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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    so there's no jack of all trades? I mean, I know how compositions work but think of it like this: Singed in LoL is a CC tank, so therefore for his flaws (outdated mobility), he could weasel into just about every composition based on that fact.
    Like I said, you want reinhardt if you want to tank, with dabbling into some winston from time to time. You can get away with those 2 while playing reinhardt 90% of the time.

    You pretty much NEED a reinhardt on payload maps and having just a walking massive shield that can CC things is simply too powerful not to have most of the time.
    ..and so he left, with terrible power in shaking hands.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg747 View Post
    If you find a team that knows you'll only play Tanks then yes, you can main Tanks.

    D. Va has uses but is super situational. She is ok up close but when she's out of her mech she can be killed really easily. She also can be shredded really quick due to her big crit hitbox. Winston and Reinhardt are the best tanks followed by Zarya and Roadhog and D. Va are considered more situational.
    I find D.Va to be a great harasser when attacking in payload maps. You can have several enemies chasing you in between their base and the payload while your team pushes.

  3. #23
    Well, thanks for the feedback I suppose. The appeal of playing who you like sort of just drained for me but I'll still keep an eye out.

  4. #24
    You can get really good at one character and be successful. However, you're gimping your team if you only play one character and wont switch depending on the enemy team comp/map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baconeggcheese View Post
    Like I said, you want reinhardt if you want to tank, with dabbling into some winston from time to time. You can get away with those 2 while playing reinhardt 90% of the time.

    You pretty much NEED a reinhardt on payload maps and having just a walking massive shield that can CC things is simply too powerful not to have most of the time.
    as endus said though, reinhardt loses a lot of his value is your team don't stack up around you, most of his value comes from the protection he gives to the team, if you have a team that just runs around roaming, roadhog or winston are a better choice tbh

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by peggleftw View Post
    as endus said though, reinhardt loses a lot of his value is your team don't stack up around you, most of his value comes from the protection he gives to the team, if you have a team that just runs around roaming, roadhog or winston are a better choice tbh
    The dudes a diamond league player, I assume he's not planning to be playing with potatoes for his entire overwatch career. I'm not giving him advice for playing in low level games, I'm telling him what works for competitive play.
    ..and so he left, with terrible power in shaking hands.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    Well, thanks for the feedback I suppose. The appeal of playing who you like sort of just drained for me but I'll still keep an eye out.
    Everyone has a favourite hero, the one they like the most or the one they play the best.

    That includes the rest of your party. Sticking to one forces them to be even more flexible, which probably means not playing their favourite hero as much. At some point you are going to be the one who has to switch so that someone else can have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baconeggcheese View Post
    The dudes a diamond league player, I assume he's not planning to be playing with potatoes for his entire overwatch career. I'm not giving him advice for playing in low level games, I'm telling him what works for competitive play.
    I'd really take any talk about "competitive play" at this stage with a whopping grain of salt. The game launched this week. The meta's going to shift and adjust over time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baconeggcheese View Post
    The dudes a diamond league player, I assume he's not planning to be playing with potatoes for his entire overwatch career. I'm not giving him advice for playing in low level games, I'm telling him what works for competitive play.
    oh sorry, i hadn't read the thread, just skipped to the end :P my bad!!

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Baconeggcheese View Post
    The dudes a diamond league player, I assume he's not planning to be playing with potatoes for his entire overwatch career. I'm not giving him advice for playing in low level games, I'm telling him what works for competitive play.
    certainly not, no. If I bought and played Overwatch I would aim for competitive ends as usual. I also played WoW a long time ago was a regular 2200+ and one-time Gladiator.

    But League of Legends undoubtedly influenced a lot of what I want in competitive games. I was just thinking of Heroes of the Storm where I hear this OTP thing is far, far, far more lenient but the Overwatch craze got to me.

    The greatest appeal of Overwatch to me, is the character design and quirks. There are some I just really adore and a lot I absolutely loathe. The Winston character is among the ones I dislike the most for how ugly and stupid he is, while I enjoy Reaper for how cool he is. TLDR: I can't play a hero or character I dislike looking or hearing at for very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    while I enjoy Reaper for how cool he is. TLDR: I can't play a hero or character I dislike looking or hearing at for very long.
    I'm pretty sure just about everyone thinks reaper is cool lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Overwatch isn't like a MOBA. You don't pick one hero and get great with them. People swap heroes to counter the other team's hero choices constantly, on the fly. That's part of the game's design, by intent.

    That doesn't mean you can't have a hero you prefer, but you absolutely need to be willing and ready to play what your team needs if that's not it.
    You are correct, and this it the biggest problem, or design flaw, with the game..
    You need to switch, making you a "Jack of all Trades, Master of None".

    I made it "all the way" to level 4 in Beta, and haven't played a single second, since release, precisely because of this..
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  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Skylarking View Post
    I'm pretty sure just about everyone thinks reaper is cool lol.
    Reaper is the edgelord of overwatch.

    Zarya is way cooler imho.

    on topic; considering the game is a lot about changing heroes to adapt against enemy team comps. I doubt there will be any OTP's. the best you can hope for is to get good with a character that has lesser real counters than others.
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  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    I'd really take any talk about "competitive play" at this stage with a whopping grain of salt. The game launched this week. The meta's going to shift and adjust over time.
    Tournaments with high level players have already happened, and its fairly evident playing. Unless significant balance or mechanics changes happen (which could) the meta's fairly established atm. It can change, but unless something significant changes mechanically / the addition of a new hero who hard counters or they completely gut reinhardt his importance won't change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsugunai View Post
    certainly not, no. If I bought and played Overwatch I would aim for competitive ends as usual. I also played WoW a long time ago was a regular 2200+ and one-time Gladiator.

    But League of Legends undoubtedly influenced a lot of what I want in competitive games. I was just thinking of Heroes of the Storm where I hear this OTP thing is far, far, far more lenient but the Overwatch craze got to me.

    The greatest appeal of Overwatch to me, is the character design and quirks. There are some I just really adore and a lot I absolutely loathe. The Winston character is among the ones I dislike the most for how ugly and stupid he is, while I enjoy Reaper for how cool he is. TLDR: I can't play a hero or character I dislike looking or hearing at for very long.
    I definitely get that, I pretty much played nothing but reaper in the beta weekends / open betas. But I've found myself branching out as time goes on, especially as I've been playing on 6 man teams. You get over it though, I don't particularly care for winston or reinhardt or tanking or healing in general but I find myself doing them a lot because the team needs it and no one ever wants to do it. And I still manage to find it a lot of fun despite my dislike for those roles because being a useful member of the team is gratifying beyond my dislike for those roles.
    ..and so he left, with terrible power in shaking hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fus Ro Yay View Post
    Reaper is the edgelord of overwatch.
    Honestly, I feel 76 is more of that. The constant "I need to constantly remind everyone around me that I'm older, more experienced and better than everyone else" thing is edgecity. Reaper is edgy but it's more "I'm killing people I'm still killing people death is happening now."

    Zarya is way cooler imho.
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    So the similarities between LoL and OW.
    Both games got ulti that you need to track, both your own team m8s but also your enemies.
    Diverse setup, get some melee heroes, some range heroes some tank and healer, even if LoL healer is not that big, then again long time ago I played LoL.
    Some heroes counter others.
    That would be like it.
    In OW hero swapping mid game a big deal to counter the enemy heroes. They got a Bastion? Pick Genji or Widowmaker or someone else that can deal with him.
    There are different type of game modes. Some were 1 team escort and other try to deffend.
    One were it is king of the hill type. One that is control and defend.
    Would say that it is more like TF2 than LoL.

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    I pretty much play nothing but Mercy at the moment, works rather well since most don't seem to be interested in supporting. I have no interest in any other hero with possible exception for Torbjörn.

  18. #38
    Promise last question...

    How about Mercy for a one trick champion? Now, I read what everything people said but you know why this just came to mind? Healers ALWAYS FIT INTO EVERYTHING in competitive games. I don't like to talk of it due to distaste for the champion nowadays but I admit I played Soraka (League's go-to and only real healer) to about Diamond IV last season. Another example is how I think of how invaluable the Medic is in TF2 and has the largest bearing in competitive play for that game, being in every team no question.

  19. #39
    You will be a hindrance to your team if you only play 1 hero, since each is suited for a particular situation, and you'll be put in several different ones as you play (attack vs defend, open areas vs small corridors, etc)

    But hey, play the way you want. If you just want to "main" one champion, go at it, but be prepared to be useless often as the game is balanced around swapping heroes as you go along.

    That being said, there are champions which can be used every time, like supports and the like... so, who knows.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    I find D.Va to be a great harasser when attacking in payload maps. You can have several enemies chasing you in between their base and the payload while your team pushes.
    She is but Winston is better at that role in my opinion. She's more fun to play though and she can get the job done pretty well.

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