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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Subjective I know, but my guess would be he would still be a Republican. His views back then on how equal the African Americans where, would not be close to ether party. He felt they were inferior to white people, but still deserved to be free. It would take a lot of decades later before they would be treated as equals by law. I also feel a lot of the older generation of presidents would be shocked at how liberal our society has become. In some ways, favorable, many other ways, not favorable.
    I feel the same. He was a progressive, but only in comparison to his time; people seem to be only comfortable with so much change in their lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I feel the same. He was a progressive, but only in comparison to his time; people seem to be only comfortable with so much change in their lifetime.
    Especially now considering the rate of progress our society has been working on. People are experiencing culture shock even during their lifetimes.

    Off Topic but talking about culture shock It's always funny watching 70+ year old people try to use the computer but considering back then the height of technology when they were teens was a black and white tv with like 4 channels. I wonder what new technology we will see in the next 40 years that we will have trouble with and our grandchildren will mock us for
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by akris15 View Post
    Especially now considering the rate of progress our society has been working on. People are experiencing culture shock even during their lifetimes.
    That's been happening for a long, long time.

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    It's what happens when the news are focused on Trump and Hillary. Obama has not really done anything this year to warrant the bump in popularity. If for the duration of his presidency he wasn't called out for being a Muslim terrorist, belonging to an anti-white church, that was born in Kenya, conspiring on his education while being stoned... His popularity would most likely be higher through out the last 7 years...

    In 7 years, the guy went from being the leftist left of the left, to someone calling him republican on the first page. Imagine if that was the case from the start. Instead of obstruction of a far left president, republicans argued him as one of their own. No promise to block everything... No 'you lied!'... No government shut down... No death panels...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    It's what happens when the news are focused on Trump and Hillary. Obama has not really done anything this year to warrant the bump in popularity. If for the duration of his presidency he wasn't called out for being a Muslim terrorist, belonging to an anti-white church, that was born in Kenya, conspiring on his education while being stoned... His popularity would most likely be higher through out the last 7 years...

    In 7 years, the guy went from being the leftist left of the left, to someone calling him republican on the first page. Imagine if that was the case from the start. Instead of obstruction of a far left president, republicans argued him as one of their own. No promise to block everything... No 'you lied!'... No government shut down... No death panels...
    Meh, cuba, vietnam, philippines, south china sea in general. It's a lot harder to be critical of someone who turns two relative enemies into relative allies and gets us a base back in the philippines. But ya, not being the sole topic of hatred for the right helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Meh, cuba, vietnam, philippines, south china sea in general. It's a lot harder to be critical of someone who turns two relative enemies into relative allies and gets us a base back in the philippines. But ya, not being the sole topic of hatred for the right helps.
    I thought he was largely condemned for those, but this forum might skew my perception.
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  7. #87
    Margin of error is ±3 percentage points.
    Nothing to see here. Essentially all results equate to the same. Even more so considering almost ALL approval before for last couple years has been lower, it's safe to assume it's error is -3 %.

    Full quote for those who want to give their own opinion on how they do their statistical analysis.

    Gallup tracks daily the percentage of Americans who approve or disapprove of the job Barack Obama is doing as president. Daily results are based on telephone interviews with approximately 1,500 national adults; Margin of error is ±3 percentage points.
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    If I had the cash to pay a DDoSer, I would in a heartbeat. Especially with the way the anti-legacy crowd has been attacked by the pro-legacy crowd day in and day out.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Wonder if it has anything to do with Hillary and Trump. If you say Obama should be allowed to run for a third term these days, people either agree or remain silent, not too long ago they would strongly disagree.



    When the ball dropped in Times Square on Jan. 1 of this year, more than half of the country disapproved of the job that President Obama was doing, according to Gallup. That boded poorly for the Democrats over the course of the year; presidential approval correlates to both how his party fares in the presidential race (even if he's not on the ticket) but also to the results of Senate races. An unpopular Obama suggested a less popular whoever-was-about-to-win-the-Democratic-nomination.

    But over the course of the year, Obama's approval numbers changed -- quickly, and a lot. In Gallup's most recent weekly average, Obama is at 51-45 -- the exact opposite of where he was on Jan. 1 and a 12-point swing since then. He's been at 50 percent or higher in every week since March 1, save one.

    We looked at this shortly after Obama first hit the 50 percent mark, noting that his approval had been climbing pretty steadily for a few months. At that point, we speculated that it was probably linked to the campaign; after all, the last time he was above 50 percent, he'd been propelled there by his own reelection.

    Looking at quarterly averages of Obama's approval, you can see how stark the improvement has been by party. Democrats have slowly looked at Obama more favorably since the beginning of 2015, but independents have begun to look at Obama much more favorably. After a sharp slide following his reelection, independents turned their opinions of Obama around at the beginning of 2014. Over the past year, that's escalated. And since ratings from Democrats and Republicans are more stable, that shift by independents moves the needle a lot.

    His approval rating has NOT soared. Nobody I know likes him. The only ones that still like him are ill informed minority's and hard core left wing femnazi's. (turns out that left wing males can be femnazi's too since they gave up their mancard and all just to be one)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xires View Post
    His approval rating has NOT soared. Nobody I know likes him. The only ones that still like him are ill informed minority's and hard core left wing femnazi's. (turns out that left wing males can be femnazi's too since they gave up their mancard and all just to be one)
    You didn't finish your thought though... Minority's and femnazi's what? I'm on the edge of the toilet wondering what they poses that still likes Obama.
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  10. #90
    I still dislike him 8 years later, can't wait for him to be out of office

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    If the aca had never happened maybe I would understand but with the middle class still shrinking it doesn't make much sense besides the current candidates pushing up his numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    And the Republicans of today are not the Republicans of 1865. I know you are Australian and don't probably know this but something called the Southern Strategy happened where the parties effectively SWITCHED. The Republicans at the time were the Liberals and the Conservatives were the Democrats. When the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed by Lyndon B. Johnson, is basically when the parties effectively switched. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy If you don't understand why, maybe you should google it instead of remaining in ignorance.
    Please stop posting bullshit and trying to change history

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xires View Post
    His approval rating has NOT soared. Nobody I know likes him. The only ones that still like him are ill informed minority's and hard core left wing femnazi's. (turns out that left wing males can be femnazi's too since they gave up their mancard and all just to be one)
    Oh how cute. Yet another person who cast aspersions on males who don't share his political world view as being somehow "unmanly". Seriously what happens to folks like this that cause them to spew such nonsense?
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

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    Quote Originally Posted by damajin View Post
    He's on his farewell tour, doing softball duties and the political insiders are turning their attention to the transition of power. Pretty hard to not have good approval ratings when you're doing the Presidential equivalent of ice cream socials.
    So, like G.W. Bush....oh wait, he ended with the worse approval rating in history. Darn. =P

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post
    John F Kennedy put Men into Space.

    Barack Obama put Men into Womens Toilets.
    Absolute ignorance and fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Please stop posting bullshit and trying to change history
    It isn't bullshit, segregationists and racists switched parties because of their fear of the CRA and desegregation, interracial marriage.
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xires View Post
    His approval rating has NOT soared. Nobody I know likes him. The only ones that still like him are ill informed minority's and hard core left wing femnazi's. (turns out that left wing males can be femnazi's too since they gave up their mancard and all just to be one)
    So because nobody you know likes him, that means that his national rating hasn't changed. Got it. Also...."ill informed minorities (I'll fix your terrible grammar) and hard core left wing feminazis" are not his audience. That's just your label because you don't understand that some people want different things. You also forgot to insult homosexuals in your post. Your friends would be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Subjective I know, but my guess would be he would still be a Republican. His views back then on how equal the African Americans where, would not be close to ether party. He felt they were inferior to white people, but still deserved to be free. It would take a lot of decades later before they would be treated as equals by law. I also feel a lot of the older generation of presidents would be shocked at how liberal our society has become. In some ways, favorable, many other ways, not favorable.
    If he was still alive today, he would be forever regretful of not executing all the confederate senior officials and governors. He would of been re-elected to several terms, and with his guidance during a full 50-100 reconstruction, the south would be radically different than what it is today.
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    It isn't bullshit, segregationists and racists switched parties because of their fear of the CRA and desegregation, interracial marriage.
    Democrat party is full of segregationists and racist

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Please stop posting bullshit and trying to change history
    Errr what? Are you actually trying to say that the southern strategy never happened despite the mountains of evidence for its existence, including statements from multiple senior establishment republicans that that was indeed what they were doing?

    Please, you must be daft if you think if you think anyone will believe you.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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