Sanders tries to get Clinton 'aggressive attack surrogates' off key campaign committe

[TrumpIsPresident]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...ommittees.html

Bernie Sanders is attempting to wage a fight to the finish for the Democratic presidential nomination -- and to upend the party’s “rigged” system -- by trying to remove key convention officials.


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The Sanders campaign has called former Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank and Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy “aggressive attack surrogates” for Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton.

And it formally requested that Frank and Malloy be removed as co-chairmen, respectively, of the Rules and Platform committees at the Democratic National Convention.

The Democratic National Committee on Saturday rejected the request, saying Frank and Malloy were elected under party rules and that Sanders wasn't alleging any violations of that process.

Frank and Malloy have been “aggressive attack surrogates for the Clinton campaign,” Sanders campaign counsel Brad Deutsch wrote in a letter Friday to the party leaders. “Their criticisms of Sen. Sanders have gone beyond dispassionate ideological disagreement and have exposed a deeper professional, political and personal hostility toward the senator and his campaign.”

The committees are two of the three most-influential committees at the convention in July, helping shape the party’s agenda and message for the general election into November. The other committee is the credentials committee.

I wonder if anybody in the Sanders camp ever told Bernie that he was going to have to attack Hillary on her crooked and criminal ways right out of the gate if he ever wanted to stand a chance.

And now that he kinda is, half assed, I wonder is it too little too late for Bern?

I'm guessing he wasn't blind and overlooked the fact that Hillary and her Clinton Foundation "negotiated" the 2016 nomination for Hillary since way back in 2008 when she was told she had to sit down for Barack.

I'd wager instead that he had to play safe early on for fear of being devoured from within by Hillary's DNC surrogates and that he figured once he got some momentum he could lay into her.

I don't think Sanders is an idiot but I think his strategy has failed him.

He'll need to make a major hit against Hillary for her email crimes, her questionable advancement of her foundation during term as SoS, the possibly crooked delegate misrepresentation, or any of the other ways in which a candidate would logically fight their opponent.

But will he? ..or will it just be a series of little gripes like this one up to his succession speech?

[May90]

Looking at the number of delegates, I must say, the party's system does seem quite a bit rigged. Almost an equal number of "simple" delegates support each, but superdelegates almost unanimously support Hillary, which is the main reason she leads with such a huge advantage.

Should superdelegates even exist? Something is broken here.

[Dextroden]

Looking at the number of delegates, I must say, the party's system does seem quite a bit rigged. Almost an equal number of "simple" delegates support each, but superdelegates almost unanimously support Hillary, which is the main reason she leads with such a huge advantage.

Should superdelegates even exist? Something is broken here.

And just like everyone in the megathread and even old sandman Bernie, if they pick him, they will magically become not "broken" or "rigged".

I love watching a tantrum over a loss. (Not you. Bernie "Everyone is out to get me!" Sanders.)

[TrumpIsPresident]

I love watching a tantrum over a loss. (Not you. Bernie "Everyone is out to get me!" Sanders.)

Sander's paranoia would be justified as the DNC has been bought-and-paid-for by Hillary ever since 2008.

Its her "turn" to be President.

I've long since said its a shame how Sanders supporters are being robbed of their choice.

Its not just a matter of losing fair and square its one of never being afforded a fair chance to begin with.

[Dextroden]

Sander's paranoia would be justified as the DNC has been bought-and-paid-for by Hillary ever since 2008.

Its her "turn" to be President.

I've long since said its a shame how Sanders supporters are being robbed of their choice.

Its not just a matter of losing fair and square its one of never being afforded a fair chance to begin with.

I like how you can somehow guarantee an election victory for a person from 8 years ago, apparently. I guess you don't have to beat anyone else after the nomination. Just pass go and collect the presidency.

[timberx]

Looking at the number of delegates, I must say, the party's system does seem quite a bit rigged. Almost an equal number of "simple" delegates support each, but superdelegates almost unanimously support Hillary, which is the main reason she leads with such a huge advantage.

Should superdelegates even exist? Something is broken here.

Do we really have to pull out that collegehumor video again?

[Noradin]

Looking at the number of delegates, I must say, the party's system does seem quite a bit rigged. Almost an equal number of "simple" delegates support each, but superdelegates almost unanimously support Hillary, which is the main reason she leads with such a huge advantage.

Should superdelegates even exist? Something is broken here.

"Something"? I'd say the whole system is, including the "right to lie about everything political".

[announced]

I like how you can somehow guarantee an election victory for a person from 8 years ago, apparently. I guess you don't have to beat anyone else after the nomination. Just pass go and collect the presidency.

well, besides a transgender homosexual muslim democratic candidate, a woman president would be a first. We already had a black man in charge twice, but the DNC thinks its time for a woman.
there really werent any good democratic candidates since Obama besides Clinton.. kinda hard to pick a communist.. sorry socialist over her.

i like how Bernies having a Trump moment not like it'll help anything.

[Bushtuckrman]

well, besides a transgender homosexual muslim democratic candidate, a woman president would be a first. We already had a black man in charge twice, but the DNC thinks its time for a woman.
there really werent any good democratic candidates since Obama besides Clinton.. kinda hard to pick a communist.. sorry socialist over her.

i like how Bernies trumping away not like it'll help anything.

It's not that the DNC thinks it is time for a woman, it is because its Hillary Clinton.


How do Bernie supporters feel about Trump doing in 1 month what Bernie couldn't do this entire time and with multiple debates? His biggest mistake imo was saying in a debate "The American people are sick of hearing about your damn emails!". No the American people and many people including me across the world are not sick of hearing about her email issue and I for one would like justice for my mate from fark and eve online being killed in the Benghazi attacks. I was almost completely convinced from there that Bernie is just a Hillary plant at least in the same thought that people used to think Trump was a Hillary plant. Hell if you read some of Hillary's tweets you would think she is a Trump plant. Tweeted that Trump says men and women should be paid the same for the same amount of work in a job and tweeted that he is great lol.

[May90]

"Something"? I'd say the whole system is, including the "right to lie about everything political".

I think the election system itself is okay. I just don't quite understand the point of primaries, if they decide in advance anyway what candidate they want to win. In this case, superdelegates almost unanimously voted for Hillary - it is clear that the party wants her as their candidate. Then what is the point of this whole spectacle? Just say, "Hillary is our candidate", and let Sanders run as independent, if he so desires - why make primaries the desired outcome of which they have already determined?

Hilariously, Republican primaries seem to have made more sense, since there actually the candidate initially not supported by the party won. The debates were a joke, but the outcome wasn't predetermined. Democratic debates, on the other hand, were hot, it was fun to watch - but, again, what is their point, if the winner has been decided in advance?

[Dextroden]

I think the election system itself is okay. I just don't quite understand the point of primaries, if they decide in advance anyway what candidate they want to win. In this case, superdelegates almost unanimously voted for Hillary - it is clear that the party wants her as their candidate. Then what is the point of this whole spectacle? Just say, "Hillary is our candidate", and let Sanders run as independent, if he so desires - why make primaries the desired outcome of which they have already determined?

Hilariously, Republican primaries seem to have made more sense, since there actually the candidate initially not supported by the party won. The debates were a joke, but the outcome wasn't predetermined. Democratic debates, on the other hand, were hot, it was fun to watch - but, again, what is their point, if the winner has been decided in advance?

I really like all this evidence I'm seeing of how the system is rigged. The same system Obama used to win. So, I guess your boy Obeezy is a big fat cheat and a phony, then.

[Mehrunes]

Leave it to Fox News Feed Squad to even cheer for Sanders if it can be used to attack Hillary for the emails crap.

[May90]

I really like all this evidence I'm seeing of how the system is rigged. The same system Obama used to win. So, I guess your boy Obeezy is a big fat cheat and a phony, then.

Not sure you even attempted to understand my point...

[Dextroden]

Not sure you even attempted to understand my point...

What, you complaining about superdelegates?

[Mehrunes]

Looking at the number of delegates, I must say, the party's system does seem quite a bit rigged. Almost an equal number of "simple" delegates support each, but superdelegates almost unanimously support Hillary, which is the main reason she leads with such a huge advantage.

Should superdelegates even exist? Something is broken here.

They are private entities, they have safeguards for choosing who they really want. Democrats are just not even hiding it. And while it does suck in the light of primaries, the real question is why are there primaries in the first place? Having the people vote for the party's candidate to run in the actual elections is certainly not the norm. In most countries the political parties do it themselves because it's their internal issue. And to focus the campaign on the actual election. Perhaps it's to make the election cycle less boring in a two party state, but considering that the very same two party system turns the elections proper into US vs THEM shitshow, it kinda undermines the effect. While I suppose the primaries make more people involved, at the same time it makes them less enthusiastic for the US vs THEM shitshow stage if their preferred candidate lost.

And the system is broken on the actual election front already anyway. Electoral system makes no sense. Especially since in like half the states the electors aren't even obliged to vote for who the people voted for. The winner takes all part is also not representative at all. It's only natural that primaries are shaped in a way to find more brokenness. The system not being the same for the whole country is the prime example. Some states have primaries, some have caucuses and Washington has both (with one not counting anyway). Because that makes all the sense.

[announced]

It's not that the DNC thinks it is time for a woman, it is because its Hillary Clinton.


How do Bernie supporters feel about Trump doing in 1 month what Bernie couldn't do this entire time and with multiple debates? His biggest mistake imo was saying in a debate "The American people are sick of hearing about your damn emails!". No the American people and many people including me across the world are not sick of hearing about her email issue and I for one would like justice for my mate from fark and eve online being killed in the Benghazi attacks. I was almost completely convinced from there that Bernie is just a Hillary plant at least in the same thought that people used to think Trump was a Hillary plant. Hell if you read some of Hillary's tweets you would think she is a Trump plant. Tweeted that Trump says men and women should be paid the same for the same amount of work in a job and tweeted that he is great lol.

agree I feel like Bernie was just trying to stick up for Hillary way too much, it made no sense at all to gloss over something potentially criminal like it never happened. He came off like a puppet early on, or just some Hillary Sympathizer. Also there's no accountability for any of her actions, Benghazi, the emails, whatever else she screwed up. and these super delegates are a joke, its why i prefer the republican system. the debates are funnier and it doesnt seem as rigged.

[Dextroden]

agree I feel like Bernie was just trying to stick up for Hillary way too much, it made no sense at all to gloss over something potentially criminal like it never happened. He came off like a puppet early on, or just some Hillary Sympathizer. Also there's no accountability for any of her actions, Benghazi, the emails, whatever else she screwed up. and these super delegates are a joke, its why i prefer the republican system. the debates are funnier and it doesnt seem as rigged.

Exceptthe part where people were calling the Republican Primaries fixed because Trump was put in front of a lot of them.

Welcome to politics. If you lost, it's because someone cheated.