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    I have been using AMDGPU-PRO a bit and even for beta I am not happy. Yes I am using R9 390 which for some reason isn't supported even tho' it was released last year it worse than Mesa. Screen tearing, overall choppy desktop environment, video playback issues. Some people report slight improvement in fps in games with Vulkan but it's not worth it. Looks like AMD is still at it, focusing on only the latest cards but even that may not be true.
    Yes I know it's beta driver but I've seen AMD doing this for a long time now. Nvidia look more and more like the only way to go in near future.

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    Nvidia doesn't have any working open source driver though.

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    Interesting news today, as someone got Arch Linux running on PS4 with 3D acceleration working, and they ran Steam on it. Just thought it was cool.


    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    I have been using AMDGPU-PRO a bit and even for beta I am not happy. Yes I am using R9 390 which for some reason isn't supported even tho' it was released last year it worse than Mesa. Screen tearing, overall choppy desktop environment, video playback issues. Some people report slight improvement in fps in games with Vulkan but it's not worth it. Looks like AMD is still at it, focusing on only the latest cards but even that may not be true.
    Yes I know it's beta driver but I've seen AMD doing this for a long time now. Nvidia look more and more like the only way to go in near future.
    It'll be a while before the hybrid drivers are mature. Later this year the Vulkan drivers should be open sourced so you wouldn't need to download AMD's hybrid drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artorius View Post
    Nvidia doesn't have any working open source driver though.
    Well, closed source drivers aren't exactly virus, at least nvidia's stuff works better than amd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    Interesting news today, as someone got Arch Linux running on PS4 with 3D acceleration working, and they ran Steam on it. Just thought it was cool.




    It'll be a while before the hybrid drivers are mature. Later this year the Vulkan drivers should be open sourced so you wouldn't need to download AMD's hybrid drivers.
    I lost my faith in AMD. I don't know if I can make it to xmass, I want to get rid of my 390 crap and i am looking in 1070 direction. The fact that nvidia has like x2 the performance of amd speaks for it's self. Screw open source drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    I lost my faith in AMD. I don't know if I can make it to xmass, I want to get rid of my 390 crap and i am looking in 1070 direction. The fact that nvidia has like x2 the performance of amd speaks for it's self. Screw open source drivers.
    I'm fine waiting for AMD to finish their open source drivers. For me, the open source drivers out weigh perfectly working proprietary drivers. Lots of benefits with open source. Look at the PS4 Arch video I posted. The 3D works through open source drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    I'm fine waiting for AMD to finish their open source drivers. For me, the open source drivers out weigh perfectly working proprietary drivers. Lots of benefits with open source. Look at the PS4 Arch video I posted. The 3D works through open source drivers.
    I'm going to wait 'till december and than I'm buying my new card, whatever it will be, but right now it looks like nvidia has massive headstart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    I'm going to wait 'till december and than I'm buying my new card, whatever it will be, but right now it looks like nvidia has massive headstart.
    I'd say you have time, considering the rate of which games are ported over to Linux. It seems when a game hits rock bottom low prices, the studio will port the game to Linux for the headlines and hopefully boost sales. I was hoping that Witcher 3 would be ported to Linux long ago, but it seems less likely everyday. If it does get ported, it'll be to boost sales. Mostly for the attention they'll receive.

    None of the new games coming out is even remotely making it to Linux. If Valve wants Linux to be a serious gaming platform they need to make a special compatibility layer to play these games on Linux. I have better experience playing Wii U games on my PC than Windows games on Linux through Wine. Wine-Staging is far better than regular Wine, but progress is painfully slow. Where the hell is DX11 or even DX10 compatibility?

    Unless something changes, I'm not in a hurry to run Linux games on my PC. Hence why my main PC still runs Windows 10. I have at least 7 PCs running Linux, but I don't expect to play too many games on those machines. Super fast graphics is also not important to me at the moment as much as OpenGL 4.5 and Gallium-Nine.

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    Benchmarks of Dota2 running on Vulkan with both AMD and Nvidia graphics. Some reason the 980 Ti is 100% faster than the 980. Something must be wrong with Nvdia's drivers. AMD is just AMD with Linux. Not terribly bad, but not good when a 285 is faster than a 290.

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...2-vulkan&num=2

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    I figure I'll update this thread with a guide on how to setup a ftp with vsftpd on Ubuntu/Mint type distros.

    First install vsftpd.

    Code:
    sudo apt-get install vsftpd
    Now we need to edit the vsftpd.conf file. Hopefully you have gedit installed, otherwise install it.

    Code:
    sudo gedit /etc/vsftpd.conf
    Now remove # for these lines.

    Code:
    write_enable=YES
    local_umask=022 
    chroot_local_user=YES
    Add these lines at the very end. Doesn't matter where you put them, so long as you can find them again if needed. Hit save and close when you're done.

    Code:
    allow_writeable_chroot=YES
    pasv_enable=Yes
    pasv_min_port=40000
    pasv_max_port=40100
    pasv_promiscuous=YES
    The router must port forward port 21 and ports 40000 to 40100. Yes that's 100 ports that need to be forwarded, so find the port range ability of your router, or try entering 40000-40100. This is something you'll have to figure out if you want to access your ftp outside your home. Now you'll want to give a user rights to ftp. You can do it the UI method with 'Users and Groups'.



    Or the Terminal method.

    Code:
    sudo adduser user ftp
    sudo adduser user ftpaccess
    If you want a specific person to have access to their own ftp, you can make your own ftp user. Cause when you access your login user name like BOB for example, you have access to the home folder. So if you share your ftp with friends and don't want them finding your porn collection and bank info, make a new ftp user. They will have a empty home folder.

    Code:
    sudo useradd --home /home/ftp --group ftp-users --shell /bin/dummy ftpuser
    sudo passwd ftpuser
    That should be it. Find your IP and try to login with your favorite ftp client. I prefer FireFTP for Firefox. I would recommend a DNS. You can also try accessing your FTP from Android with AndFTP. It's a great way to find out if your FTP can be accessed outside from WAN.
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    Hopefully someone can help me with this. I installed WoW in PlayonLinux on Ubuntu (first SSD). Now, I want to install it on Antergos Mate (2nd SSD) but I don't really want to dowload the game again. Can I just create some kind of shortcut in Antergos' Playonlinux to Ubuntu's installation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    Hopefully someone can help me with this. I installed WoW in PlayonLinux on Ubuntu (first SSD). Now, I want to install it on Antergos Mate (2nd SSD) but I don't really want to dowload the game again. Can I just create some kind of shortcut in Antergos' Playonlinux to Ubuntu's installation?
    You can just copy the WoW folder over the new installation. Just tell PlayOnLinux to make a wineprefix and copy and paste it there, given you can still read the other drive.
    Here's the location where PlayOnLinux puts installations, just change the username to your login user name.
    /home/username/.PlayOnLinux/wineprefix

    Then have PlayOnLinux scan that directory for executables and make a shortcut for wow.

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    What happened to SteamOS? I've been checking some news on net. Most of them are a bit old but mentioning it's dead. SteamOS could be sparkle of Linux gaming, could make it mainstream. Would be a shame if it's indeed dead. I would abandon Windows for good if a unix-based operating system offered similar experience.

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    I think it just didn't make sense because you can essentially do the same with another distro that can also do more than only play games. SteamOS is a nice thing for HTPCs that stay at the living room and scenarios like this.

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    Most of Linux distros are buggy and unpolished in terms of desktop experience because there isn't a commercial concern. Redhat, OpenSSL, Apache, MySQL and many other tools used for commercial cause must be the primary evidence that once there is a commercial concern in open-source scene, the things polish and start to work like a charm quite fast.

    I really want SteamOS and Vulkan to succeed. They will be best thing happened to Linux gaming.
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    Steam Linux has declined but Linux overall has increased. The problem is the lack of games, and without new games being released on both Windows and Linux, people will stick with Windows. My Windows machine is still my primarily gaming platform, and looks to stay that way for some time. This is a problem that won't go away without some serious effort from Valve. Either Valve pushes developers harder for Linux ports of their games, or Valve makes a compatibility layer like Wine. For example, you could install a Windows only game on Linux but it would give you warnings that it isn't supported and any damage this does to you save files isn't Valve's responsibility. And every time someone plays the game on Linux, the developers is alerted that these many people are playing it on Linux. That way developers could be encouraged to port their games over.

    Valve needs to do something quick, cause signs show Microsoft might plan to charge for a subscription.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    Valve needs to do something quick, cause signs show Microsoft might plan to charge for a subscription.
    The day Microsoft decides to charge a sub is the day ill pirate me a copy of the current windows or go 100% linux and say fuck it even if I lose out on playing some games.

    To be clear I mean for there OS not the stupid ass store they got.
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    I am glad I have consoles (PS3/4, obviously) as my back up when it comes to gaming. I will protest Microsoft if they try to mess with Valve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    The day Microsoft decides to charge a sub is the day ill pirate me a copy of the current windows or go 100% linux and say fuck it even if I lose out on playing some games.

    To be clear I mean for there OS not the stupid ass store they got.
    That file does not exist on my Windows 10 installation though.

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    I have a hard time believing that MS would actually charge with a subscription format on Windows... That's probably just something you have when you buy your Windows license and can keep upgrading it to the newer versions afterwards.

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    microsoft already stated that that sub thing was a feature for their "beta" series of win 10 for companies running a lot of licences, nothing to do with your regular home version.

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