of those white things is a kill vehicle.

Once this is fully developed, GMD should be much more reliable, but it'll need a better booster after that.

But fundamentally, whats your point? Because something doesn't work fully yet it isn't worth pursuing? How should we get anything to ever work. You see, situations like this - pressing on and working through the trouble, gives the US it's lead. We can afford to do it. Russia and most others cannot.

[Deleted]

Ah so you won't elaborate on your statement to what shit I am assuming? Don't call out people with nothing to back it up.

Of course I won't. I have absolutely no interested to engage in a discussion with someone that opens up a debate the way you did.
Once again, there's plenty of people in this thread that dont mind that. Have a chat with them.

[Ealyssa]

Can someone explain to me this idea of wanting to sue people or entities from which you will never ever see a penny?

Suing Putin, suing Saudi Arabia. Why?

You actual can quite "easily" freeze some assets of a country outside their boundaries if you have a legal right to do so. Russia especialy saw that more than once. Last year France bloqued all russian possession in the country (Diplomatic representation assets included. And no, embassy aren't foreign territory according to the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations contrary to usual belief) amounting to 50 billions dollars after the shady Ioukos dismantling.

It's effective to force payment, but quite hard to put in place.

[Skroe]

You don't think they're better spent on military targets?

Almost all warheads target military targets. Mostly other nuclear launch sites and military infrastructure (like NORAD, the Pentagon, Central Command). Because Russia doesn't want its cities nuked.

b2121945 of course, didn't know that.

[Varitok]

Of course I won't. I have absolutely no interested to engage in a discussion with someone that opens up a debate the way you did.
Once again, there's plenty of people in this thread that dont mind that. Have a chat with them.

You started the debate with "Stop assuming shit". That so hilarious and hypocritical and a sure way of showing you had no idea what you typed. Good luck with the rest of your discussions, Thanks for the laugh.

[Deleted]

Toxic thread is toxic.

[Varitok]

Toxic thread is toxic.

Then leave, no one's forcing you to stay here.

[Deleted]

Then leave, no one's forcing you to stay here.

With pleasure.

[Puupi]

With pleasure.

You are easily pleasured.