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How.... do you separate criminals from non criminals if they have yet to break the law in sweden?

That's up for the people who just accepts imported crime to solve. Until that's solved, I will always be against immigration that leads to imported crime.

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That's up for the people who just accepts imported crime to solve. Until that's solved, I will always be against immigration that leads to imported crime.

"imported crime" is just "imported people" you know that huh? Basically what you just said is you're against an increase in population.

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"imported crime" is just "imported people" you know that huh? Basically what you just said is you're against an increase in population.

Nope, east asians are underrepresented in crime, middle easterners and africans are overrepresented as fuck. I'll happily take the east asians.

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Nope, east asians are underrepresented in crime, middle easterners and africans are overrepresented as fuck. I'll happily take the east asians.

You'd still take more crime.
By the way you dont have the luxury of choosing. Sowwie.

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You'd still take more crime.
By the way you dont have the luxury of choosing. Sowwie.

No, taking east asians means less crime than if you take africans or middle easterners, they're underrepresented in crime, which means they commit less crimes than Swedes. Not more crime. Feels like crime rates are hard for you to understand.

And yeah, we could have the "luxury of choosing"(Calling a proper immigration policy luxury is retarded.) if the politicians weren't so retarded.

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No, taking east asians means less crime than if you take africans or middle easterners, they're underrepresented in crime, which means they commit less crimes than Swedes. Not more crime. Feels like crime rates are hard for you to understand.

And yeah, we could have the luxury of choosing if the politicians weren't so retarded.

Of course. Like in Canada huh?

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Of course. Like in Canada huh?

Not sure what Canada has to do with that.

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Not sure what Canada has to do with that.

You can't pick and choose mooneye. You're not 2 oceans away so buckle up.

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You can't pick and choose mooneye. You're not 2 oceans away so buckle up.

Yeah, we can pick and choose. Just because someone wants to move here it doesn't mean they get to. It's called actually having an immigration policy.

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Yeah, we can pick and choose. Just because someone wants to move here it doesn't mean they get to. It's called actually having an immigration policy.

Wasn't there a study that showed that crimes increased as if the population increased normally? I could be wrong though.

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Wasn't there a study that showed that crimes increased as if the population increased normally? I could be wrong though.

No, there's no such study. There's been no studies on crime and immigrants since 2005 here, people from middle east and africa had like 20-25% crime rate vs like 5% for Swedes, north africans had an overrepresentation of like 2300% or something in rape, meaning if the populations had been at equal levels you'd have 23 rapists from north africa for every one Swede who rapes, that's a huge overrepresentation.

The government refused to order BRÅ to conduct a new study since it was suggested by the Sweden Democrats. It would've shut people up if they had conducted a study and it was found to be a low crime rate, but instead they refuse to order them to conduct a new study. I wonder why. Probably because it's not a low crime rate.

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Wasn't there a study that showed that crimes increased as if the population increased normally? I could be wrong though.

The long time trend is that the crime per capita slowly goes down, but the media have increased focus on serious crimes, in Sweden. Some crime have skyrocket like driving under influence of narcotic drugs becuse earlier the police only did checked if you were drunk.

Now the big question peopel argues about, would crime per capita go down more if we did have a more restrictive refugee policy.

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In Sweden if Swedes commit a crime, that's not a crime that could've been prevented by not letting them in. When immigrant commits a crime, that's a crime that COULD have been prevented if you didn't let them in. So, come up with some way to separate criminals from non-criminals among immigrants before you try to chastise people who don't want to import crime.

How about we just be civilized and keep the whole innocent till proven guilty? Or should we say "Sorry you were born 1 inch over a line on the map but until you can convince us you're purer than poor we have to treat you like you're scum and deny you access."

Sorry not going to work that way.

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They are also looking through the trend of crimes such as rape and domestic assault.

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No we do care. It's that we don't immediately jump on the paint everyone with the same brush argument that you guys seem to pull. 1 Muslim does domething blame the entire lot. One westerner does something "Oh it's just an individual." THAT'S what we argue against.

Instead of brushing everyone be surgical. If 100 people are guilty go find the guilty 100 and leave the innocent alone. Like you know police work le gasp, is it that hard?

You dont care well enough and your trust in police who ultimately answers to bleeding heart leaders is misguided.

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How about we just be civilized and keep the whole innocent till proven guilty? Or should we say "Sorry you were born 1 inch over a line on the map but until you can convince us you're purer than poor we have to treat you like you're scum and deny you access."

Sorry not going to work that way.

How about actually having a proper immigration policy that means immigration is beneficial to the country and not detrimental?

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The long time trend is that the crime per capita slowly goes down, but the media have increased focus on serious crimes, in Sweden. Some crime have skyrocket like driving under influence of narcotic drugs becuse earlier the police only did checked if you were drunk.

Now the big question peopel argues about, would crime per capita go down more if we did have a more restrictive refugee policy.

This is kind of misleading though. Gone down with what groups? Swedes? If it goes down with Swedes but rises among immigrants or stays at what it was before with those groups, then it will still go down overall, since Swedes make up the largest group in Sweden still.

Like, I've checked things up regarding the crime stuff. We have more violent crime today than we did in the past, more people are not reporting being subjected to violence, according to hospital surveys, and at the same time we have more violence reported in total numbers than 30-40 years ago, despite the reporting rate going down. That means violent crime is up, a lot.

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You dont care well enough and your trust in police who ultimately answers to bleeding heart leaders is misguided.

"trust in police is misguided"

Who should we trust? Vigilantes? Borderline nutsos? Scaremongering propaganda?

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This is kind of misleading though. Gone down with what groups? Swedes? If it goes down with Swedes but rises among immigrants or stays at what it was before with those groups, then it will still go down overall, since Swedes make up the largest group in Sweden still.

Immigration is not detrimental to society Mooneye. Not in the slightest. You wont find ANY paper that states that.

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Immigration is not detrimental to society Mooneye. Not in the slightest. You wont find ANY paper that states that.

I guess the national economists in Sweden are just plain out wrong. You clearly know better than people like Assar Lindbeck: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assar_Lindbeck, Jan tullberg, Tino Sanandaji(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tino_Sanandaji), right?

It's not hard to find papers that brings up the negative consequences of immigration, you know that, right?

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It's not hard to find papers that brings up the negative consequences of immigration,

... and compare them to the benefit that they bring and end up with the statement that immigration is not detrimental to society. If anyone is telling you any different they're wrong or having an agenda. Simply put.

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... and compare them to the benefit that they bring and end up with the statement that immigration is not detrimental to society. If anyone is telling you any different they're wrong or having an agenda. Simply put.

What benefits? The refugees don't work in a high enough rate to be economically beneficial, after 8 years in Sweden only about 1/3 of them have jobs, including state-subsidized jobs. They are more criminal than Swedes, too. Some groups, like the Somali, are at like 20% employment rate. How is that beneficial?