Do you agree with Trump's newly released energy plan ?

[Orlong]

Hell yeah!!!! Its about time we get a president that will do what will makes the lives of our citizens better right now instead of worrying what MIGHT happen in 500 years. And until China and India start cleaning up neither should we. President Trump will be our savior! We might even be able to buy real light bulbs and microbeads again!!

[Pangean]

Hell yeah!!!! Its about time we get a president that will do what will makes the lives of our citizens better right now instead of worrying what MIGHT happen in 500 years. And until China and India start cleaning up neither should we. President Trump will be our savior! We might even be able to buy real light bulbs and microbeads again!!

Lol the national tragedy of the absence of microbeads is over thanks to Orlong's savior.

[Orlong]

Image taken from : http://www.stateoftheair.org/2014/as...2014-Full.pdfc

PD: I'm practicing citing sources, so if the format is wrong please correct me (footnotes)(MLA )

IF your chart had lines for quality of life, and quality of green products compared to the previous non-green versions, they would drop right off the chart

[Laerrus]

He wants to drill more oil and gas, despite the usa being the biggest producer of oil in the world surpassing Saudi Arabia (1)

This alone would be VERY bad for us down in Southeast Texas. When the price of oil plummeted due to excess supply, it really hurt our local economy with field, plant and lab workers being laid off. We need the price of oil to go up, not down and the best way to do that would be to REDUCE the supply. If you really care for our state, no Texan should be voting for this idiot.

[Orlong]

Does a president even have a say in how much oil and gas is being drilled? Or are we talking about some law that puts a restriction on it that he wants to remove or change?

Also coal? I thought most of us went away from coal, not purely because of politics, but more so that it simply wasn't efficient enough or worth the cost?

The EPA under Obama has put such asinine restrictions on coal producers that they cannot continue to profit which is why Hillary got booed off the stage in West Virginia (because she wants to continue the policies) and lost the state with Bernie taking around 82% of the vote

[Kalador]

LOL... oil price are super low, time to produce even more so it's even lower, let's be stupid and sell oil for a loss.

The fact that he bring coal is even funnier, let's bring back that ineficent energy back from the grave. Also the lost of job in coal mining is mostly because mining is way more efficient now than it was before as USA is still producing tremendous amount of coal.

Solar and wind will never be enough to fuel america energy demende, even more so with the energy conversion of the car industry. USA should go for nuclear energy, the only form of energy that can meet the demand.

[Gheld]

Well after reading the actual transcript I can safely say that the OP's "TLDR" of it is inaccurate and biased and as such I'm sure Endus is going to come along and close this thread immediately

I don't entirely disagree with what he ACTUALLY said. It's obviously all talking points because *shock gasp* it's not even the election campaign yet. All the candidates have right now is talking points. They aren't going to read out the legislative framework on the campaign trail, they never do.

I mean, let's be realistic here... To some extent it doesn't matter whether you get the oil from Saudi Arabia or at home. Oil needs aren't magically going to vanish because the US has decided to kibosh all local fossil fuel related activities. It's just going to be a bigger paycheque for OPEC to fund terrorist activities against the US with; and with less scrutiny over environmental impact. (yes, Donald Trump actually brought the point of overseas oil production having less environmental oversight up as a talking point).

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USA should go for nuclear energy, the only form of energy that can meet the demand.

In his actual speech (not the OP's biased version) he mentions Nuclear.

[Orlong]

LOL... oil price are super low, time to produce even more so it's even lower, let's be stupid and sell oil for a loss.

The fact that he bring coal is even funnier, let's bring back that ineficent energy back from the grave. Also the lost of job in coal mining is mostly because mining is way more efficient now than it was before as USA is still producing tremendous amount of coal.

Solar and wind will never be enough to fuel america energy demende, even more so with the energy conversion of the car industry. USA should go for nuclear energy, the only form of energy that can meet the demand.

I say keep producing it until we get back down to 99 cent gas again. We need cheap fuel so people can have more money to spend from their paychecks

[jdbond592]

Bush had better plan. Invade Iraq and steal their oil, for our companies!

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I say keep producing it until we get back down to 99 cent gas again. We need cheap fuel so people can have more money to spend from their paychecks

Except "we" have no control over oil. "We" don't drill for oil and "we"certainly don't own it. It is amazing how socialist America becomes when it comes to oil. We only care for "capitalism" when we are trying to insult someone..

[Orlong]

Bush had better plan. Invade Iraq and steal their oil, for our companies!

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Except "we" have no control over oil. "We" don't drill for oil and "we"certainly don't own it. It is amazing how socialist America becomes when it comes to oil. We only care for "capitalism" when we are trying to insult someone..

But we do have control over how friendly we make it for companies to WANT to drill. Obama has put so many place off limits for drilling its absolutely ludicrous

[apples]

Here I thought Trump might've actually been qualified as an economist and market leader, if nothing else, but now even that notion flies out of the window.

if trumps career has proven anything, its that he has no idea how economies and markets work

[Kalador]

In his actual speech (not the OP's biased version) he mentions Nuclear.

yeah i've read it, if you're talking about:

'' We will get the bureaucracy out of the way of innovation, so we can pursue all forms of energy. This includes renewable energies and the technologies of the future. It includes nuclear, wind and solar energy – but not to the exclusion of other energy. The government should not pick winners and losers. Instead, it should remove obstacles to exploration. Any market has ups and downs, but lifting these draconian barriers will ensure that we are no longer at the mercy of global markets. ''

He's just saying politics should not influence, witch I don't agree with, nuclear energy is the only viable energy source for USA it sould be helped by the gov. Geothermal and mass hydroenergy witch are only alternative as energy source that can meet the demand are not available enough in the US.

I might have missed something as the transcrip is pretty shity.

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I say keep producing it until we get back down to 99 cent gas again. We need cheap fuel so people can have more money to spend from their paychecks

To produce oil that cheap all company would have to do it at a loss, what you're saying is that you want the gov. to give money to the oil company to drill at a loss for cheaper oil for your car...

the time of cheap conventional oil are done, oil is expensive to produce, shale oil is about 60$ per bbl.

[jdbond592]

But we do have control over how friendly we make it for companies to WANT to drill. Obama has put so many place off limits for drilling its absolutely ludicrous

Did you read this....on? You do understand that right now we have more oil than SA, right? We were exporting our oil to other nations. Someone needs to put facts on table. Right now production is shut down in most states due to low prices. US oil takes lot of money to extract. It simply isn't feasible to extract US oil and sell it for a buck or buck fifty. Economics 101-THIS IS NOT CHARITY! Just because an average American feels entitled to gas doesn't mean everyone shares that opinion. Why would they drill and flood the market with more supply than demand if they don't have to? Right now only SA and few other countries are making money because their oil is just cheap..

[Deleted]

Did you read this....on? You do understand that right now we have more oil than SA, right? We were exporting our oil to other nations. Someone needs to put facts on table. Right now production is shut down in most states due to low prices. US oil takes lot of money to extract. It simply isn't feasible to extract US oil and sell it for a buck or buck fifty. Economics 101-THIS IS NOT CHARITY! Just because an average American feels entitled to gas doesn't mean everyone shares that opinion. Why would they drill and flood the market with more supply than demand if they don't have to? Right now only SA and few other countries are making money because their oil is just cheap..

Put high tariffs on imported oil. Problem solved.

[Orlong]

To produce oil that cheap all company would have to do it at a loss, what you're saying is that you want the gov. to give money to the oil company to drill at a loss for cheaper oil for your car...

the time of cheap conventional oil are done, oil is expensive to produce, shale oil is about 60$ per bbl.

I payed 75 cents per gallon in 1991. We can easily get back to that if we strip away all the costly regulations imposed on the industry. We also need to make it much easier to build new refineries. We havent built a new one since the 70s because of regulations. Also if we opened up the Atlantic and Pacific for drilling (Obama closed them both) It wouldnt be expensive to drill

[Kalador]

Put high tariffs on imported oil. Problem solved.

I fail to see how does that solve the fact that usa oil is expensive to Produce. If you stop importing it's just going to rise oil price in USA only, making USA less competitive with other country in many other market.

Also it would be impossible to do.

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I payed 75 cents per gallon in 1991. We can easily get back to that if we strip away all the costly regulations imposed on the industry. We also need to make it much easier to build new refineries. We havent built a new one since the 70s because of regulations. Also if we opened up the Atlantic and Pacific for drilling (Obama closed them both) It wouldnt be expensive to drill

Yeah deep water drilling is REALLY expensive, deep water exploration is probably the most expensive exploration. regualtion or not you're probably never going to see 1990 oil price again, oil is more expensive to produce not because regulation, because easy to drill oil is almost extinct, don't get me wrong, there is still a shit tone of oil to be drill but it's expensive to find and drill.

[Thepersona]

Put high tariffs on imported oil. Problem solved.

that is not going to solve any problem. you know anything about economics? with high tariffs you cut the supply, making oil prices rise, and making everything that depends on oil more expensive.

[Ripster42]

Is that really a significant enough demographic to bring back fucking coal of all things?

Apparently. He'll also have to subsidize it, so yay for government interference in the market hypocrisy.

[Aggrophobic]

Just when you think Trump can't get any more ridiculous.
It's mind boggling that anyone with at least average intelligence would vote for this person.

[Thepersona]

Just when you think Trump can't get any more ridiculous.
It's mind boggling that anyone with at least average intelligence would vote for this person.

you got the point. he's catering to the absolute lowest, people who dont have average inteligence