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What are the actual in-universe full, formal names for the main states on Azeroth?
It is known for a few races: the human state is the Kingdom of Stormwind, the dwarf state is the Kingdom of Ironforge, and of course there's Gilneas and the Bilgewater Cartel. The Tauren state was sometimes called the 'United Tauren Tribes', but I am not sure if that is canon.
What about orcs, though? In TFT, Thrall referred to the orc nation-state as "Durotar, the first orcish kingdom". Does that mean the orc state is called the "Kingdom of Durotar"? If so, does Thrall/Garrosh/Saurfang only rule Orgrimmar and the area in its vicinity directly, with the Barrens, the Horde holdings in Pandaria, and their Northrend outposts as Durotar's colonial domains? Is Thrall/Garrosh/Saurfang technically a king?
What about the Forsaken? What is the name of their nation-state? Are they the Kingdom of the Forsaken? Forsakenia? The Kingdom of the Undercity, or do they still call the land they live on Lordaeron?
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2016-05-21, 09:42 PM #1Dreadlord
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Names of main Warcraft states
The shadowy Daughter of Urthona stood before red Orc,
When fourteen suns had faintly journey'd o'er his dark abode:
His food she brought in iron baskets, his drink in cups of iron:
Crown'd with a helmet and dark hair the nameless female stood;
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2016-05-21, 09:45 PM #2The Insane
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orcs: "The Horde"
forsaken: "Lordaeron"
Formerly known as Arafal
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2016-05-21, 09:46 PM #3Dreadlord
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But the Horde is not just orcs. The orcish nation, whatever it is, is merely one constituent of it.
Originally Posted by Arafal123
Like, the Russian Soviet Federal Socialist Republic was the Soviet Union's core, but it was not all of it: Russia was not the same as the USSR.The shadowy Daughter of Urthona stood before red Orc,
When fourteen suns had faintly journey'd o'er his dark abode:
His food she brought in iron baskets, his drink in cups of iron:
Crown'd with a helmet and dark hair the nameless female stood;
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2016-05-21, 10:09 PM #4Deleted
The orcish nation of Orgrimmar and the forsaken realm of Undercity. Yes, they tend to use their capital names for the nations.
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2016-05-21, 10:50 PM #5Brewmaster
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I'll try to list what I think would be the name of each nation of Azeroth, it's capital, and it's leader, at the time of the Timeshift War and the Draenor Campaign:
High Kingdom of Quel'Thalas - Silvermoon - Regent Lord Lor'themar Theron;
Kingdom of Zul'Aman - Zul'Aman - Unknown (possibly in a ruined state) ;
The Forsaken Kingdom of Lordaeron - The Undercity - Banshee Queen Sylvanas Windrunner;
Kingdom of Gilneas - Gilneas City - King Genn Greymane (currently in exile, in a contested state);
Kingdom of Kul Tiras - Boralus(?) - Unknown(Tandred? Jaina?)
Wildhammer Territories - Aerie Peak - High Thane Falstad Wildhammer;
Kingdom of Khaz Modan - City of Ironforge - The Council of Three Hammers;
Republic of Gnomeregan - Gnomeregan - High Tinker Gelbin Mekkatorque;
The Azeroth Kingdom of Stormwind - Stormwind City - King Varian Wrynn;
Kingdom of Zul'Gurub - Zul'Gurub - Unknown (possibly in a ruined state);
Naarian Territories of the Draenei - The Exodar - The Prophet Velen;
Darnassian Lands of Kalimdor - Darnassus - High Priestess Tyrande Whisperwind & Archdruid Malfurion Stormrage;
Horde Nation of Durotar - Orgrimmar - Warchief Vol'jin;
United Tauren Tribes - Thunder Bluff - High Chieftain Baine Bloodhoof;
Kingdom of Ramkahen - Ramkahen - King Phaoris;
Kingdom of Zul'Farrak - Zul'Farrak - Unknown (possibly in a ruined state);
Empire of Ahn'Qiraj - Ahn'Qiraj - Unknown (possibly in a ruined state);
Klaxxi Empire - Klaxxi'Vess - Unknown;
Empire of Nazjatar - Nazjatar - Queen Azshara;
Kingdom of Zandalar - Zuldazar - King Rastakhan; (possibly in a ruined state);
State of Suramar - Suramar - Grand Magistrix Elisande;
Magocracy of Dalaran - Dalaran - Archmage Jaina Proudmoore;
Kingdom of Zul'Drak - Zul'Drak - Unknown (possibly in a ruined state)Last edited by Ethenil; 2016-05-22 at 03:57 AM.
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2016-05-22, 12:17 AM #6Brewmaster
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The Sunstriders are all dead, so who is he acting as regent for? Geez guys, just make him King already! Originally Posted by Ethenil
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2016-05-22, 12:22 AM #7Epic!
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He doesn't want it. Originally Posted by kabshiel
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2016-05-22, 02:33 AM #8Deleted
I think Khadgar of the Kirin Tor should be King of Quel'thalas.
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2016-05-22, 02:57 AM #9The Unstoppable Force
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Rommath would burn down Dalaran 110% if the kirin tor even whispered that as a joke. Originally Posted by M-Ra
Jokes aside. I wonder how close a Kirin Tor mage can get to Quel'thalas now without getting killedLast edited by Friendlyimmolation; 2016-05-22 at 02:59 AM.
Originally Posted by WoWKnight65
Holy shit lol
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2016-05-22, 03:10 AM #10DeletedIn Blizzard Canon, they could enter Quel'thalas if they are handsome man. You know, because Blizzard depicts all Blood Elves as girls or homosexuals. Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation
And is their a Canon argument that Rommath is more powerful than the weakest member of the six?
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2016-05-22, 03:47 AM #11Brewmaster
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I think since Khadgar happened to Dalaran and it accepted the Horde again, Quel'Thalas would accept them back.
Anyway, forgot a couple states so edited.
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2016-05-22, 04:07 AM #12Scarab Lord
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what are you even on? Originally Posted by M-Ra
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
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2016-05-22, 02:50 PM #13The Unstoppable Force
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He has the title of Arch Mage from dalaran, and Trained directly under Belo'vir Salonar.And is their a Canon argument that Rommath is more powerful than the weakest member of the six? Originally Posted by WoWKnight65
Holy shit lol
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2016-05-22, 03:17 PM #14Legendary!
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it's more than that too, think of LotR and Gondor - a King is a different level of exceptional. Till Aragorn returned and claimed his heritage there was no king in Gondor, and it was Regents that ruled. And it was not just a matter of turning up saying hey, I am the king - he inspired a whole nation of people, and achieved some extraordinary feats, he was Kingly before becoming King, ancient Israeli King David is a similar thing in history. Originally Posted by kabshiel
Any king of the Blood elves people would have to show an equivalent degree of pedigree, you can't force being king either, your people have to accept you. People argue about how un-decomcratic the feudal system was, like it was some absolute dictatorship. It wasn't! The general reality was that your reign's stability was based on your popularity and acceptance by the people, but not just that, their respect and honouring of you, which is why they would sometimes do things they did not like or agree with (for a period anyway), because of trust and respect.. But you abused your authority or did things they didn't like for too long, you'd find yourself deposed King or no.
In most of the nations, elevation to King came out of love. An individual greatly admired and respect having achieved greatness for his people, a person that people listened to often unquestioningly because of that. So great were his achievements for his people and victories they would follow him to the gates of hell. That's how a King is born. Through birth, his heirs are considered an extension of him. Even if they underachieve at first or appear weak, it is the same noble blood that flows through them and great things are expected. Usually they are also received. WHy is this believed? Well because every human knows that like Father, like son, it goes for the bad as well as the good. Even if they don't understand the truth behind how that works, life shows you this. Sons are most often like their Fathers. Sometimes they are not and it skips a generation but generally they are until you have a string of bad results or a son does an unspeakable crime or act, which if very fire might result in the end of the dynasty. But not always.
Some in the quest for power force themselves to leadership through slaughter and conquest, fear is what causes them to stay as Kings, but we refer to them as dictators though they declare themselves Kings or Lords of a people, they are not, they are pretenders, sometimes usurpers whether literally or figuratively.Last edited by Mace; 2016-05-22 at 03:26 PM.
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2016-05-22, 06:39 PM #15Titan
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He needs to just die already so we can get decent Blood elf lore that involves the affairs of their kingdom. Everyone complains of how much of a wet noodle Vol'Jin is when the worst offender of "did nothing since BC" is right there. Originally Posted by Enthralled
As for the Kingdom of Zandalar, it isn't in a ruined state. MoP implies their island was sinking since the Cataclysm, but the fact that they've organized an entire army and united the ruined troll tribes of the Farraki, Amani, Gurubashi and Drakkari implies their government is still fully intact. It's like saying Stormwind is in a ruined state because the park got destroyed.
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2016-05-22, 06:58 PM #16Epic!
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Are you talking about Lor'themar? He's done a lot. Did you not play in Mists? I'd go so far as to call him bad-ass. Originally Posted by Humbugged
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2016-05-22, 07:02 PM #17Titan
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He does nothing throughout all of WoW to the point of becoming a meme, he has a moment of brief bad ass in patch 5.2 and we're suddenly going to say he's no longer obsolete because in his 10+ years of rule his only action is attempted betrayal of the Horde by going turncoat and (finally) making his people do something for a change? Originally Posted by Enthralled
I can't wait for that Gallywix quest chain that makes him the most badass Horde leader in patch 7.3
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2016-05-22, 10:13 PM #18Titan
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Isn't Pandaria an Empire that formerly had an Emperor? Originally Posted by Ethenil
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2016-05-22, 10:23 PM #19Immortal
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he does not want to be king. Originally Posted by kabshiel
I would like to he has the title of lord protector as Cromwell
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read sunwell trilogy, Tides of Darkness, blood of the highborne. lorthemar is a good character Originally Posted by Humbugged
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2016-05-22, 10:26 PM #20Titan
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Fixed that for ya! Originally Posted by Ethenil
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