[TV/Books] Game of Thrones ***SPOILER Discussion***

[Skroe]

Interesting episode.

I think Brienne going to Riverrun makes it very likely we might actually see Lady Stoneheart.

The Hodor bit was really confusing. Did he become that way because he could hear Meera through Bran's vision. Are the visions like a link between the past and future? Like if you whisper something to someone during a vision they will hear it in the past. I'm surprised the "hold door" thing was true.




I thought it was hilarious. No one was expecting dick right in there face

There is something very wonky with the timeline. Bran's ability to see elsewhere expanded into the past and has expanded to the point that he is able to influence events. Hodor end up becoming a predestination paradox. He got Bran to Bloodraven, only so Bran could go back into the past to make him what he was, so he could get Bran to Bloodraven.

Wouldn't be surprised if Bran's fumbling with this power causes a cascade of terrible events happening.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the corpse of Hodor shows up in the White Walker Army at the end of the series.

[Hellravager]

I just gotta ask this, whats with everyone in this thread focusing on a penis and whether it was shown or not?

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There is something very wonky with the timeline. Bran's ability to see elsewhere expanded into the past and has expanded to the point that he is able to influence events. Hodor end up becoming a predestination paradox. He got Bran to Bloodraven, only so Bran could go back into the past to make him what he was, so he could get Bran to Bloodraven.

Wouldn't be surprised if Bran's fumbling with this power causes a cascade of terrible events happening.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the corpse of Hodor shows up in the White Walker Army at the end of the series.

Couldnt bran go back in time and stop Ned from getting killed by the little prick on the throne who shall not be named?

[Khaza-R]

I just gotta ask this, whats with everyone in this thread focusing on a penis and whether it was shown or not?

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Couldnt bran go back in time and stop Ned from getting killed by the little prick on the throne who shall not be named?

Because male gentalia isn't something very common on US television. It something they deliberately added for shock value. Much like everything else we discuss on here

[KrazyK923]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Jsj9V_Aqg&t=5m21s

"Hold the Door" = Hodor and his origin story was GRRM's idea.

Just wanted to put that in before we get the typical suspects screaming about how stupid D&D are.

[Bill Nye the Spy]

Couldnt bran go back in time and stop Ned from getting killed by the little prick on the throne who shall not be named?

The Three Eye'd Raven said it himself, the ink is already dry. Everything that's happened in the past has to happen again, even if Bran caused it. He can't change the past, he might think he can, but hes just going to cause what has already happened.

[TirielWoW]

I have to say, the Tormund/Brienne ship was the best part of the episode for me.

[Bill Nye the Spy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Jsj9V_Aqg&t=5m21s

"Hold the Door" = Hodor and his origin story was GRRM's idea.

Just wanted to put that in before we get the typical suspects screaming about how stupid D&D is.

It obviously wasn't D&D's idea else it would have been terrible. It's a very short list of what D&D has changed that is actually good.

[TirielWoW]

How is that even possible, it was the only thing in the frame.

I was painting my nails, ok?!

[KrazyK923]

It obviously wasn't D&D's idea else it would have been terrible. It's a very short list of what D&D has changed that is actually good.

Yeah thanks we get it.

[Skroe]

I just gotta ask this, whats with everyone in this thread focusing on a penis and whether it was shown or not?

Because they cut to it so quickly and randomly it was the international equivlanet of 20 million people getting slapped in the face with a 3 foot penis simultaneously.

It's rather hysterical. And it served no purpose in the scene other than to be gratuitous.

Couldnt bran go back in time and stop Ned from getting killed by the little prick on the throne who shall not be named?

No I think he isn't going to have the ability to change the past, only fulfill it. He maybe the one who drove the Mad King mad, for example (it's one theory). And there will be no outcome other than that.

I think it goes both ways though. I'm not sure how yet, but there is a relationship between Bran and the Night's King. I've long believed that the Wights / Army of the Undead are one big super-warg by the White Walkers. But what if through mystical / time mumbo jumbo, Bran, Blood Raven, the Nights King, and others, all turn out to be... I hate to use the word but... "incarnations" of one figure, the super-greenseer, who can mass-warg. From one perspective, Bran could litterally be fighting himself. The Nights King could be in essence, an echo of him from the past, the came from the future.

Time travel is a cunt.

[Skayth]

This might have been the episode that the shark was jumped.

nah... if you read the books, theres already been wibbly wobbly timey whimey already, with brann and the wyrewood tree and jon.

[TirielWoW]

Yeah I'm more focused on how Sansa can still feel Ramsay's in her butt. That's fucked up.

I shouldn't have to explain this, but what she appeared to be hinting at is that he left lasting damage to her body. It could also be a reference to the deep-seated shame and self-loathing that many rape victims experience after they've been attacked.

[Ethenil]

I'd be all for Bran causing stuff to have happened, like making Aerys mad. On the show though, absolutely not in the books. Anyway, while I loved the play in Braavos, the rest has me unconvinced. I guess I like the books too much and I was angry that Euron isn't even "Crow's Eye" in the series.

The Hodor thing was cool, though I don't understand yet how Bran could be simultaneously having a vision and in Hodor's mind, and how being in his mind in the past can make him act in the present. I wonder how much of all this will be in the books, although I don't doubt it will be presented in a better way.

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Hold the door. R.I.P buddy

Bran better step up and do something meaningful with all the people dying for him so far

[Seezer]

Yeah I'm more focused on how Sansa can still feel Ramsay's in her butt. That's fucked up.

She probably has a prolapsed anus now.

[Brubear]

Yeah Sam's been on a boat for episodes now ! While Littlefinger can travel to MC in 5 minutes with a whole army (which seems to be invisible to the Boltons at MC).
They just want to finish the story, we get it, but at least get your stupid timeline straight @D&D.

Still hasn't been on a boat as long as Gendry...

[Twix]

Hold the door hodor lel RIP

[TirielWoW]

lets go kill my neice and nephew ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Joke's on him - they already left! xD

[Deleted]

Joke's on him - they already left! xD

The Greyjoys: "Make me a thousand ships and I will give you the world" Looses every battle not on sea ever

[Shadgalaul]

Hold the door hodor lel RIP

This... so sad to see him go, but in all honesty, the best death (most meaningful) so far. Hodor is a hero!!!!!!!!!!!