Donald Trump Tells Drought-stricken California: ‘There Is No Drought’

[Gheld]

If I was President I would make sure there was enough draught for everyone.

[enragedgorilla]

Lol you are applauding a man who is claiming there is no drought in a state that has been under a drought for multiple years. Not surprised.

I think the point being made is ...there would not be an issue with water IF farmers/environmentalist/politicians knew wtf to do with the existing water supply (save/let it run off/redirect it etc) but ...unfortunately ...there is no middle ground,money is HUGELY involved (Farmers and politicians ...and I would figure more than a few of the environmentalists ) no side is willing to give or compromise so...you end up with dumb on top of dumb with a side of political speeches and ...dumb.

CA has needed to rework it's water laws,rework how water is routed and a few other water related issues ...for decades, however it only becomes a "real issue" when we get less rain than normal....then everyone makes noise again.

I live in CA by the way,a child of the 70's I recall "droughts" every decade ..or more, water conservation should be a way of life for ...everyone, sadly with the states population it doesn't pan out that way in a lot of places.

[Deleted]

Also Agribusinesses and farmers insist on these water intensive crops, we always have "record nut harvests," even though almonds consume so much water and Alfalfa ect.

Those farmers are subsidized by the state - Then there are subsidizes for the people to use less water.
When all could be solved by slashing the subsidies to zero.

[Skayth]

So if I don't believe water is wet, i'm right?

In your mind, you are right. To me, you are a loon.

technically, water isnt wet. Wetness is Humanity coming into contact with water, and is description of out experiences with it.

[Pangean]

Re read my post again, very slowly this time.

"Good on him." mean something different in Australia than here? Or are you going to claim his solution to "open" the water is a series of drought handling measures? A drought he says doesn't exist. LOL.

[Dsonsion]

Didn't realize SJWs vote Trump.

Oooooooh! What a comeback!
It reminds me of me and my brother being 8 and 4 years old and having one of our lovely "No, u!" discussions.

[Sky High]

"trust me!" "I got all the answers!" "I can make anything happen cuz I'm Trump, and that name should tell you I get shit done!". yadda yadda more talking out the bum from Trump.

[Theodarzna]

Those farmers are subsidized by the state - Then there are subsidizes for the people to use less water.
When all could be solved by slashing the subsidies to zero.

That is one factor, the other is that a lot of the piping and infrastructure of the canals is now half a century or more old and much of it leaks we lose a lot of water that way as well. Australia is the closest analog to California climate wise and rain pattern wise and many of their cities on the south end of Australia or in the drier climates have infinitely better water retention and water management systems then ANYTHING California has. We waste a fuck ton of our water just in our crumbling system of distribution.

But yeah the subsidies also are a shit show. I mean yes, the Nuts, Alfalfa and garlic crops big in some cases and provide some economic benefit, but its bleeding the state dry LITERALLY. Sure the Salinas' valley is excellent for farming but we are over stressing the States land for big ticket agriculture. Namely the Central Valley is being over developed with cities and suburbs that waste water AND poor irrigation methods as well as water intensive crops are making these droughts MUCH worse then they aught to be.

[Pangean]

I think the point being made is ...there would not be an issue with water IF farmers/environmentalist/politicians knew wtf to do with the existing water supply (save/let it run off/redirect it etc) but ...unfortunately ...there is no middle ground,money is HUGELY involved (Farmers and politicians ...and I would figure more than a few of the environmentalists ) no side is willing to give or compromise so...you end up with dumb on top of dumb with a side of political speeches and ...dumb.

CA has needed to rework it's water laws,rework how water is routed and a few other water related issues ...for decades, however it only becomes a "real issue" when we get less rain than normal....then everyone makes noise again.

I live in CA by the way,a child of the 70's I recall "droughts" every decade ..or more, water conservation should be a way of life for ...everyone, sadly with the states population it doesn't pan out that way in a lot of places.

That may be your point but it ain't Trumps. And regardless of what measures you are taking, you are taking them to deal with a drought. A drought Trump claims doesn't exist.

[Dsonsion]

Does it bring back memories of you molesting him nightly?

Certainly, he owes me that, as it helped him build character. I don't believe he would've liked that job in that Russian gay bar otherwise.

[Ayperos]

This guy is a hot mess, I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. Hillary has issues, but my goodness, compared to Trump she is a goddess.

[AwkwardSquirtle]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

[Reeve]

'If I win, believe me, we're going to start opening up the water'

This has got to be an Onion article, right?

[Independent voter]

In the US the fed declares large areas of land, and the government owns a lot of the land especially out in the West, as habitat. All it takes is one endangered species, a frog, a bird, a butterfly or whatever.

This will often mean that you can't use the water for farming, cause the endangered frog needs the water.

Restricting the use of resources that farmers have been using for decades causes a lot of resentment. I think that's what Trump is trying to tap into, yes for votes.

[Darsithis]

'If I win, believe me, we're going to start opening up the water'

This has got to be an Onion article, right?

Nope, there is actually a speech.

Trump is dangerous, I gotta say. He's dangerous for the future of our world. This isn't his first anti-environment stance in favor of business. I feel if he was elected we'd see a wasteland. Yes, I'm exaggerating but it is frightening.

[Breccia]

And Trump makes another factually false statement his followers will have to "interpret"

"He didn't say there was no drought! He said it was something something something"

Put it next to the 42% unemployment, the thousands of 9/11 celebrantrs, the homicide statistics, the direct federal funding of illegal immigrants through Phoenix, "all" the violent criminals Clinton wants to release from jail, the birther debate, and of course, don't forget the rapists in the growing pile of factually false things Trump has said.

Since 1981, CA has been on average an inch short of average rainfall every year. They've been short by 5 inches or more 6 of the last 10 years, and short by 6 or more inches the last four years.

Let's put that last number into perspective. California uses about 25 billion gallons of irrigation water per day, and have about 82,000 farms. Obviously that's not all the same size, but on average, that's about 300,000 gallons per day per farm. Conveniently enough, 6 inches of rain would cover one average farm for 365 days by falling on exactly one square mile. And California has about 164k square miles, conveniently enough, almost exactly double the number of farms.

The drought is a really serious problem. I'm sure there are other issues involved, but the plan old lack of water falling from the sky has got to be near the top of the list.

[Torgent]

He's the Jaden Smith of politics. He's famous and rich because of his daddy and he's as intelligent as a cucumber on LSD.

[Deleted]

Please don't take this as gloating, as a non-american, but Trump's Triumph might actually be a good thing in the long run. I'm, hoping 3-4 years of him as president will be enough to shock your population into change for the good.

And in NO WAY am i implying europe/uk is in anyway better than the US in this regard.

I am probably grasping at straws at this point however.

[alexw]

And my thoughts of voting for Trump to send a message to the establishment, pretty much gone.

Even if he does this and makes a species go extinct IT WONT END THE FUCKING DROUGHT BECAUSE THERE IS A FUCKING DROUGHT.

Sorry had to let that out.

This is why the Trumpist fantasies that he can capture a significant portion of Sanders voters are nothing but delusions. Those voters don't like Clinton but people just don't vote 100% against what they believe. Climate change, minimum wage, taxation, gun laws, immigration, supreme court nominees, the list goes on and on, and for all of them Trump stands 100% in opposition to what they want.

[Deleted]

maybe if he diverts his $20bn for his wall to interstate water pipelines.