[Spoilers]The Aspects

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*Enters the topic*

Somebody called for an Aspect?

[Florena]

He would have came through nothing had Medivh never opened the Dark Portal in the first place, Malygos may have prevented future catastrophe. However, the events that lead to the alteration of his timeline and changed his destiny were not solely the fault of mortals. A bronze dragon was involved. I'm only disagreeing with you that Malygos was insane; because he was certainly arrogant and narrow-minde in his viewpoint that magic in the hands of all mortals is inherently dangerous, and that his kind are above scrutiny. He never stopped to consider that while mortals could well doom Azeroth, they might also save it.

Medivh was only possessed though because of his mother's hubris in underestimating Sargeras, and only battled Sargeras because of her role as the Guardian of Tirisfal, a position that exists because humans were reckless with magic and attracted demons, and were taught magic by elves, another mortal race, to help crush the Amani. =P So it's all the fault of reckless elves teaching reckless humans magic!

[purebalance]

Malygos did nothing while he was insane. He was just brooding and super depressed in his isolation. He regained his sanity prior to starting the Nexus War.

That's debatable as people consider having such an extreme view to be insane. He wasn't ranting raving mad insane, but take all the magic and punish people insane. So it really just depends on what you consider insane or not. At best he was an extremist.

[MrSaggins]

That's debatable as people consider having such an extreme view to be insane. He wasn't ranting raving mad insane, but take all the magic and punish people insane. So it really just depends on what you consider insane or not. At best he was an extremist.

Right. An aloof, detached dragon wouldn't concern themself with mortal politics or how we fight amongst each other. Malygos would see no difference between Azshara and Etrigg, except in the degrees of magic they wield and the danger they present.

The Spellweaver's outlook sadly reminds me of a prevelant viewpoint among my peers who draw no distinction between Salafist-Takfiri extremists, and moderate Sunnis. They say killing everyone who follows Islam a practical solution because they're speaking from a place of fear rather than rationality; but not insanity. The lesson here is to take time to learn the nuances of a people before setting out to fight them all.

[Kelthos]

On the topic of Ysera, I do believe she shows up in spirit form to help on the Cenarius fight during the Emerald Nightmare raid so she might not be permanently gone, persay. But her physical form at least is corrupted and we kill her in Val'sharah, yes.

[steelballfc]

On the topic of Ysera, I do believe she shows up in spirit form to help on the Cenarius fight during the Emerald Nightmare raid so she might not be permanently gone, persay. But her physical form at least is corrupted and we kill her in Val'sharah, yes.

you made me think
are we truly believe she would die
i mean we thought cenarius is dead in WC3
but he was hiding in Emerald dream

[Khaza-R]

Aspects have been really underwhelming. They're really nothing more than loot pinatas in WoW.

Each one of their stories has been anti-climatic.

[Daralii]

On the topic of Ysera, I do believe she shows up in spirit form to help on the Cenarius fight during the Emerald Nightmare raid so she might not be permanently gone, persay. But her physical form at least is corrupted and we kill her in Val'sharah, yes.

Anyone with a strong enough connection to the Dream seems to be able to regenerate, like demons with the Nether.

[Venziir]

chronicles very bluntly down plays their empowerment to what it was in the past. Powerful, yes: just not god level empowerment.

A Demi-God is not the same as a God.

[death604]

They are/were empowered by Titan Watchers. Chronicle Vol. 1.

stop blurting out nonsense, i'm curious how low your reading comprehension is.

it was written in the chronicles that the aspects felt powerful pressence that is greater than the likes of tyr, and tyr is one of the titanic watchers, hence the pressence weren't from the watchers/keepers.

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Aspects have been really underwhelming. They're really nothing more than loot pinatas in WoW.

Each one of their stories has been anti-climatic.

underwhelming? curious about your definition of underwhelming.

pre-aspect kalec was able to hold down KJ, weakened malygos was able to tank a direct hit from DS, enraged Ysera after malorne died was able to make a BL horde retreat (even the combined power of the ancients at most was only able to hold them off), aspects after getting their powers back was able to whip deathwing's ass, and made him run tails between his leg all the way to deepholme.

[Polybius]

*Enters the topic*

Somebody called for an Aspect?

We're going to raid you too, and take your loots, eventually.

[Enthralled]

Aspects have been really underwhelming. They're really nothing more than loot pinatas in WoW.

Each one of their stories has been anti-climatic.

Hmmm.

I give Richard Knaack a lot of shit, but that is mostly for his terrible writing on a technical level. He has come up with some decent stories in the past, especially concerning these dragons. However, this is one of those cases where in order to get those stories, you had to go to out-of-game sources pretty much entirely, which as we know became a big complaint among the players as the years went by. So your comment has a lot of merit. In game, yes, really interesting characters such as Malygos were little more than "OMG big blue dragon goes batshit for whatever reasons; we kill for for phat purpz".

And that is a shame.

[Deleted]

we're going to raid you too, and take your loots, eventually.

AGAIN?!

/10char
/caps

[Enthralled]

AGAIN?!

/10char
/caps

And again. And again. And again...

https://greyshades.wordpress.com/201...r-to-blizzard/

[Al Gorefiend]

Never liked the Aspects, they always struck me as cheesy creations of Knaak. They just aren't super interesting to me. I liked my dragons when they were enemies of mortals, not our greatest ally yadda yadda.

[Deleted]

And again. And again. And again...

https://greyshades.wordpress.com/201...r-to-blizzard/

Goddamn!

[Sammonoske]

You'd think they would be a little more careful when going into the Emerald Dream. Every single person that has gone in has been in some sort of serious trouble. Cenarius, Malfurion, now Ysera...

[Lupinemancer]

I think they failed when they actually lost most of there power in Cata

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agree
it's funny I was just reading tide of darkness for the first time
and the red dragons was easily defeated by single orc clan

That single Orc Clan wielded the Demon Soul and powerful Artifact which allowed them to control Dragons, had it not been for that, the Red Dragons would have a great Orcs snack that day.

[Deleted]

You'd think they would be a little more careful when going into the Emerald Dream. Every single person that has gone in has been in some sort of serious trouble. Cenarius, Malfurion, now Ysera...

Real talk: I think that in the case of the dragons, or the Aspects in particular, they are arrogant enough to not consider that.

[Florena]

Real talk: I think that in the case of the dragons, or the Aspects in particular, they are arrogant enough to not consider that.

To be fair, there weren't any problems with it for thousands of years until Vanilla, and then it was apparently contained in the Malfurion book, only to resurface in Legion.