This is what passes for education in America.

[TrumpIsPresident]

Dumb stuff taken too far, but complaining about alternative viewpoints is pretty dumb too.

Personally I think they're a bunch of loonies and there is /some/ truth to how white people are priviledged relatively compared to others, not generally or on a case by case basis, but that kind of reasoning roots deeply into communistic philosophy, and I don't see any practical point or use in that.

Racism has become valid major and being racist has become a valid teaching tool.

#crashnburn

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SJWs being the worst people again, and still lacking the self-awareness to see it

[Ealyssa]

It is not a problem of freedom of speech, it is a problem of academic rigor. If you can't prove that what you say is true then it should not be said in an academia.

"Ok guys we are closing experimental physics departement now. Someone on the internets expect us to be 100% right with every single theory we may test. Sorry."

[Deletedaccount1]

I don't understand where this stuff comes from. Haven't race relations been steadily improving now for decades? Where has this huge social justice wave come from?

[Auxora]

Yeah you kind of lost me at the community college part. Keep in mind just about anyone off the street can teach at a community college. Many working or retired folks do it on the side. The pay isn't much, usually just a few hundred dollars for a semester. But for people that like having a captive audience or (in more normal classes) giving back to students it's great. So that's why I wouldn't jump from this session or class or w/e it is at a small community college, to assuming as the OP's title does that it's reflective of the US educational system.

There definitely are radical left or right leaning professors at many universities globally though, who will often try to impress their personal positions on students in their classes. I have no doubts that happens and I've seen that myself in both left and right leaning ways when I was attending a large university.

[Fencers]

They're discussing a social topic at college. That's what people do. Not personally liking the perspective of that topic does not invalidate their discussion.

Also, why is there nation bashing part of the title here; are there no other places on Earth where social issues are discussed in a variety of perspectives at college?

This is a biased, myopic presentation that is (unsurprisingly) poorly worded.

[Spectral]

Universities are still mostly fine when it comes to subjects that have actual academic rigor. No one's getting by in chemistry, history, or mathematics by shouting about racism. Yes, there's an awful infestation of grifters that raise costs by being professors of Grievance Studies and nonsense positions like Chief Diversity Officer, but these don't really effect the core of the education much.

We should probably get around to stamping out these grifters or at least pushing back on increased funding and enrollment until universities trim this useless fat, but I wouldn't say that the trash shown in the OP's video is representative of the majority of education.

[May90]

I don't understand where this stuff comes from. Haven't race relations been steadily improving now for decades? Where has this huge social justice wave come from?

I suppose these are just people that want easy money. They get paid for talks such as this, because these talks gain a lot of attention: they are provocative, nasty, silly... It is much easier to do things like this without putting in much effort, than to, say, get through a rigorous education in actual social sciences and then work on serious research.

[Spectral]

I don't understand where this stuff comes from. Haven't race relations been steadily improving now for decades? Where has this huge social justice wave come from?

They were. Then, a wave of idiotic grievance politics in the last couple years driven by media narratives and grifters looking for sinecures made this all noticeably worse. Gallup documents the trend here, the NYT does here.

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Also, why is there nation bashing part of the title here; are there no other places on Earth where social issues are discussed in a variety of perspectives at college?

We don't have "discussions" here in Finland at college or Universities. We just have teachers who teach curriculum that's based on facts and science.

Might be one of the reasons we're doing so damn good in education globally.

[Spectral]

We don't have "discussions" here in Finland at college or Universities. We just have teachers who teach curriculum that's based on facts and science.

Might be one of the reasons we're doing so damn good in education globally.

There's one Finnish university in the top 100 in the world and it's 76th (or 96th if you prefer QS methodology). About half of American states have flagship public universities ranked above this. If Finland had a single institution on par with strong American state flagships like UW-Madison, UC-Berkely, and UNC-Chapel Hill, I'd be a bit more impressed with the Finnish model of higher education. As it is, Finnish research and academia isn't remotely on par with American counterparts.

If we bring in private schools like the Ivies and Stanford, this claim starts to seem even sillier.

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Gonna be so fun in a few years when whites are a minority in USA. The rivers of tears they will cry.

[Spectral]

Gonna be so fun in a few years when whites are a minority in USA. The rivers of tears they will cry.

It'll be interesting to see what excuses are made for underperformance by some non-white groups when they can't point to minority status. Will the evils of white oppression mind bullets still be the cause?

[apples]

There's one Finnish university in the top 100 in the world and it's 76th (or 96th if you prefer QS methodology). About half of American states have flagship public universities ranked above this. If Finland had a single institution on par with strong American state flagships like UW-Madison, UC-Berkely, and UNC-Chapel Hill, I'd be a bit more impressed with the Finnish model of higher education. As it is, Finnish research and academia isn't remotely on par with American counterparts.

If we bring in private schools like the Ivies and Stanford, this claim starts to seem even sillier.

dam son

at least take a fool out to dinner before you fuck him

[Puupi]

There's one Finnish university in the top 100 in the world and it's 76th (or 96th if you prefer QS methodology). About half of American states have flagship public universities ranked above this. If Finland had a single institution on par with strong American state flagships like UW-Madison, UC-Berkely, and UNC-Chapel Hill, I'd be a bit more impressed with the Finnish model of higher education. As it is, Finnish research and academia isn't remotely on par with American counterparts.

If we bring in private schools like the Ivies and Stanford, this claim starts to seem even sillier.

Education =/= research =/= university rankings

By spewing that kind of stuff you really seem to have no idea what you are talking about.

OT: USA is a very weird country. Your public discussion is on its own level in absurdity compared to any other western country (okay, Sweden comes as a close second).

[zorkuus]

Gonna be so fun in a few years when whites are a minority in USA. The rivers of tears they will cry.

I think you're all going to cry when the "minorities" and feminists drag down education with their stupid bs that should have no place in a school.

[apples]

Education =/= research =/= university rankings

By spewing that kind of stuff you really seem to have no idea what you are talking about.

OT: USA is a very weird country. Your public discussion is on its own level in absurdity compared to any other western country (okay, Sweden comes as a close second).

http://www.topuniversities.com/qs-st...rs-methodology seems like its a little more in depth than youd like to believe

but naw youre probably right, we should just use our feelings to rank things.

[Puupi]

http://www.topuniversities.com/qs-st...rs-methodology seems like its a little more in depth than youd like to believe

but naw youre probably right, we should just use our feelings to rank things.

Yeah, click the "teaching" tab and sort the list. See? *poof*, all American universities disappeared from the list.

[Spectral]

Education =/= research =/= university rankings

By spewing that kind of stuff you really seem to have no idea what you are talking about.

OT: USA is a very weird country. Your public discussion is on its own level in absurdity compared to any other western country (okay, Sweden comes as a close second).

If someone's making claims like this:

We don't have "discussions" here in Finland at college or Universities. We just have teachers who teach curriculum that's based on facts and science.

one would think this should translate to impressive research, what with all those facts and science. This, obviously, is not what we find.

I suppose we should replace all objective systems with the Feels Over Reals system in which U Helsinki is way better than Stanford though?

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Sue me.